cclarry
I was one of those involved in that conversation...

And I'm willing to bet I don't get anything...they always have a way of "copping" out...
As a matter of fact...it was MY THREAD!
 
I know IK all to well...there were many of us here involved in that thread...
Time will tell and we shall see ...anyone placing bets?

If he specifically promised it to you by name he'll give it to you.  He didn't promise it to everyone in the thread.

vintagevibe

cclarry
I was one of those involved in that conversation...

And I'm willing to bet I don't get anything...they always have a way of "copping" out...
As a matter of fact...it was MY THREAD!
 
I know IK all to well...there were many of us here involved in that thread...
Time will tell and we shall see ...anyone placing bets?

If he specifically promised it to you by name he'll give it to you.  He didn't promise it to everyone in the thread.

This.

And I rest my case....

what "little" they lose on disgruntled users leaving  IK because of the ST3 fiasco..
 
they will make up in spades with the I-STUFF for the 18-34 demographics...
 
the love affair is over ...

ST3 should be coming real soon now, just got a copy of ST2 in my cereal box...
Wonder if that means that I'll qualify for a discounted upgrade price...

Or..........................just be content with ST2 ................and not upgrade.

Here's the latest post in the KVR forum from Peter at IK........aparently, ST3 is generating a lot of heat:
 
 
 
 
"by Peter - IK Multimedia; Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:22 am SampleTank 3 - Hopefully civil unlocked informational thread
Since the two threads got locked, I’ve tried to create the most informative and least inflammatory post possible about SampleTank 3, and I will share information as clearly as possible. The rest is up to you, my participation will be with information that I have and can share as clearly as I am able to communicate it.
SampleTank 3 - The hopefully civil and unlocked informational thread
It is true that 2013 came and went and there was no SampleTank 3. For those unaware, there were some issues and we were not able to release it when we expected to. SampleTank 3 was shown at Winter NAMM 2013 in Anaheim, California from which there are multiple videos (and there was also a mistaken product post from a dealer at that time that has since been removed).
Here is a the information we’ve presented so far, I will add anything I may have missed later in the thread if necessary:
SampleTank 3 will be 64-bit only, and you will be able to use previous Powered By SampleTank libraries (Miroslav Philharmonik, SampleMoog, SampleTron, Sonik Synth, Xpansion Tanks, etc) inside SampleTank 3 and it will be definitely possible to import SampleTank 2 combis in SampleTank 3.
Why was it decided that SampleTank 3 will be 64-bit and why was SampleTank 2.5 not updated to provide 64-bit compatibility? See this post on our Official IK Forum: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewt ... =12&t=6909
The included library will be over 30GB in size and will include over 3,000 instruments in 20 categories
There are three main sections to the GUI: Play, Mix, and Edit and the new interface is less cluttered with much larger typeface. The Play page has detailed 3D renders of the instruments but can also show a list of the instruments in each slot, volume, pan, MIDI channels, output levels, etc instead.
There will be articulations, round robin, key switching, and velocity switching to bring more realism and control to the SampleTank experience.
The sound quality of the included library is poised to rival that of dedicated libraries while also providing many more of certain types of sounds than the stock library of other products.
SampleTank 3 will include over 50 effects, many of those will be new effects too. There are also effects from flagship products like T-RackS and AmpliTube too. Each of the 16 instrument instrument parts will have 5 insert effects slots. There are 4 stereo FX returns and a Master Channel each with 5 effect slots, too.
There will be 14 types of filters, including analog-modeled filters included.
SampleTank 3 will cost 60% of what SampleTank did when released in 2003 and there will be upgrade pricing, including an extra discount for early adopters of SampleTank 2.
I will add photo and video assets to the thread as time goes, too, this is a good chunk of information to start, though. Thank you for reading."
 

snooooooooooooze

cclarry
This is the same EXACT thing we've heard for MONTHS....ad nauseum...

Blah blah blah...

Face it...the vast majority of "Pros" are pretty much done with SampleTank based on 
the MAJOR LACK OF SUPPORT over the years.  I'm sure you'll pay off many "top guys"
to promote your program to increase sales.  As I've stated over and over...there will
be MARKETING HYPE TO BEAT THE BAND!!! (lterally)

Most have moved on to "other" products, that ARE supported, and where, when they INVEST
THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY... the don't have to wait 11 years to get a return...
AND listen to crap for years about the "next version".

Seriously....you better sell this for PEANUTS.....and HOPE that SOMEONE buys it...
The "Newbies" that you GAVE ST 2.5 to will "fall for" your hype.  But those of 
us who have been around won't.  Sorry.

I invested FAR TO MUCH to be "left hanging" for so long, as did many others...

I wish ST3 the best...but if ANYONE out there has ANY sense...they'll PASS.

