what about pro tools or logic pro or ableton live?
 

I recently purchased a Presonus Studio 192 audio interface
It came with a lite version of Studio One 3
The integration with the hardware seems very cool.
 
My thought was to track live into Studio One and then transfer the tracks into my DAW of choice for the past 17 years, SONAR
Now it looks like I'll be upgrading to Studio One 3 Professional.
 
I was about to cancel my subscription to Groove 3
I guess I have some instructional videos to start watching now. 
 
I realize that SONAR will continue to work , but it's like working in a relationship with a woman that has told you she's definitely going to leave. 
 
Time to move on.
 

Rather than panic and jump ship, would we not be better off staying as a collective force and market potential.
This might induce an investment or collaboration from other developers.
 I don't know how that would work in practice but would need a high profile cakewalk representative to head and manage.
Any other ideas?
Shame to let the Titanic of music production sink🚾

batsbrew

bitflipper
You all seem to be working from the assumption that SONAR is going to stop working on Friday. It won't.

i am four weeks from pulling the trigger on a brand new PC for recording.
 
do i put a dead end DAW on it?
 
or buy the latest version of sonar and do what i've done for the last almost 10 years? (i use sonar 6 professional on a win xp system, and it works just fine.)
 

Same here.  Just weeks away from a new PC and was really hoping to finally get Sonar...I'm using Home Studio 2 from like, 2002 or something, running on Windows XP.  
 
I was hoping to keep this PC offline, always an isolated recording box, so I could load Sonar without fear and just let it work for 10 years or so.  But...that just seems stupid...

https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/presonus-studio-one-3-professional
 
if you're logged in you'll see it come in under 200 shekels. 
 
I'm not going to jump on that as I'm not quite that trigger-happy but I do have an old version of Artist which I can update to Artist 3 for a whisker over 20 beans in the same sale, that seems like a reasonable move just for insurance purposes. I never spent much time with it but I gather some people like it a lot so good to keep a foot in the door, I can play around with it and see if we get along. They have fairly regular sales so moving up to the flagship is always an option. 
 
Ableton looks to be on solid ground for the moment, as mentioned elsewhere I was at their Loop conference last weekend here in Berlin (I have some friends in the company) and it was great, I saw and heard some very cool things, there are a lot of creative people in the world and that community is a pretty good example. I'm keeping a foot in the door there as well. The upcoming version (Live 10) looks pretty spiffy. 
 
I have also always had a soft spot for Reason and was already toying with upgrading from my old license (7) as there's a lot of new stuff there at this point. It's a fun, creative environment, some great new instruments, Blocks are cool, the built-in time-stretching thing is kind of wild. Would miss many things about Sonar but there are many other toys there to distract me from that, and with VST on board now... 
 
Reaper would be the only other one that would tempt me, again I've installed it and looked it over but never done any work in it (or bought a license). I gather it's pretty full-featured at this point. 
 
Plus, as others have said, Sonar ain't dead yet, it still works here. But for how long? For... how... long? (Sorry, just felt like channeling William Shatner was the thing to do there)
 
 

Should I be taking all my Sonar bundles and converting them to something else that Cubase can read?
Is Cubase likely to issue the same notice?

Just some questions.

aidanodr
Interesting that no one has mentioned ABLETON yet :D

I use Live to sketch out ideas in the session view, but I then develop it Sonar. The next couple songs I do I'll try the whole thing in Live.

thornton
will Harrison accept waves plugin is it a full daw
 

If you are planning on trying to use Mixbus as a fully fledged DAW, I would STRONGLY advise you first to demo the product. It can be done of course, but there is a reason most people only use it for mixing stems etc created in another product.

dorism
I use Cubase. It is the most feature rich DAW on the market. Steinberg have introduced so many incredible features in the last few years, its not just a DAW but a composition tool (e.g. Chord tracks). it's miles ahead of the competition I think. Studio One is a beautiful, highly optimised stable DAW - which has some brilliant, and innovative features but lacks the depth of Cubase. 

Could be, but I don't do Dongles....
 
Walt

raisindot
The problem is, if you switch to something else, what happens to all the legacy projects you created in Sonar? Can any of these other programs convert them? 

Not convert them but you could pull the audio into another daw. I did that with several Sonar 8 Producer sessions when I moved over to ProTools and Digital Performer. As long as it's all audio and not dependent on plugs specific to Sonar the audio will play just fine.

bitflipper
You all seem to be working from the assumption that SONAR is going to stop working on Friday. It won't.

I think it's more case of "jump now" or "jump later" and people like certainty (besides the obvious things) .. I'm still using camel audio alchemy and other things like kore 2..
 
also the whole thing of learning something again, or the ways to do stuff that is slightly different.
 
I still use my commodore 64 and apple ii.. both still have new software even in 2017 ;-)
 
think how many bits of hardware you got rid of, due to drivers.. because the makers would rather you get a new product.
 
there will be things 3rd party, that "break" code that won't be fixed.
 

Thanks.   Doesn't support external bank change though.  As much as I hate the dongle,  the Midi implementation of Cubase is legendary. 

Rimshot
 No need to panik now but just think about at least getting your tracks exported sometime soon so that whatever new DAW you go with, you will be ready to import that data. 
 

 
It would be so easy if you could just open a .BUN file in something else...hundreds of them over the years is a lot of .wav exporting

Nobody has mentioned it yet and a bit out of left-field but Waveform by Tracktion looks nice. I do a mix of MIDI/virtual instruments, wav and REX loops, and live recording. It looks like it's worth a trial download. Current prices are $99-$200 depending on how many extras you get. Maybe I'm easily impressed but the intro video was impressive.


 
 

Has anyone considered this daw, http://motu.com/products/software/dp
I don't know it, but I'm going to check out
the demo... I have Mixbus and Cubase 9 Elements,
but they just don't totally cut it for me
like Sonar did.