Indyman
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/13 11:35:05
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No new features. No new synths or plugins. Just a stable, glitch-free audio engine. Really, I'd pay for just that.
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plasticsoul
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/20 19:45:30
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I really really really need DSD support in Sonar!! Even just a DSD import function... I have ton of DSD files on my computer and no way to process them
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/20 20:22:43
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Stability is number one for me. Most of the new features don't live up to their promise anyway. I still find Audiosnap a poor replacement for something like Beat Detective or Elastic Audio. V-Vocal is not as good as Melodyne. The included plug-ins are ok, but I don't use them. The hardware insert latency detection stuff has never worked well for me and SONAR 7 crashes way more than SONAR 6, SONAR 6 way more than 5, and so on. So I end up paying for an upgrade, only to find out the new features are mostly hype and I go back to using an earlier version of SONAR because it's more stable. I'm not familiar with the VST API but can't plug-ins operate in some protected memory space so they can't crash SONAR? I would gladly sacrifice some performance for more stability. I still have problems looping in SONAR 7 and a too a lesser degree in SONAR 6 causing an infinite stutter that requires a reboot of the computer to clear. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 did not have this problem.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/20 20:28:11
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ORIGINAL: majortom Stability is number one for me. Most of the new features don't live up to their promise anyway. I still find Audiosnap a poor replacement for something like Beat Detective or Elastic Audio. V-Vocal is not as good as Melodyne. The included plug-ins are ok, but I don't use them. The hardware insert latency detection stuff has never worked well for me and SONAR 7 crashes way more than SONAR 6, SONAR 6 way more than 5, and so on. So I end up paying for an upgrade, only to find out the new features are mostly hype and I go back to using an earlier version of SONAR because it's more stable. I'm not familiar with the VST API but can't plug-ins operate in some protected memory space so they can't crash SONAR? I would gladly sacrifice some performance for more stability. I still have problems looping in SONAR 7 and a too a lesser degree in SONAR 6 causing an infinite stutter that requires a reboot of the computer to clear. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 did not have this problem. I used to have to budget tracks and plugins etc, so unfortunately, with newer versions come higher hardware demands. After I upgraded to a Q6600 CPU with 4 gb ram all of my minor glitches and such went away. This may be what your up against. F@KKER
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/21 16:38:08
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I'll pay 200 us dollars just for feature number 3 of the first post (play-order-track thingy). I need it daily. Oh yeh, did anyone mention time signature en tempo values/changes on the timeline?
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 04:45:40
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Automation of FX Bin buttons (on/off).
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 10:44:00
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To Take Sonar to the heights of compositional, producer work............. Marker following for composition. A set of markers that can be placed throughout the song that are jumped to in order of numbering. (We currently have jumping through set up a single looped region) To make this incredible...Also build in the ability to restructure. i.e. hit accept on restructuring the song in the timeline to reflect what was defined by the markers.... This would eliminate much cut copy and paste work. Some problems would include audio clips .... these would have to be either auto split or require a split at the end of a marker region. eg 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1.......1 2..................2 3.........................3 After accepting the restructure the timeline would look like the below 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1.......1 2..................2 3.........................3
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Lunatique
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 12:07:22
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Ahh, so here is that wishlist I've been looking for. Strange, I tried searching for it but came up empty. Anyway, I posted about this one wish here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1437636&mpage=1&key= But I'll post it here too just to have it with the rest of the wishes. I'm in the middle of scoring a film right now and while doing all the insane MIDI editing on a bunch of orchestral articulations, I had this distinct feeling that if Sonar had a grabber tool like the one in Photoshop, it would make our lives so much easier. Right now the only way for me to get around a giant full page of Piano Roll or track view is to use the scroll bars or the scroll arrows, with no way to jump around to the octave/track I need to be at very fast (Navigation view doesn't help in this case since it doesn't work with the piano roll). If Sonar had the grabber tool, we would be able to move around extremely fast. For those of you that don't use Photoshop, the grabber tool is basically like this: You hold down space bar, and then you click and hold anywhere on the canvas, and then simply move the entire canvas in any direction your mouse moves, at any angle. Anyone else wants this in Sonar?
