paul jenkins
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:38:44
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ok cool..ill check that out
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:42:33
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pwalpwal
there's only a small number of the plugs bundled with sonar that won't work in other daws, someone posted a checklist/screenshot in another thread already
I really like my Pro Channel functionality in SPLAT ...
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:48:44
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Definitely try Studio One again. Again, love and respect to Cakewalk and Sonar, but I was, and still am, amazed at how much better I like Studio One, in almost every way.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:50:00
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pwalpwal
i moved to studio one, no regrets
Same here. I love it. Workflow is crazy fast and easy.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:51:43
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joeb1cannoli
I recently purchased a Presonus Studio 192 audio interface
It came with a lite version of Studio One 3
The integration with the hardware seems very cool.
My thought was to track live into Studio One and then transfer the tracks into my DAW of choice for the past 17 years, SONAR
Now it looks like I'll be upgrading to Studio One 3 Professional.
I was about to cancel my subscription to Groove 3
I guess I have some instructional videos to start watching now.
I realize that SONAR will continue to work , but it's like working in a relationship with a woman that has told you she's definitely going to leave.
Time to move on.
I've been on Studio One since the Spring and I've only opened Sonar to export projects. I really like S1; just wish I had not done the lifetime updates deal with Cakewalk.
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abacab
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:53:44
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Well after all these years, Sonar 8.5 still runs, and it has not been developed since X1 was released. I would expect that Platinum will continue to run for many more years, so no rush to learn another DAW, until changes in Windows someday make that a necessity. Of course we will still need a forum where Craig can tell us how to work around any bugs we encounter! 
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:54:29
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doncolga
pwalpwal
i moved to studio one, no regrets
Same here. I love it. Workflow is crazy fast and easy.
Totally agree, been with S13 Pro since its release and never looked back.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:55:53
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dorism
I use Cubase. It is the most feature rich DAW on the market. Steinberg have introduced so many incredible features in the last few years, its not just a DAW but a composition tool (e.g. Chord tracks). it's miles ahead of the competition I think. Studio One is a beautiful, highly optimised stable DAW - which has some brilliant, and innovative features but lacks the depth of Cubase.
Agreed. I'm surprised there are so many comments about folks thinking of Studio One as the first option, and not so many (yet) regarding how strong Cubase is. I wasn't planning to change from Sonar, but now that change is upon us, Cubase really appears to be the stronger offering of what's available.
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Roo Stercogburn
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 13:59:51
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Gibson's gift to other companies.
Black Friday in 2 days: I wonder which DAW-maker will step up for those leaving the ship. A good deal could prompt some sooner rather than later.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:01:37
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So one thing to consider with all the transitioning to alternate DAWS.... besides features (I mean really, you can make music in ANY of them these days, it's come a long way from the old days). Which COMPANY is the most stable and likely to support their customers? Who has the best prices, updates, authorization, forums etc? Who is "owned" by who, etc - Steinberg?
- Personus?
- REAPER?
- ProTools (LOL! I kill myself...)
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:06:22
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abacab
I would expect that Platinum will continue to run for many more years, so no rush to learn another DAW, until changes in Windows someday make that a necessity.
i think that time will come in less than one year, if recent events are considered the new norm
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:07:24
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jerry@macwood.com
what about pro tools or logic pro or ableton live?
PT is what I went to after leaving Sonar. A bit of a steep learning curve and not everything you know in Sonar translates over but may well be worth it. Check out Avid.com and the DUC which is the PT forum of choice. Be aware PT uses an iLok dongle.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:08:22
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There are thousands of Studio One tutorials on YouTube. I watch two last night after struggling all day with S1 3.5 blind and I think it is a very interesting DAW. I liked these guys alot: Studio One Expert https://www.youtube.com/c...K0pITrfzEC36x6ttyaXUXA
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:16:43
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Michayl Asaph
Has anyone considered this daw, http://motu.com/products/software/dp
I don't know it, but I'm going to check out
the demo... I have Mixbus and Cubase 9 Elements,
but they just don't totally cut it for me
like Sonar did.
Digital Performer is my secondary daw after ProTools. DP is a bit like Sonar was back in the day before Sonar got true instruments tracks. The instrument tracks in DP only host the vi and that's it. DP does not use an iLok. There is only one version of the program - no 'lite' version. 30 day fully functional free demo. The user community over at Motunation.com (which is not affiliated with MOTU) is not very friendly especially for newbies; if you ask a question that even smacks of not having read the manual you'll get roasted like you wouldn't believe. The only other forum is Gearslutz; there is a Facebook group for DP but I don't do FB. Couple all this with the fact there is precious little in the way of third party learning support - if that's important to you then take that into account as well. Some people get on well with DP and some don't. I only got it as a backup to PT when Avid started with subscription models for PT12.
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paul jenkins
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:26:20
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sure.....ivevjust spent "ALL", my money on sonar.........I hope these arseholes offer some type of free ****in offer for us who spent "all" our money in sonar.....to get a substitute daw
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:27:22
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2017/11/22 14:39:28
Hi all,
have any of you considered n-Track Studio 8 as an alternative to Sonar? We've been around for 20 years and now the app runs on all platforms (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android). If my memory serves me right n-Track had multitrack audio capability before Cakewalk added it around '96. Since we heard the sad news we've decided to offer a crossgrade from Cakewalk to n-Track for only $59 (50% the regular price of the EX edition is $119, more than our current 40% black friday sale that ends monday). The purchase include a free upgrade to v9 which will be released within the end of the year.
