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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/12 22:42:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/13 07:32:46
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I think we should take up a collection and get IK_Peter a sweet present for Valentine's Day:
 
 


Is Whitman's sampler 64 bit, it looks more modern than ST2. 

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/12 22:58:32 (permalink)
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Grem~ sorry bro they have lied. When you say something is going to happen and then it doesn't, you have lied.
 



See, this is where I disagree with this point.
 
I believe that Obi and Peter gave info that they believed was correct.
 
I also believe that IK really thought it was going to happen. We really don't know why it didn't happen, time after time after time and on and on.
 
But like I said, I still don't think they out right came on this or any other forum  and purposely told their customers fallacious info. That's ludicrous!
 
I have told my co-workers info that the office told me to distribute, only to find out a few days later that the office did a complete reversal. Did I lie to my co-workers? No I didn't.
 
ampfixer
 
 I will say that I listen to somebody like cclary before I listen to some "long time" member with a dozen posts.




That was uncalled for. It's this kind of "reaction" that has lead to this "IK Feeding Frenzy!"
 
Again I say, just let it go. You are not doing yourself any good. And you are certainly not hurting IK.

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/12 23:18:39 (permalink)
Sorry Grem....They knew.
Do you notice that they are conspicuously absent from this general discussion?
You are rationalizing their behavior.
This isn't a few months of BS, it is a few YEARS....you are entitled to your opinion of IK and their reps as am I.
They are lying for their bosses...if you want to look at it your way. But a lie is still a lie.
 
One thing I can't lie about is that BAPU not only has every plugin ever made. He even has the most coveted of all plugins....It's made by Gollum Software and only one person can possess it....the miPrecious! It rings... 
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:30:39 (permalink)
Hi Grem,
 The IK representatives amplified the situation when they elected to argue with their customers rather than listen. They offered arguments and introduced talking points which have resonated and grown out of proportion. When I mentioned that it seemed unusual to encounter a professional representative that argued with customers rather than listen, our IK representative argued about the merits of arguing. It just spiraled up and up until IK_Peter showed up as back up, threw it down, and made a fool of himself and the company he represents.
 Regardless of what goes on behind the scenes, it is customary for a professional sales rep to maintain the appearance that he empathizes with the customer. The inability to demonstrate this, and the decision to debate with customers, has created a situation where witnessing IK_Representation ruin its reputation has provided more entertainment value than IK's actual products. I didn't even install my IK_stuff on my latest DAW.
 
 I have interpreted the relaxation of the constant IK_Spamming and its trademark IK_Arguments as an acknowledgement that IK may be reassessing its public relations strategy. I think it's a step in the right direction.
 
 best regards,
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:31:56 (permalink)
Hey, guys! I received a sale flyer from Guitar Center here in Macon and at the bottom of the page on the inside it is advertising, NEW! (in bold red letters) IK Multimedia VSSD Sampletank 3-downloadable version! NOW $299.99! What is this?

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:36:54 (permalink)
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Hey, guys! I received a sale flyer from Guitar Center here in Macon and at the bottom of the page on the inside it is advertising, NEW! (in bold red letters) IK Multimedia VSSD Sampletank 3-downloadable version! NOW $299.99! What is this?




At the last posting of "when" it was slated for MARCH, which may indicate what the Guitar Center email is referring to...however, that's not to say that they won't put it out a few weeks earlier (but actually 4 years later) then they said, and then tout it as bein RELEASED EARLY!!!  And everyone will say YAY!!! DERH!!!





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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:42:08 (permalink)
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mcasta1@hotmail.com
 
Grem~ sorry bro they have lied. When you say something is going to happen and then it doesn't, you have lied.
 



See, this is where I disagree with this point.
 
I believe that Obi and Peter gave info that they believed was correct.
 
I also believe that IK really thought it was going to happen. We really don't know why it didn't happen, time after time after time and on and on.
 