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Marcus Curtis
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 12:33:22
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Stability is number one for me. Most of the new features don't live up to their promise anyway. I still find Audiosnap a poor replacement for something like Beat Detective or Elastic Audio. V-Vocal is not as good as Melodyne. The included plug-ins are ok, but I don't use them. The hardware insert latency detection stuff has never worked well for me and SONAR 7 crashes way more than SONAR 6, SONAR 6 way more than 5, and so on. So I end up paying for an upgrade, only to find out the new features are mostly hype and I go back to using an earlier version of SONAR because it's more stable. I agree with this. I do use the included plug-ins. For the most part I am pretty happy with Sonar and everything it does. Sonar 5 seems to be a bit more stable on my machine than Sonar 7. I also like the mixer better in 5. I have read through most of this post, If you are going to add anything how about adding a few video editing tools. although I am a novice at the video thing. It would be great if I did not need to export the sound track and import it into adobe premier for the simple things I want to do. How about including an mp3 converter instead of buying it separately. That's the kind of nickle and dime thing Microsoft is famous for. If you are buying an audio app To work with. It should include exporting all the common file types like mp3. these are the things that I would pay money for to upgrade, Like I said earlier, over all I am happy with everything Sonar does.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 12:41:23
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Man, I've been all over this thread, (and AM all over this thread), and lemme tell ya, here's what I see coming up over and over: - STABILITY
- Play-order-track thingee (in all it's variations)
If v8 had only these two features I'd be pretty happy, to be honest. Of course if it had the other 10 or so features, fixes, and tweaks that I'd like I'd be ecstatic. I reckon we'll know in the next two months!
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 15:33:27
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My Sonar is very stable, so that's not an issue for me. I'd like a WAV Editor within Sonar (even it's just a simple pencil tool with nothing else). The grabber tool would also be nice, then I don't have to re-size my edit window, or search for the scroll bars. This could save me a few minutes out of every hour I work on this program.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 15:35:05
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I'd like a WAV Editor within Sonar (even it's just a simple pencil tool with nothing else). Have you ever double clicked on a clip?? I dont think you have..  Cj
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GMGM
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 15:57:38
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Color me embarrassed. I confess that I haven't looked there lately. I've always found that oversized window to be annoying (I like small graphics for some reason). But hey, if that's where it lives - I can deal with that - no problem. Thanks for the pointer... Just curious though, was this new to version 7 ? I remember looking for this before, and finding nothing but forum conversations like "how come there's no wav editor in Sonar?" Oh well, thanks for sharing! Gregg
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 17:55:31
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ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic I'd like a WAV Editor within Sonar (even it's just a simple pencil tool with nothing else). Have you ever double clicked on a clip?? I dont think you have.. Cj Does that have a pencil tool?
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CJaysMusic
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/23 17:57:38
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It might, I never used it. double click a clip and check it out. It has allot of editing tools in it
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thomasabarnes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/25 16:04:16
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Here's what i'd like to see in SONAR 8: -Improved ACT MIDI Controller plug-in First let me say that this plug-in is very stable for me! Please make it so that when we save a preset we can choose where to save it on our hard drive, and make it a format so users with the same MIDI controller can share the presets. Also, how about making this plug-in so that we can set up at least 16 tracks with 1 instance of the plug-in connected! General MIDI has 16 tracks. The button setup manner is miserable! If one has a line of 8 buttons to assign to track arm, for instance, all of the buttons will only operate the same function on the same track. That leaves one miserable, or am I missing something? When I assign the Arm track function to each of these 8 buttons, I'm looking to have each button control a separate track! The manner of doing this with the Cakewalk Generic controller is nice. One checks the radio button for a parameter, selects Arm Track for that parameter, select the configure strip number, and that button is assigned to that configure strip number or track. This is great!!! It makes it easy for each button assigned to track arm to control track arm for separate tracks! Can Cakewalk make this manner of assigning controls available with the ACT MIDI Controller Plug-In?!!!! Or at least make this end result simple in the ACT plug-in. or make some other plug in that can have all the features in this request? I sure hope Cakewalk reads this. Implementing these features will make things a lot easier and convinient for us trying to setup our MIDI controllers.