You can check out the demo of n-Track at
The crossgrade coupon is SONAR2NTRACK (coupon goes into the lower left of the purchase page).
Sorry for the shameless plug, however I thought n-Track should be mentioned in the list of possible alternate DAWs. Let me know if you have any comments on the app!
Cheers,
Flavio Antonioli
n-Track founder.
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Starise
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:32:56
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Cubase is a really complicated program to learn. I seriously doubt most will simply pick it up and use it without doing some extensive homework. If you don't mind the extremely steep learning curve, then Cubase might be your choice.
I haven't seriously considered Reaper. My first experiences with it weren't good ones. It can be made to work once you get it figured out.Probably easier than Cubase to learn overall. Studio One gets my vote for the easiest, fastest way to get up and recording. The program lets you learn the surface details and get going while you learn the deeper functions later on. Much Like Sonar in that regard.
Magix has a good program at a very low price point, but I'm not sure if it accepts vst's. The included content is pretty goo though.
Noone has mentioned Bitwig. That one seems to be catching on, though I haven't tried it.
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paul jenkins
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:34:05
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:39:46
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exactly..sonar was much simpler and easier to learn than "all" the other software..the people behind this sonar termination are absolutely a pack of arseholes!!!
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:39:50
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I took a 30 day demo of Cubase 9 earlier this year. It has a great MIDI implementation, and some cool composition tools like the arranger track and chord track. If you are mostly into MIDI and/or music composition, this would probably make a great alternative to Sonar. I was primarily interested in Cubase for some new creative tools. But I held off because it seemed like too much overlap with Sonar's DAW features. Didn't really need a a second full blown DAW... well until now, that is, LOL! If you have a Groove3 pass, there are a lot of videos covering Cubase over there. If it looks interesting, download the fully functional 30-day trial of Cubase and take it for a drive. I have also tried the free version of Studio One 3 Prime, and it's UI seems easy to work with. I think it would work very well if you mostly record and edit audio. Don't have an opinion on the MIDI usage there, because you can only use VST plugins with the pro version.
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paul jenkins
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:40:34
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and that's pointed at gibson
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:43:18
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blah blah blah..i loved the simplicity of sonar, I don't have 40 hours a day to "learn new things"every week....other programs..blah blah blah.......Gibson can go **** em remselves
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:50:51
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pwalpwal
abacab
I would expect that Platinum will continue to run for many more years, so no rush to learn another DAW, until changes in Windows someday make that a necessity.
i think that time will come in less than one year, if recent events are considered the new norm
You do realize that you can unplug the network to avoid all updates, and the computer will continue to run as is. Nobody is forcing you to run updates if you really don't want them! 
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 14:56:14
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lawajava
Agreed. I'm surprised there are so many comments about folks thinking of Studio One as the first option,
probably to do with folks' requirements from a daw, and for me the lack of dongle shenanigans is also a thing
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 15:00:38
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/22 15:01:54
paul jenkins
blah blah blah..i loved the simplicity of sonar, I don't have 40 hours a day to "learn new things"every week....other programs..blah blah blah.......Gibson can go **** em remselves
i'm not sure if that's satire or not, but if not give studio one a serious try, there's almost no learning curve if you've used other daws also, you can swear effectively by introducing f u c k i n g spaces y o u b a s t a r d
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 15:02:52
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abacab
Well after all these years, Sonar 8.5 still runs, and it has not been developed since X1 was released.
I would expect that Platinum will continue to run for many more years, so no rush to learn another DAW, until changes in Windows someday make that a necessity.
Of course we will still need a forum where Craig can tell us how to work around any bugs we encounter!
I don't know. I like joeb1cannoli's comment....."like being with a woman who's already said she's going to leave." I'm looking at other DAWs, S1 Pro is looking like a contender. There are a few to choose from, just want to make a wise decision. Just feeling sad and pi$sed.
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Re: Relevant Question now - alternate DAWs?
2017/11/22 15:04:40
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pwalpwal
you can swear effectively by introducing f u c k i n g spaces y o u b a s t a r d
I almost spit coffee through my nose when I read that line!!! Thanks for the chuckle, it brightened my day, LOL!!!
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2017/11/22 15:07:03
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jackn2mpu
jerry@macwood.com
what about pro tools or logic pro or ableton live?
PT is what I went to after leaving Sonar. A bit of a steep learning curve and not everything you know in Sonar translates over but may well be worth it. Check out Avid.com and the DUC which is the PT forum of choice. Be aware PT uses an iLok dongle.
Which PT if I may ask? I was there this morning looking at PT 12 I believe. I hate to spend money but need to get something. *I really don't want to spend extra money now...second grandchild is on the way!!! 😊
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2017/11/22 15:07:57
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abacab
pwalpwal
you can swear effectively by introducing f u c k i n g spaces y o u b a s t a r d
I almost spit coffee through my nose when I read that line!!!
Thanks for the chuckle, it brightened my day, LOL!!!
I missed this. Hilarious!!
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