But like I said, I still don't think they out right came on this or any other forum  and purposely told their customers fallacious info. That's ludicrous!
 
I have told my co-workers info that the office told me to distribute, only to find out a few days later that the office did a complete reversal. Did I lie to my co-workers? No I didn't.
 
ampfixer
 
 I will say that I listen to somebody like cclary before I listen to some "long time" member with a dozen posts.




That was uncalled for. It's this kind of "reaction" that has lead to this "IK Feeding Frenzy!"
 
Again I say, just let it go. You are not doing yourself any good. And you are certainly not hurting IK.



I beg to differ...if ALL of us...who were bilked out of thousands and have waited YEARS to get an
an update DON'T BUY...it will put a SERIOUS dent in their market. Unfortunately, it is the only way
that we can "be heard iLOUD AND iCLEAR" (see what I did there?).

I assume you purchased during the IK SAMPLETANK GROUP GIVEAWAY...from your supportive posts,
and are eagerly anticipating ST 3, but that's an assumption, and you know what they say about that.

As far as letting it go...as I said BEFORE....NEVER EVER! (unless the conditions are met)





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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:47:54 (permalink)
Just browsed thru a forum where IK responded that Guitar Center made a mistake in the advertisement and apologized that it was not available yet! A lot of mad guys in there!

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:50:59 (permalink)
Sidroe
Just browsed thru a forum where IK responded that Guitar Center made a mistake in the advertisement and apologized that it was not available yet! A lot of mad guys in there!




There's a LOT of mad guys in HERE too..and EVERYWHERE!!!

Didn't the Beatles do a song about that???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrmm7Bk8rMM


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 07:55:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/13 12:38:44
Guitar Center fliers don't even make it to the house.
 
I stop by the trash can on the way in.


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 08:17:27 (permalink)
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Guitar Center fliers don't even make it to the house.
 
I stop by the trash can on the way in.



Same here...I can find either in the store, or online for cheaper....so I don't even bother with Catalogs and 
flyers anymore....


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 09:02:06 (permalink)
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Hi Grem,
 The IK representatives amplified the situation when they elected to argue with their customers rather than listen. 
 

 
Yes that was bad form on their part. No doubt.
 
mike_mccue
 
 I have interpreted the relaxation of the constant IK_Spamming and its trademark IK_Arguments as an acknowledgement that IK may be reassessing its public relations strategy. I think it's a step in the right direction.
 
 best regards,
mike




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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 09:26:41 (permalink)
Ok let's all calm down a little...
 
GROUP HUG everyone! (except for obi and the IK reps...stay in the corner until you've finished ST3!)
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 09:27:31 (permalink)
cclarry

I assume you purchased during the IK SAMPLETANK GROUP GIVEAWAY...from your supportive posts,
and are eagerly anticipating ST 3, but that's an assumption, and you know what they say about that.

As far as letting it go...as I said BEFORE....NEVER EVER! (unless the conditions are met)




I bought my first IK product back when CW offered the CRS package. Loved the stuff and used it.
 
Next IK purchase was Amplitube 2 package ($19!) that CW offered.
 
And I remember all the talk about Sample Tank when it came out. And it's updates. I just never decided to go with that product. Mostly because I was served by Dim pro, Rapture, and Zeta.
 
They offered the Total Bundle, I got it even though I just purchased Amplitube 3 for $99. Mostly because I wanted the complete T RacKs. I still haven't even used Sample Tank yet! And am I eagerly awaiting it's release? Nope. Like Mike Q said, this pre-release has been much more entertaining! So that's a wrong assumption on your part.
 
Will I buy ST3? Depends on what they offer me.
 
And Larry you made the assumption that I made a purchase, because of my "supportive posts"?  If I saw you down and someone constantly beating on you, I'd step in and say enough. IOW, I'd do the same for you, just out of principle. And I would turn to guy beating you and say, "Let it go"
 
This is almost like a religious campaign to convert the non believers. We all know how that turns out.
 