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GMGM
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/25 16:27:01
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I checked last night, and couldn't find any pencil tools. I've seen a lot of guys on this forum use stand-alone or inserted programs with wave editors. I might do the same, except it seems silly that this tool is NOT part of the greatest DAW ever made (that'S SONAR of course). Even my previous DAW on Pro Tools LE had a pencil tool. How hard is this to add? In the meantime, I guess I can use my old old old version of Wavelab Lite (which came with my old old old Creative Soundblaster card from the very first PC I ever built back when I was dumb enough to buy Windows ME - the Vista of the 90's). And I've got Audacity as well - it just "bugs" for some unexplainable reason. Also - that was a cheap shot at Vista by the way. I'm actually on record, saying that I get great performance on my laptop running Vista Home Basic (of all versions). Even ME wasn't that bad. Face it, if you don't make the effort to understand and configure your PC properly, you DESERVE to have problems. Also, does anyone remember how XP was received at first? Pretty much the same as Vista is now if I remember correctly.
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racah15
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/25 17:54:15
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- A Thesaurus So I can understand the mad lingo those producers use. I mean don't get me wrong, I can use this software with ease, its just sometimes when you learn something new, you want to know what it is instead of just knowing its a 10 letter word.
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thomasabarnes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/07/25 18:03:49
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@racah15 ROTFLOL
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2008/07/25 18:27:34
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/28 20:10:15
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FINALLLLLLLLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone mentioning notation! I am a musician... therefore I read music! What would Photoshop users say if PS3 told that that they had to name colors by numbers and never look a palette. When I edit music, I want to do so by looking at a real music sheet look alike screens (not that dumb down single line version in Sonar). Look at what is available in Cubase or Logic in that department. Huge difference...... Sadly for us Sonar users. It seems many are interested in moving little black boxes (Piano roll) and they got their turn in S7. How about notation in S8? Notation hasn't received any kind of serious attention for probably 10 versions of Pro Audio/Sonar!! I am a die hard Sonar fan (since Cakewalk 1.0) and will never switch. But I also won't buy another version of Sonar (I am at S3) until this gets seriously addressed. Musicians unite and let Cakewalk know this is an important issue. Michael
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Jamski
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 08:07:31
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I would like to see in the new version more distinct mechanism of definition of rate of imported audio tracks. For example as at Acid. (Sony)
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plainfaced
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 16:20:22
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Whats Sonar 8? Ive never heard of that?
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Twigman
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 16:23:15
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I'd like a British English interface
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bapu
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 16:58:12
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ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English and I assume you're a guy, does this mean you want woman?
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Twigman
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:00:11
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ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English Tell that to the Scots the Welsh and the Northern Irish......they'll soon put you straight. Not all Brits are English. Mind you most Scots and Welsh wouldn't consider themselves British either...
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bapu
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:03:18
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ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English Tell that to the Scots the Welsh and the Northern Irish......they'll soon put you straight. Not all Brits are English. Mind you most Scots and Welsh wouldn't consider themselves British either... So you don't want a woman?
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:10:03
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ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English Tell that to the Scots the Welsh and the Northern Irish......they'll soon put you straight. Not all Brits are English. Mind you most Scots and Welsh wouldn't consider themselves British either... So you don't want a woman? I've got one already thanks.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:12:43
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ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English Tell that to the Scots the Welsh and the Northern Irish......they'll soon put you straight. Not all Brits are English. Mind you most Scots and Welsh wouldn't consider themselves British either... So you don't want a woman? I've got one already thanks.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:14:44
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ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman ORIGINAL: bapu ORIGINAL: Twigman I'd like a British English interface  Since I believe the British are English Tell that to the Scots the Welsh and the Northern Irish......they'll soon put you straight. Not all Brits are English. Mind you most Scots and Welsh wouldn't consider themselves British either... So you don't want a woman? I've got one already thanks.  I was half expecting a join the Mormons then you can have as many as you want then I saw you're in California not Utah...
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List - NOTATION!
2008/07/29 17:22:32
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