SmokeyJ628

cclarry

rtucker55

yorolpal
Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.

Yeah, same here. That's how my oldest niece use to introduce me to her new friends. 'Meet my Uncle Dumb A$$'
 
I'm still not sure what a CTFO dude is though...

Tuck...CTFO = SHUT THE F*** UP....just an FYI...

 
In that case, it's actually "chill the f*** out"
 
And yes, I had to look that one up.

DERH..my bad....you're right...looked at the wrong one...sorry...my bad..

rtucker55
 
 
oops... Now I see why my oldest Niece would introduce me to her new friends the way she did...  
 
At this point I think it's time for Me to CTFO.   OK, I meant time for Me to STFU...

cclarry
 
Grem, if you notice in my post I said "I assume" and then followed that by "You know what they say about that"
(you make an A S S of U and ME)

THAT is what I meant....sorry you misinterpreted it...
 

I am from the US. I know what Larry meant by his statement.
 
What I have an objection to , and I say it was uncalled for, is his use of (you make an A S S of U and ME) from his post. I didn't make an assumption. He did. So he didn't need to make it a point that I (which is the you reference) made the assumption, thus making an ass out he and I.
 
Again I say CTFO! This is really uncalled for! : P

Mesh

MGC59
CTFO???....Continue To Fight ON?
............Cool The Fight's Over?
...........Console The Forgotten Obi?

I choose the latter....

I have never claimed to be anything I'm not. I am an IK employee. There was a time on the forums that I wasn't and I was a fan of IK. Since then I have made it more than clear. I'm staying out of bickering and arguing, but I won't let people say I wasn't being clear about my affiliation with IK.
 
To the rest of you, best of luck in your music making and gear loving lives.

I remember a while back that Obi stated his position was something along the lines of director of social media for IK which effectively means that it's his job to spam forums and create excitement for their products vaporware.

Here's my deal...as long as the Company treats me with dignity and respect
as a paying customer, and does their best to get the job done, I'll support them
110 percent.   Even AFTER all I say...I still promote IK deals here....even
though I won't buy them.  I don't DEMAND that anyone not buy...I express
WHY they shouldn't buy...

None of these companies pay me to find the deals, the information,
the discussions, or to share their discounts....I do it for THIS FORUM..and THIS 
FORUM ONLY....even though I'm on other forums...

But when a company starts doing shady things, by Zeus...I'm gonna give 'em 
H E double toothpicks for it.  

The Cakewalk X2a deal...they were gonna get a butt stompin' over it...as they SHOULD
have...but I let that slide...this time...but if they pull any more "Here today, gone tomorrow,
OH, we're back...here's a new version, AND we've raised the price, because we added a ton
of 3rd party stuff, that you probably already have, but NEW customers DON'T...NOW PAY ME"
you can rest assured I'll be raising holy Key Biscayne Florida on 'em...and NOT buying anything
they offer after that...

It's not good business to do that to your customers...especially the one's who BUILT YOUR COMPANY,
to go after new business at the ADDED expense to your existing customers.  By all means, go after new business, but NOT at the expense of, and lack of supporting, your existing customers.   Mark my words...that will COST YOU, and COST YOU BIG TIME!!!

I will make it my life's mission to make sure it gets A LOT of PUBLIC attention...and IK should
be sighing a HUGE sigh of relief that I haven't BLASTED THEM in their forum, or on their Facebook Page....
but that options not off the table...believe me...

I don't think we need a separate forum...we just need to respect each others right to express
our opinions...professionally...not in attacking others for their opinions.  If someone rebutts, 
respond in kind.  And, if roads don't cross, agree to disagree. 

I have my moments, I'll admit...especially if you attack me PERSONALLY...but I don't feel any justification whatsoever for anyone coming to the defense of IK (except for those who get PAID to do so)...not after all 
they've done in regards to the neglect of this product line...sorry...I've lived it..and stand firm.

And those who know...KNOW....

This whole ik bashing is,  well,  no disrespect... but...kind of dumb.   Who cares if they never updated it.  It works.  It still works now. I say move on and buy something new if its not working for you.   I stayed at 8.5 and then just went to studio one,  since I got tired of Sonars flaky audio engine.  No drama,  I just buy and use what works for me.  And who cares if they make istuff.  That's got noting to do with anything.  I've used sampletank on a few songs over the years.  But it sounds dated so I moved on.   I still fire it up once in a while when Im looking for bread n butter type sounds. But ive got way better stuff now.  Same with Reason.  It was awesome at first,  but I got of tired of their ways and sound. So I moved on. 
 
