SONAR - Feature Request LIST

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/01/15 17:37:09 (permalink)
Please more film scoring features before I finally have to jump ship to Digital Performer.

- Hit point handling and calculation (note, fit to time doesn't work properly)

- Frame by frame control of the NOW time. Need to be able to use one of many different jog shuttle controls to move one SMPTE frame at a time through the project, advancing the video also.

- Streamer, punch and click visual video overlays.

- Be able to have multiple cues in one sonar project file, each one starting at its own 0:0:0:0 (and measure 1 too), but corresponding to a different section of the imported video file. Then be able to combine these cues into one longer end result...all within the same sonar project



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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/01/15 18:58:54 (permalink)
Last night I had a dream about a glorious day when ACT was implemented properly!!!

In that dream act was completely user definable. It was still cell oriented like now but you could tell it how many knobs, sliders, buttons you had. Then bam, all those cells would appear. You would still have to midi learn it to your preferred contols, but if you had a template that was say RemoteSL it would just change shape to have support for the 16 knobs, 8 sliders, 30+ buttons. Then with the flick of a mouse I could call up the BCR2000 template and BOOM, I would have 32x2 cells for my pushbutton rotaries, 24 cells for regular rotaries, and 16 cells for my buttons!

And then to make this whole dream complete, there would be a little button that would say "assignable parameters". I could click it and a drop down menu or sub screen would open and I would be able to drag and drop controllable parameters into cells. I mean how SWEET would that be. No more twiddle the param, twiddle the know, midi learn, act learn ... etc .. etc. Just windows drag and drop. I could configure every plug in my system in minutes not eternities!!! I mean we've all used a cell-style drum sampler, it would be that simple!!!

So In summary:
1.) User definable cell grid - which is saved with preset (i.e. my BCR and RemoteSL aren't growing knobs so it only needs to be configured once)
2.) drag and drop parameters into cells from "controllable parameter" sub menu/window.

oh and.. some oldies
3.) full-duplex!!!
4.) relative midi control - no jerking (or soft-takeover if that is too complicated)




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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/01/17 09:03:25 (permalink)
Probably been asked for a thousand times already but here's another:

1 Please please please let's have a true stereo sidechain compressor and easy routing options. Even Reason has a quality stereo sidechain compressor in it. Gating doesn't cover evry use and it is shocking that SONAR does not have this capability/

2 Please please please allow a single MIDI track to control MULTIPLE soft synths without having to clone the MIDI track.


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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/01/17 14:21:43 (permalink)
I just transfered from cubase to Sonar6, for the new 64bit audio Engine. It does sound great. But after several days using,

I feel at lost sometimes when many things
changed and I cann't do it in the usual same way which I get used to. In cubase , there are many useful and practical little

tools designed for editing.

I hope that Sonar will have these new features in the future version:

New feautures request :

1.A must have function---- show the note name of the midi event in the piano view window. In this way it is more easy to recognize and edit the chord.

2.Add a Parabola draw tool in the Piano view window. It can save us lots of time when editting controllers such as experssion

and pitchbend envet .Very very important and useful.


3.In the Piano view window and drum editor window, adustting different layer of velocity when serveral notes overlap

vertically should be possible, insted of using notes property window. In the meantime, mouse wheel can increase/decrease

selected notes velocity easily.



4.Auto quantize function when recording midi notes, the notes we record are automatically quantized according to a quantize

settings.


5. Add a Quantize Ends Command in the Quantize menu, by whicn we can quantize selected notes' endtime.

6.Add a input midi property function in the Piano view window , by whicn we can record notes property like pitch and velocity

through midi keyboard to selected notes , leaving the exact timing unchanged.


7.Open a vsti or dxi instrument interface directly in the Piano view would be very convenient if Possible.



8.Please show the program change event in the Controller Lane. In that case I can edit this

event . For example, when I use a Kontakt 2 strings bank, in the first note I use program

2--- violins p-f short instrument, in the next note I use program 11 -- Violins short

instrumet, then in the next phase I use program 12 --Fast Run Down instrument, and so on.

