Michael135

I listened again to his entry after listening to what the muted trumpets sounded like, and it definitely doesn't sound muted.   The marcato trumpet samples in SO have a very "fuzzy" sound to them, and I mistook them for muted trumpets at first. 

Michael135


I'm a woodwind player, what did you expect? :p

I'm the guy that no one ever seems to hear, but is always super busy hanging on for dear life through all those HORRIBLE runs composers (including my self) always think sound so nice.  In other words, I don't really pay much attention to what ever the heck the trumpets are doing.  I usually have other things on my mind, such as trying to get my poor fingers to move faster. ;)

I don't get to really hear muted trumpets all that often, and when I do, they're usually mixed in with non muted ones, so it's not all that obvious.

Bristol_Jonesey

Michael135



I'm glad you liked my track.  I spent a lot of time on it, and I'm glad that others are actually able to hear all the love and care I put into it.  I was very worried that people wouldn't even notice. lol 

I was worried too - and I was right!!!!!

rbowser

Michael135


I'm a woodwind player, what did you expect? :p

I'm the guy that no one ever seems to hear, but is always super busy hanging on for dear life through all those HORRIBLE runs composers (including my self) always think sound so nice.  In other words, I don't really pay much attention to what ever the heck the trumpets are doing.  I usually have other things on my mind, such as trying to get my poor fingers to move faster. ;)

I don't get to really hear muted trumpets all that often, and when I do, they're usually mixed in with non muted ones, so it's not all that obvious.

Seek out "Aura" - concept jazz album featuring Miles Davis.  Muted trumpet supreme.

Randy B.

Bristol_Jonesey

Michael135



I'm glad you liked my track.  I spent a lot of time on it, and I'm glad that others are actually able to hear all the love and care I put into it.  I was very worried that people wouldn't even notice. lol 

I was worried too - and I was right!!!!!

rbowser

Bristol_Jonesey

Michael135



I'm glad you liked my track.  I spent a lot of time on it, and I'm glad that others are actually able to hear all the love and care I put into it.  I was very worried that people wouldn't even notice. lol 

I was worried too - and I was right!!!!!

Colin "Bristol Jonesey" - I certainly noticed your entry #53, and I'm sure other people did too.  It's a very good version.  You should feel good about the work you did.

Randy B.

Matt


I guess what I don't get is, even if there's a ton of bass parts in the MIDI file, aren't they there for a reason?  And wouldn't you want to hear those frequencies in the samples so you know what the samples sound like?

What I meant by using other techinques to make the MP3 sound better is that, once it became a contest, you may or may not have people that just want to win, and don't care about being true to the sample library. For example, maybe the strings sound a bit weak, so they pull in a sample from another library and softly layer it underneath to sweeten the patch, which would be against the guidelines of the contest but would possibly make their overall MP3 sound better and giving them a better chance to win. I'm not saying anyone did this or accusing anyone of doing this, just mentioning that it's a possibility. The only reason I bring that up is just because there's a lot of grey area... the EQ-ing of the samples being one of them. And the point I was (poorly) trying to make is that perhaps once it became a contest, it became more about production and less about featuring the sample library. I guess what I don't get is, even if there's a ton of bass parts in the MIDI file, aren't they there for a reason? And wouldn't you want to hear those frequencies in the samples so you know what the samples sound like?

Karyn


Hi Randy and Dave,  I know you don't want to publish actual vote counts and such like,  but considering the orriginal intention of the "contest",  ie, compairing the relative sounds/abilities of competing orchestra libraries, then could you maybe publish a league table of the results by Library?

This would at least tell us which libs we prefered in general, which to my mind was the whole point.

I can see from the list of winners that EW was popular, but how popular?  did it get a handfull of first place votes or did it have a solid second/third place from every voter that pushed it up the rankings?

We don't realy even need to know approx voting figures for each lib,  just their relative popularity.

No, they really aren't there for a reason, and no I don't want to hear all that in the mix - it was a problem with a number of entries in this contest in fact, the bottom-heavy dull sound some had- Because this isn't an authentic scoring of the music.  It was put together by an amateur by ear.  He has a bass drum rumbling along with the tympani for instance - that shouldn't be there, and it introduced a pile up in the bass frequencies. 

You're assuming too much about the level of expertise to be found in this source MIDI file.  It was good enough for our purposes, and its flaws made for interesting challenges actually - but the main point was that at least everyone was using the same imperfect source data.

Michael135


Something tells me that I may have to wait a while to claim mine.