  And really, big deal if they didn't meet their release deadlines.  The only ones hurt by that are ik.  They lose customers they could have had.  I know I wouldn't pay $300 for the new version.  Maybe like $150 as a new customer and $50 as an upgrade.  I've got other software that was never updated,  but it works.  I do agree about their spam.  And the ik reps sure come off with some attitude and not very professional.  But whatever.  If the product works,  that's all that matters.  Sampletank is a classic.

Monkey23

mandrake
This whole ik bashing is,  well,  no disrespect... but...kind of dumb.   Who cares if they never updated it.  It works.  It still works now. I say move on and buy something new if its not working for you....

... And who cares if they make istuff.  That's got noting to do with anything....
 
  And really, big deal if they didn't meet their release deadlines.  The only ones hurt by that are ik.  They lose customers they could have had.  I know I wouldn't pay $300 for the new version.  Maybe like $150 as a new customer and $50 as an upgrade.  I've got other software that was never updated,  but it works.  I do agree about their spam.  And the ik reps sure come off with some attitude and not very professional.  But whatever.  If the product works,  that's all that matters.  Sampletank is a classic.

These comments describe exactly how I feel about this whole thing. I really don't get the intensity over a freakin' ROMpler! When it comes to software companies, people always develop this weird attitude like they owe you something. I've heard the word "investment" thrown around these forums way too many times.
Buying Sampletank 2 was not an investment. You saw the ads, read a couple of reviews, checked out the price, decided "that seems reasonable", then used it.
No one ever said " Well I'll buy it, but only as an investment towards sampletank 3, and only if it never goes on sale!"
And everyone keeps knocking the fact that they make Iproducts. Has anyone considered the fact that if they didn't make istuff there might never be ST3.

Incidentally, I think it's cute that people think the istuff is less "pro" than their other products. Really? A software ROMpler is no more or less pro then Sampletank on an ipad.

Completely disagree...

We don't mind the iCraps...and we don't mind the sales....we mind that they completely neglected this
Product Line (5 products) to develop and market iCraps....that's the issue.  This products last update
was almost 5 years ago.  As a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time Music Industry Person, I expect a 
Company to support the products that I've invest my money in.  If they don't, then they've failed.

You may be completely content.  That's fine.  But the vast majority are NOT.  Sorry.  When we use and
rely on a product, we expect product support...not product NEGLECT.  What you expect may be
entirely different, and that's fine.  But those of us who DO USE and RELY on these things, and the companies
that make them to support them, is an entirely different story.

Monkey23
Support? Are you talking about technical support? Because if there are major bugs in your version of Sampletank then I can understand your frustration if it's not being addressed.
However if you mean product upgrade/ next version type of support then that makes no sense. That's not support.
I understand that 10 years is a long time, especially if they've made promises to the contrary. But again, they don't owe anybody anything.

Completely disagree...
 
They owe the customers who invested in their software the support that comes with  it.
If technology moves to 64 bit (now more then 5 years old) and DAW's, VST's, VSTi's, and
EVERYTHING has gone there, and you turn you back on the customers who are following 
those movements and staying abreast, you've failed your customer.  Support is MORE
then just bugs.  It means MAINTAINING the product, keeping it up to date, and current,
AND, above all, usable, which for MOST, this product is barely.

You have the right to your opinion, and if YOU don't care that the product is neglected - GREAT!
But don't say that the REST of us aren't owed anything, just because you feel they don't owe YOU.
But, as I stated before, the MAJORITY consensus is that they have failed....and we do feel that they
owe us the support and maintenance, that comes with a product that you've paid good money for...

Heh.
 

 
When there's a good flambe, I go for the gasoline.

Does anyone else find it ODD that the majority of these "Detractors"
have almost 0 post counts???

cclarry
Does anyone else find it ODD that the majority of these "Detractors"
have almost 0 post counts???

Not to mention 0 Reward Points.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ......wait......

SuperG
Heh.
 
 
When there's a good flambe, I go for the gasoline.

That's a good one!
 
What's with this post count? How does that play into this?