If you feel you must.....
 
 

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 09:30:10 (permalink)
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Ok let's all calm down a little...
 
GROUP HUG everyone! (except for obi and the IK reps...stay in the corner until you've finished ST3!)




I saw this after I posted! Good one!! : )

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 09:47:31 (permalink)
Grem... Now that we're done hugging it out, I'd just like to say I'd rather be warned by someone I trust than fooled by some one I don't know.
 
I have made significant purchases based on the advice of the good people in this forum.
 
I bought a $1500 Variax guitar because BAPU recommended it. (I got a great deal on it too) He was spot-on with his advice. It is worth it's weight in gold.
 
I bought my DAW PC from Jim Roseberry on the advice of multiple users on this forum. Best purchase ever!
 
I don't know any of these people personally but I trust them and value their opinion.
 
The software forum is a great place to find out what's good and what's not so good. What's on sale and what isn't a good deal.
 
I liked IK until they pulled this disgraceful stunt.
 
There are so many smaller software companies like Orange Tree, Indiginus, Scuffham and Valhalla DSP that are trying to scratch out an existence. I'd much rather spend my money supporting them than give another dime to IK.
 
Their name is now officially "Li K Multimedia" in my book
 
I spend more time in here than in any other forum on the Cakewalk page.
 
 
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 10:06:39 (permalink)
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cclarry

I assume you purchased during the IK SAMPLETANK GROUP GIVEAWAY...from your supportive posts,
and are eagerly anticipating ST 3, but that's an assumption, and you know what they say about that.

As far as letting it go...as I said BEFORE....NEVER EVER! (unless the conditions are met)




I bought my first IK product back when CW offered the CRS package. Loved the stuff and used it.
 
Next IK purchase was Amplitube 2 package ($19!) that CW offered.
 
And I remember all the talk about Sample Tank when it came out. And it's updates. I just never decided to go with that product. Mostly because I was served by Dim pro, Rapture, and Zeta.
 
They offered the Total Bundle, I got it even though I just purchased Amplitube 3 for $99. Mostly because I wanted the complete T RacKs. I still haven't even used Sample Tank yet! And am I eagerly awaiting it's release? Nope. Like Mike Q said, this pre-release has been much more entertaining! So that's a wrong assumption on your part.
 
Will I buy ST3? Depends on what they offer me.
 
And Larry you made the assumption that I made a purchase, because of my "supportive posts"?  If I saw you down and someone constantly beating on you, I'd step in and say enough. IOW, I'd do the same for you, just out of principle. And I would turn to guy beating you and say, "Let it go"
 
This is almost like a religious campaign to convert the non believers. We all know how that turns out.
 
If you feel you must.....
 
 



Grem, if you notice in my post I said "I assume" and then followed that by "You know what they say about that"
(you make an A S S of U and ME)

THAT is what I meant....sorry you misinterpreted it...

Do I feel I must...YES...it's a matter of PRINCIPLE.  If I "let it go" in this case...then THEY win...
BUY all you want from them...be my guest.  I own and USE just about everything they make...

But not any more...sometimes you have to make a stand, especially for what is RIGHT for EVERYONE.

You can let it go....that is your prerogative....

but I have to say, it was a very bad Analogy...not to be disrespectful...but your analogy was poor,
and if I'm WRONG and have DONE WRONG..then I deserve the beating...and should suffer the 
consequences of that wrong, especially if I refuse to apologize and make amends...IMHO...


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 11:47:00 (permalink)
Can I just say that I really don't think we guys in the forum should be arguing with each other about a company like IK - no matter who's right or wrong in the argument, in my book the only party that is hopelessly "wrong" is IK.
Perhaps we could agree on just that point and move on.
This is such a great forum, we don't want to be falling out with each other over a  company like IK which employs pretty suspect marketing to say the least. Its not worth it, or perhaps I should say, they're not worth it.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 12:18:59 (permalink)
cclarry
 
Grem, if you notice in my post I said "I assume" and then followed that by "You know what they say about that"
(you make an A S S of U and ME)



Larry, Now your calling me an A S S! CTFO dude! I saw your statement about assumptions. And I stand by what I said, you made a wrong assumption. Not me!  I'm still cool with you. But don't call me an A S S.
 