But in sonar, the program change event doen't show in the controller lane, it's very hard

to do such thing.


9. Please add a mute tool in the piano window . using this tool we can mute the note here instead of go back to the project window to
mute the event of track.

10. Please add a split and a glue tools in the piano window by which we can split notes and glue notes together.

11.External effect can be use as a plugin .

12.A tape machine style record monitoring mode would be very pratical and useful.

Make Sonar the best !! Thank you !!!
post edited by Jonathan1977 - 2007/01/18 08:21:20
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/01/17 14:42:09 (permalink)
- Most of Sonar's last improvements is in audio. A lot of midi recording features are left behind (I feel Sonar 4 would need to definitely step up the game here in this department). Sonar's midi recording features basically haven't changed.


Yes, indeed. Speaking of the midi operation function. Sonar is behind Cubase several years..


What Cubase really bother me is in the piano window, we can not see the marker . Thus I can not add a marker in it and mark the chord symbol. And we can not select different track in the piano window, every time I must go back to the project window and select another track. In addition, there is no a mute track button and a arm track button in the piano window. So I dicided to use sonar6. I hope Cakewalk can improve sonar's midi editting function. If you can do what I mention above, Sonar would be a perfect workstation for me....its sound quality is terribly great !!!
post edited by Jonathan1977 - 2007/01/17 15:35:43
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/01/17 17:08:39 (permalink)
The single most important MIDI feature in my opinion is to be able to hide muted clips in the piano roll.

The lack of this feature makes the use of track layers practically useless on MIDI tracks. With overlapping clips it is impossible to edit effectively in the piano roll.

The lack of this feature is the main reason I have no plans to upgrade to Sonar 6.
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/04 16:20:23 (permalink)
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/04 16:25:14 (permalink)
yes! : Please add a mute tool in the piano window . using this tool we can mute the note here !!!
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/06 10:12:15 (permalink)
Playlist function like Protools has.

similiar to the long awaited feature of different loops that can be set and then jump from on to another in different orders.
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/06 10:17:07 (permalink)
Anything in this thread would be an improvement over current MIDI manipulation.

Especially the point about throwing out the current piano roll and starting completely from scratch.
post edited by kvr_fandango - 2007/02/06 10:38:15
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/06 11:09:22 (permalink)
I tried posting to the FR link, but couldn't, so I'll post a couple of my ideas here. Keep in mind, I'm on SONAR 4, so these may already be in place.

IDEAS: A "clip board" and/or a split track view. Both of these requests are to allow for faster editing.

Clip Board:
The "clip board" feature takes the editing out of linear form. Let's say you have a track with some mistakes in it. You recorded several takes of the various fixes on another track. You slice up the fixes into replacement clips. Normally, you would have to find the location on the original track where you will do the fix, mark it, then scroll back to find the replacement clip you want to use, then drag it forward, or backward, to the spot you marked. It's awkward. The "clip board" is basically a separate window that you can drag the good "clips" to for temporary holding. So you find you best clip fixes, drag them to the "clip board" or window, then find the places to be fixed on your original track and drag from the "clip board."

Split Track View:
Alternately, the "split track view" would work similar to the split view in Microsoft Word and other programs, where you can split the view and, in one view, scroll to a certain point in the document, and, in the other view, scroll to another point in the same document. Except, in SONAR, the split view would allow you to scroll one view vertically AND horizontally to some point, and in the other view scroll vertically AND horizontally to a different point This would be another way to simplify the editing procedure described above.

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/06 12:55:46 (permalink)
Sends should insert oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. Send 1 should be at the top, then Send2, etc. Currently, inserting puts newly inserted send at the top. So the top down order is Send3, Send2, Send1.