 
Sorry I JUST do not get it, why you are on such a crusade.
 
You bought a product and it worked for a long time (still works), and WAS upgraded since it was initially released hence the name SampleTank 2.5.  Now they are a redoing the sounds, providing a new version and your projecting onto IK.
 
Nobody promised you a rose garden.  You bought a product that delivered and you used it, you cared about it.  Now after a long time they are going to improve said product and include things that you and many users want AND going to provide an upgrade path so the price will be cheaper to you than buying a new product.
 
I truly do not believe that IK can do anything to appease you from the posts you and some others have posted.  I don't get it.
 
new product with new content and new features - yeah I will probably buy it, as an upgrade.  why not more sounds in my library to have.

I empathize with cclarry and feel like it would be in IK's best interest to just let this ST3 thing quiet down until they have a true product that is available.
 
But for some reason they continue the marketing hype and pushing the product even though they have no availability date or pricing. On another forum there have been at least 2 threads locked due to the forum members and the IK rep arguing about the product. Now, the IK rep has decided to start a New thread over there about ST3 to continue the hype. I JUST don't understand that type of marketing mentality, he just continues to p--s the potential Customers off.
 
Too many broken promises and too much BS. Other than that, I like the IK products I own that will work well in today's 64bit world. Unfortunately bridged 32bit products cause me more problems that I am willing to deal with. If you live in a 32bit world that's fine also as long as you can continue to do the things you want to do and are happy with the results so ST3 should be no issue at all since it will not work in a 32bit world...

Mesh

"SampleTank L
4 CDs of sound content (over 500 sounds). Costs $299 SRP ($229 @ eSoundz).


SampleTank XL
8 CDs of sound content (over 4.5GB - 1500 sounds). Costs $499 RRP ($379 @ eSoundz)."

So will ST3 be 60% of $299/$229 or $499/$379 or simply $X?

MachineClaw

cclarry
This is the same EXACT thing we've heard for MONTHS....ad nauseum...
Blah blah blah...
 
Face it...the vast majority of "Pros" are pretty much done with SampleTank based on 
the MAJOR LACK OF SUPPORT over the years.  I'm sure you'll pay off many "top guys"
to promote your program to increase sales.  As I've stated over and over...there will
be MARKETING HYPE TO BEAT THE BAND!!! (lterally)

Most have moved on to "other" products, that ARE supported, and where, when they INVEST
THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY... the don't have to wait 11 years to get a return...
AND listen to crap for years about the "next version".

Seriously....you better sell this for PEANUTS.....and HOPE that SOMEONE buys it...
The "Newbies" that you GAVE ST 2.5 to will "fall for" your hype.  But those of 
us who have been around won't.  Sorry.

I invested FAR TO MUCH to be "left hanging" for so long, as did many others...

I wish ST3 the best...but if ANYONE out there has ANY sense...they'll PASS.

Sorry I JUST do not get it, why you are on such a crusade.

Head over the Sampletank thread over at KVR, and you'll see a member called "neverenoughfunk" who constantly lambasts any Sampletank thread.
 
See if the posting style seems remarkably similar.   Always with ellipsis (three dots) between phrases, for example. Always the most frequent poster in those threads and mostly only adding combative words and comments about how it'll be terrible and no one should care. 
 
Seem familiar? 
 
Yes, it's weird to get that worked up over it. 
 
(Note:  I do get users frustration with IK's marketing and long development time with Sampletank.  Heck, it annoys me too, but to take it so far as to be unable to just speak your piece and let it be is a bit much.)

Sycraft
64-bit only seems like a very strange choice to me. I mean I personally am all 64-bit all the time but it seems there are still a number of users that aren't. When you've properly written your software to deal with arbitrary pointer sizes, it isn't that hard to compile to both targets. That's why so many companies do it, there is not a lot of extra development effort. Cakewalk, NI, etc wouldn't support both if it was a significant cost increase.

I thought this was odd as well......not having both platforms. Considering it took 10+ years to get to 64 bit, 32 bit possibly was just a waste of time?

Sycraft
64-bit only seems like a very strange choice to me. I mean I personally am all 64-bit all the time but it seems there are still a number of users that aren't. When you've properly written your software to deal with arbitrary pointer sizes, it isn't that hard to compile to both targets. That's why so many companies do it, there is not a lot of extra development effort. Cakewalk, NI, etc wouldn't support both if it was a significant cost increase.

It's not a strange choice at all, IMO.  Anyone running sample-heavy music-production processing is going to be on a 64-bit platform already if they're serious about what they're about.
 
True, the coding shouldn't be all that much more expensive to deal with both 32 and 64-bit.  But testing costs effectively double.  It would not surprise me if IK had done a cost/benefit analysis and determined that the added expense would not produce a worthwhile ROI.