And the most important point of that post was the religious analogy.
 
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I have made significant purchases based on the advice of the good people in this forum.
 
I bought a $1500 Variax guitar because BAPU recommended it. (I got a great deal on it too) He was spot-on with his advice. It is worth it's weight in gold.
 
I bought my DAW PC from Jim Roseberry on the advice of multiple users on this forum. Best purchase ever!
 
I don't know any of these people personally but I trust them and value their opinion.
 
The software forum is a great place to find out what's good and what's not so good. What's on sale and what isn't a good deal.
 
I liked IK until they pulled this disgraceful stunt.
 

 
We are a lot alike. I bought my first music computer from Jim in '98. Made many purchases based on what I learned from good people on the newsgroup and this forum. In fact a lot of things I learned about from Larry! I come to this forum and look around. I post mostly in the Main forum. But I still look all over.
 
But not really sure what your trying to convey to me. I could make assumptions, but rather not right now!! : )
 
 
 
 

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 12:31:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/13 12:42:53
Grem,
 
Calm down...I called BOTH YOU and I and A S S...if we make assumptions...

I'm sorry you misinterpreted it...and sorry you have such an issue with it...

Dude...you're entitled totally to your opinion, as I am to mine...and it's 
certainly not worth this...

Just know that I'm not going to let IK slide...and take your own advice and let it go...
but you still have the right NOT TO let it go if you so choose...


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 12:44:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mike_mccue 2014/02/13 13:05:26
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I bought a $1500 Variax guitar because BAPU recommended it. (I got a great deal on it too) He was spot-on with his advice. It is worth it's weight in gold.



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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 13:14:02 (permalink)
Now I want a Variax too.
 
 
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 13:25:53 (permalink)
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Grem,
 
Calm down...I called BOTH YOU and I and A S S...if we make assumptions...


I'm sorry you misinterpreted it....




Again Larry, I didn't make any assumptions. You did.
 
Nor did I misinterpret it.
 
I am calm. Just don't call me an ass.
 
 

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:08:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/13 14:51:53
Grem,
 
I'm going to have to come to cclarry's defense here (believe it or not!), and say that his statement was a self-deprecating one.
 
He said "I'm assuming that..." and then noted that those who make assumptions often make an a s s of themselves.  So, he was saying essentially, "I might making a fool of myself by making this assumption."
 
I didn't read it as directed to you, but just to himself. 
 
In my opinion (<--did I do that right?)
 

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:27:25 (permalink)
Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.

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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:40:45 (permalink)
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Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.


Yeah, same here. That's how my oldest niece use to introduce me to her new friends. 'Meet my Uncle Dumb A$$'
 
I'm still not sure what a CTFO dude is though...

Purrrfect Audio DAW here.  Wow!...
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:41:50 (permalink)
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Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.


I always say, better to be a dumb ass than a smart ass!
 


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:53:33 (permalink)
yorolpal
Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.


Me too...mostly deservedly...


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:54:38 (permalink)
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yorolpal
Heck, I've been called an ass many a time...usually prefaced with the word dumb.


Yeah, same here. That's how my oldest niece use to introduce me to her new friends. 'Meet my Uncle Dumb A$$'
 
I'm still not sure what a CTFO dude is though...



Tuck...CTFO = SHUT THE F*** UP....just an FYI...


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Re: SampleTank 3 Release 2014/02/13 14:55:49 (permalink)
Mesh
Now I want a Variax too.
 
 
Bapu?
 
 



Me three...I played with one at GC....it was awesome...


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