Elffin


SO far I like the expanded... really great ideas...

1 or 2 questions.....
Does the browser show the icon pictures?
Are Note value 'icons' back in notation window? - integrated step record perhaps???

No Staff View love I fear.


If you want Note value 'icons' back in the notation window, pm me.

"There are bug fixes included in Expanded, including many in the ProChannel."

It seems like those are coming even if you upgrade or don't. Strikes me as funny there are bug fixes for Pro-Channel when it's been stated so many times there weren't actually any specific issues though.

The proprietary modules might be worth your while though, personally I wouldn't spring for them because they will be Sonar specific.

I can understand that not being an issue for some but it would be for me.

John

Jonbouy

"There are bug fixes included in Expanded, including many in the ProChannel."

It seems like those are coming if you upgrade or not.

The proprietary modules might be worth your while though, personally I wouldn't spring for them because they will be Sonar specific.

I can understand that not being an issue for some but it would be for me.

Then you would hate Cubase or Logic.

I do already...

One of the things I've always loved about Sonar is the open endedness of it.

I sure hope that don't change.

daryl1968


Jonbouy Do you have X1? The spec on your signature says 8.5.3.

Nope and this news ain't getting me any closer to migrating neither.

Of course I have an interest in X1 because I'm a Sonar user.

Why? Do you have a valid objection to that there?  Does it diminish my point of view in some way?

The best thing about Expanded is You can add what you like to your channel strip.  A Home run in my book! Plus you dont have to hear others **** about why a delay and not a compressor ect.. It totally lets you build your daw the way you want.. No need for those expensive lunch boxs .. Just hope we get a few great 3rd party developers designing plugs for the Pc..

Jonbouy

"There are bug fixes included in Expanded, including many in the ProChannel."

Strikes me as funny there are bug fixes for Pro-Channel when it's been stated so many times there weren't actually any specific issues though.

I know I know. I'm trying to be positive here.

Honestly ... the most important thing I want to know is ... who is the cutie singing in the promo video?

Isn't the girl Cori Yarckin?

I have reason record and was wondering if I should upgrade since I haven't use it since X1, I will definitely get the expanded ASAA. 

Jonbouy




Those that have stuck with X1's growing pains all the way from December will have to pay a third of the full version upgrade price for this killer added functionality? 

Those were exactly my thoughts when I read about it, Jonbuoy. I think it's ludicrous to charge for this...and guess what, if you're a yank, it's roughly HALF the upgrade price. Granted, I have been one that hasn't had extreme show stoppers from version 1 of X1...however, I've had to deal with enough quirks and issues that have made me wait until X1 c to where I was able to fully trust and use the program "for business". Surely the time it took for all of us to wait is worth something? Is it standard norm for some people to wait 6 months to be able to use it? It pains me to say it...but this has definitely been my worst Sonar experience to date and hearing stuff like this upsets me even more. I'm going to shut up and stick to 8.5 where I belong. As a matter of fact, I'll probably not consider another upgrade for a very long time if ever. While typing this....the PC bug just showed up. I so wish I could reproduce this...it's happened 3 times this week. I'm twisting dials and hearing no change at all. I just closed it down, reopened the project...it works fine. Oh joy...just what I need...more mods to PC that I have to pay for. No thanks. If it weren't for screen sets and effects chains, I'd not even use X1. 
 
-Danny

Danny Danzi

Jonbouy

Those that have stuck with X1's growing pains all the way from December will have to pay a third of the full version upgrade price for this killer added functionality?

While typing this....the PC bug just showed up. I so wish I could reproduce this...it's happened 3 times this week. I'm twisting dials and hearing no change at all. I just closed it down, reopened the project...it works fine.
 
-Danny

Danny ... this post means so much to me. And not in an, "In your face Cakewalk!" kind of way, but rather a, "See! I told you this was happening and you didn't believe me!" kind of way.

I think we all can agree that I've pretty much had the $hit kicked out of me for quite some time because I've been saying for months, "Hey guys ... there's a real problem here.". When someone like Danny comes along and says the same thing I've been saying all along, they can't deny it anymore.

Yet, I'm still going to upgrade to the Expanded pack and new limiter. I'll give them the money because I am a capitalist and I believe in a free market system and I do support Cakewalk. One thing I know is, now is not the time to be taking funds away from them if we want to see Sonar advance. Especially in this economy, every penny counts ...