WHY?
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/14 06:45:21 (permalink)
The features I want is:
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*Track view: Gridlines that follows higher and lower resolution when you zoom in or out a project. The look of the gridlines could be more pro with thinner lines
The function I want: When I zoom in in the track view I want the gridlines to automatically change from whole, half, triplets etc to 64 etc, but now the gridlines follows the setting in the audio snap menu. Its easier to know where I am in the track when I zoom in big time, when the gridlines are automatically adjusted! The more I zoom in, more gridlines shows. The more I zoom out, less gridlines shows. The point is that the track view aint gonna feel crowded with gridlines when the audio snap is set to 64 and the track view have zoomed out max, but are detailed when I want it to be without changing the audiosnap settings all the time.

*Console view: Getting the shift-click to work in console view to select all tracks that are between a selection to make a quick group. I want to select a track range without clicking on every track i want to add...A waste of time

*Console view: Option to show the Volume meters wider and longer then the standard are today.

*Console view: An options to see more than 4 plugins in the FXbin. At least 8 plugins would be nice...
*AFF import/export

*Console view: Make mixer snapshots of the settings in the console view that you can toggle between. So you can compare different mixes

*Track view: GUI inconsistency - An option to have the same 3d graphics in the track view as the graphics in the console view...

*Track View: GUI - There are a lot of wasted space above the inspector. It could be used to something useful...

*Track view: Move multiple track into a folder with mark ---> drag ---> drop!

*Clip FX: An option to hear the tale of an Fx when effects are applied to a clip.

*A filemanagement tool with a minimize audio file option (like cubase). This function deletes every part of a audio file that are not used in project. It cleans every project up in an easy way

*Plugins: An option to disable x-ray in the plug-in properties

*Plugin window: Bypass button in the plugins dialog bar

*Plugins: Include a "big fat samplerbaby"

*Plugins: Implement the right settings from the start for VST's that are known for the user to cause problems without changing settings. For example to "allow resizing window" for absynth etc...

*Audio hardware: Being able to change audiodrivers without restarting Sonar

*The aud.ini and other .ini files needs to be incorporated into an advanced option setting in Sonar. There is no other way...

*Import Project 5, Acid and Ableton live projects directly into Sonar. I'm just dreaming...

*Loop explorer: Improve stretching engine for audio files that are not acidized. The idea is to make every audiofile in sync with the project when its auditioned in the loop explorer

*Loop explorer: Midi groove clip preview in the Loop Explorer

*HELP: The manual for Sonar 7 has to be as deep as the manual for Sonar 5. The sonar 6 manual is just for getting you started. And its really just for newbies
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/02/26 15:49:12 (permalink)
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/03/16 20:47:36 (permalink)
Okay, I'm just gonna put this in here too so I have covered all the relevant threads:

I want an audio clip fade editor! Like in Cubase/Nuendo! When doing long fades the three predefined slopes don't cut it! I'll pay the upgrade price just for this (well maybe not but darn close)!

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/03/17 04:28:13 (permalink)
A real simple request......

When exporting audio, have an option to save the file with the name i choose and not the name i choose + MAIN-OUTS.wav (ie Chuck-MyCoolSong.wav gets saved as Chuck-MyCoolSong-Main-Outs.wav).



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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/03/17 07:31:32 (permalink)
Here's a few requests inspired by having recently used REAPER on a project, most of which I already wanted in SONAR anyway, but it is interesting to see that they are being implemented successfully elsewhere.


  • Ability to save files into a lossless compression like FLAC / Wavpack
  • I would love the CWP file format to be replaced with a text / XML based format. This would be brilliant for backing up, trouble-shooting, creating suplementary utilities, and retreiving plugin presets from other mixes
  • I would like my track volume envelopes to be independent of the overall track volume fader (is this possible already?)
  • The take management could be improved - track lanes are very cool, but it should be easier to create split points and cycle through the takes for each sub-section. Also, when collapsing back, the active selections should be shown at the front.
  • An option for the PRV just to work with the selected MIDI clip, not the entire track (like in Project5)


And some others, that perhaps I've asked for before, but it doesn't hurt to ask again...