Thanks for the post Danny, I only wish this would have happened to you sooner. It may have gotten resolved months ago if it had.

Sincerely,

Bub

dgrm44


I am confused. What is so great about the new 'Create Your Own FX Chain'?
And what is this new PC Standard I have read about in this thread....is it something comparable to VST?

Unless I misunderstand, it's our new method of creating fx chains... But with the special ability to insert within the ProChannel's bus. I think this is the solution they came up with for our need/desire to mix our vst's with/within the PC buss (environment)...

There is no PC standard (by name) that I know of yet, but Cakewalk created their new PC using it's own bus instead of the vst's... As vst is a trademark of a competitor, I perfectly understand...

Keni

Bub

Danny Danzi

Jonbouy

Those that have stuck with X1's growing pains all the way from December will have to pay a third of the full version upgrade price for this killer added functionality?

While typing this....the PC bug just showed up. I so wish I could reproduce this...it's happened 3 times this week. I'm twisting dials and hearing no change at all. I just closed it down, reopened the project...it works fine.

-Danny

Danny ... this post means so much to me. And not in an, "In your face Cakewalk!" kind of way, but rather a, "See! I told you this was happening and you didn't believe me!" kind of way.

I think we all can agree that I've pretty much had the $hit kicked out of me for quite some time because I've been saying for months, "Hey guys ... there's a real problem here.". When someone like Danny comes along and says the same thing I've been saying all along, they can't deny it anymore.

Yet, I'm still going to upgrade to the Expanded pack and new limiter. I'll give them the money because I am a capitalist and I believe in a free market system and I do support Cakewalk. One thing I know is, now is not the time to be taking funds away from them if we want to see Sonar advance. Especially in this economy, every penny counts ...

Thanks for the post Danny, I only wish this would have happened to you sooner. It may have gotten resolved months ago if it had.

Sincerely,

Bub

Gotta say, I can't believe I haven't swayed you yet on the fact that we never denied this issue existed. All we did was ask people to contact us so we didn't have to dig through thousands of off-topic forum posts to get to the bottom of the issue. 

Despite my PM invitation, the total amount of times people contacted me directly on this particular issue was zero.

The good news though, is that a helpful forum member that was running into this actually contacted Tech Support. We worked together and he provided me with tons of details regarding why ProChannel would intermittently not process audio for him. After about a week of trying to reproduce it myself since then, I actually can reproduce it repeatedly on a few of our test machines.

I've spammed QA and Dev's inboxes since then. It's much easier to get to the bottom of this stuff when we're given a fair chance. ;)

EDIT: I should add that this is light humor. I'm totally thrilled to have a recipe to reproduce this so that we can take the workload of you folks trying to convince us it's real.

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]

Despite my PM invitation, the total amount of times people contacted me directly on this particular issue was zero.

Your Inbox must be full. I've PM'd you three times and only received a response once.

Bub.

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]

Bub

Danny Danzi

Jonbouy

Those that have stuck with X1's growing pains all the way from December will have to pay a third of the full version upgrade price for this killer added functionality?

While typing this....the PC bug just showed up. I so wish I could reproduce this...it's happened 3 times this week. I'm twisting dials and hearing no change at all. I just closed it down, reopened the project...it works fine.

-Danny

Danny ... this post means so much to me. And not in an, "In your face Cakewalk!" kind of way, but rather a, "See! I told you this was happening and you didn't believe me!" kind of way.

I think we all can agree that I've pretty much had the $hit kicked out of me for quite some time because I've been saying for months, "Hey guys ... there's a real problem here.". When someone like Danny comes along and says the same thing I've been saying all along, they can't deny it anymore.

Yet, I'm still going to upgrade to the Expanded pack and new limiter. I'll give them the money because I am a capitalist and I believe in a free market system and I do support Cakewalk. One thing I know is, now is not the time to be taking funds away from them if we want to see Sonar advance. Especially in this economy, every penny counts ...

Thanks for the post Danny, I only wish this would have happened to you sooner. It may have gotten resolved months ago if it had.

Sincerely,

Bub

Gotta say, I can't believe I haven't swayed you yet on the fact that we never denied this issue existed. All we did was ask people to contact us so we didn't have to dig through thousands of off-topic forum posts to get to the bottom of the issue. 

Despite my PM invitation, the total amount of times people contacted me directly on this particular issue was zero.