  • Loop explorer to play MIDI / P5 patterns into a softsynth of choice
  • Improvements to creation of ACID files workflow (remember working directory, keep bit depth and sample rate)
  • Loop explorer - option to play ACID / MIDI at original tempo instead of project tempo
  • Song sections (i.e. jump to markers in a set order during playback)
  • Fix the annoying note names not lining up with note channels in PRV view bug
  • Rename instances of soft-synths (makes life easier setting up drum maps)
  • Remove silence feature should make slip-edited clips
  • Richtext project & track notes
  • Ability to attach notes to individual audio / MIDI clips
  • Drum maps should be editable in a text-editor instead of the arcane .map format. Or at least make the drum map editor easier to use
  • With the pencil tool active in the PRV, it should be possible to deselect notes
  • Option for the PRV not to select all instances of a note when clicking it to preview the sound
  • Some way of getting plugins like EZdrummer loading their samples automatically on project load, without having to remember to leave the plugin GUI showing
  • Bundle a nice guitar amp sim effect (runs and hides from the anti-doo-dah brigade)


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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 13:26:17 (permalink)
Time shift and stretch like live and pt and cubase.

e.g. drag audio clip endings - real time stretch
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 13:30:45 (permalink)
Be able to detach the "tracks" console view from the "bus" console view. That way they can both float and be put on different screens.

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 13:33:34 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

Sends should insert oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. Send 1 should be at the top, then Send2, etc. Currently, inserting puts newly inserted send at the top. So the top down order is Send3, Send2, Send1.

WHY?


Did you already add the Universal Binary port for Mac?



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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 14:04:04 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: cGar
Be able to detach the "tracks" console view from the "bus" console view. That way they can both float and be put on different screens.

Yes, this would be nice (assuming that it can't be done already). Buses have taken on a life of their own, and deserve a view of their own, or at least an option for it.

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 14:29:44 (permalink)
Time shift and stretch like live and pt and cubase.

e.g. drag audio clip endings - real time stretch


In Sonar - CTRL-Drag

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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/04/03 14:49:31 (permalink)
I'd like to see PRV remember settings. So when I close a window and get back in I dont have to get rid of velocity, change note names and resize before I can edit the hats comfortably.

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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/04/03 15:28:04 (permalink)
I'd like to see PRV remember settings. So when I close a window and get back in I dont have to get rid of velocity, change note names and resize before I can edit the hats comfortably.



That's a good idea.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features 2007/04/03 15:32:41 (permalink)
Ideally it would remember setting for each channel/instrument.
I cant believe I still have trouble getting it to be "drum style" even when its set to channel 10 and its using SD2, which ships with Sonar!

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 16:40:15 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: axe


ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

Sends should insert oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. Send 1 should be at the top, then Send2, etc. Currently, inserting puts newly inserted send at the top. So the top down order is Send3, Send2, Send1.

WHY?


Did you already add the Universal Binary port for Mac?



AXE

I questioned why the original poster wanted his sends inverted. What the hell has that got to do with Mac?
Is your life so empty that you constantly need to think of Macs? Hell, if you like macs so much, then bugger off and switch. See if I care.
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 16:43:59 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: MArwood

Time shift and stretch like live and pt and cubase.

e.g. drag audio clip endings - real time stretch


In Sonar - CTRL-Drag

Max Arwood

Maybe a forum feature request thread that automatically dissallows stuff that's already in sonar!!
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 17:01:02 (permalink)
Please add Chained FX in Sonar 7!!!!
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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 17:08:51 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: planist

Time shift and stretch like live and pt and cubase.

e.g. drag audio clip endings - real time stretch


Sonar 6 already has this.

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RE: SONAR - Feature Request LIST 2007/04/03 18:48:18 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Malevol3nt
Please add Chained FX in Sonar 7!!!!


I will eat my hat if they don't include this feature next time around. It's been requested to death and kicked back up when templates were introduced. I, for one, really want to see it badly.

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