The good news though, is that a helpful forum member that was running into this actually contacted Tech Support. We worked together and he provided me with tons of details regarding why ProChannel would intermittently not process audio for him. After about a week of trying to reproduce it myself since then, I actually can reproduce it repeatedly on a few of our test machines.

I've spammed QA and Dev's inboxes since then. It's much easier to get to the bottom of this stuff when we're given a fair chance. ;)

EDIT: I should add that this is light humor. I'm totally thrilled to have a recipe to reproduce this so that we can take the workload of you folks trying to convince us it's real.

My comment wasn't aimed at Cakewalk, it was aimed at the people who have been "kicking the $hit out of me" ... which Cakewalk has never done.

Bub

Danny Danzi

Jonbouy

Those that have stuck with X1's growing pains all the way from December will have to pay a third of the full version upgrade price for this killer added functionality?

While typing this....the PC bug just showed up. I so wish I could reproduce this...it's happened 3 times this week. I'm twisting dials and hearing no change at all. I just closed it down, reopened the project...it works fine.

-Danny

Danny ... this post means so much to me. And not in an, "In your face Cakewalk!" kind of way, but rather a, "See! I told you this was happening and you didn't believe me!" kind of way.

I think we all can agree that I've pretty much had the $hit kicked out of me for quite some time because I've been saying for months, "Hey guys ... there's a real problem here.". When someone like Danny comes along and says the same thing I've been saying all along, they can't deny it anymore.

Yet, I'm still going to upgrade to the Expanded pack and new limiter. I'll give them the money because I am a capitalist and I believe in a free market system and I do support Cakewalk. One thing I know is, now is not the time to be taking funds away from them if we want to see Sonar advance. Especially in this economy, every penny counts ...

Thanks for the post Danny, I only wish this would have happened to you sooner. It may have gotten resolved months ago if it had.

Sincerely,

Bub

Hahaha actually Bub, I thought I had posted in a few of your posts regarding this but maybe I didn't and I'm mistaken. I know I posted somewhere when someone mentioned the issue. Someone at Sonar even contacted me about the issue I was having privately, but because I couldn't give them any steps to reproduce it....there's nothing anyone can do. What's weird is, they don't seem to ever see this problem on their end. I've posted about it a few times, but I never made my own thread. Maybe not so much in this forum because...well, I try my best not to b!tch too much as I do respect and honor the Bakers we DO get on this forum. Not sure about the ones we don't know...but I think both Seths, Willy, Noel, Brandon and some of the others we see around here are all top notch guys. I'd be willing to bet if they could tell us stuff "off the record" they feel our pain on some of this stuff.
 
But I'll tell ya, it was kind of a slap in our faces to read about this expand thing....knowing what we've been through with this release. Then again, maybe the (insert number here) users of X1 are all completely happy and there are only 30 of us on this forum that are missing the boat, unqualified to run the program, don't know enough about Windows, have crap pc's, junk video cards, Sh!tBlasters, and our lack of comprehending the manual or that 64 DOESN'T make a difference when a program has some issues. You know what's weird for me? When I use X1, I miss what I can do in 8.5. When I use 8.5, I miss some of the new features you can use in X1. It's like I'm so screwed up now, I'm taking turns per project just to satisfy myself only to say later "I should have used 8.5 because this just happened" or "why did I even use PC....I know better" and I'm stuck bringing in my own effects chains....which is really cool and one of the features I totally miss in 8.5. I dunno man...I guess I'm just tired of the whole release "growing pains" thing. It's been more of an "as the Sonar turns" than I could really handle this time. 8.0 was tough to swallow when it was released....but this was really hard for quite a few of us...ok wait, at least 30 of us. :)
 
Honest opinion? I'd much rather pay Panu and Ben for giving me options that really make a difference for the better....but that's just me.
 
-Danny

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk
]
SNIP

The good news though, is that a helpful forum member that was running into this actually contacted Tech Support. We worked together and he provided me with tons of details regarding why ProChannel would intermittently not process audio for him. After about a week of trying to reproduce it myself since then, I actually can reproduce it repeatedly on a few of our test machines.

I've spammed QA and Dev's inboxes since then. It's much easier to get to the bottom of this stuff when we're given a fair chance. ;)

EDIT: I should add that this is light humor. I'm totally thrilled to have a recipe to reproduce this so that we can take the workload of you folks trying to convince us it's real.

That's great news. I'd say more important than anything in months. Let's have the Pro Channel patch - TODAY.  I'd like to start using it again.