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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/23 19:18:12
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I'm on the demo right now - tested out some larger sized projects and plugins and it has been smooth in terms of performance for me - I really do want to upgrade to producer but unfortunately the snap settings are stopping me right now...I'm curious as to why there isn't more talk about this - I've looked all over, it seems like you can't snap notes on the staff. Am I missing something here?
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/23 19:41:25
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Despite impressions you might get by reading this forum, there are no showstopper bugs in X1 at this time.
(A "showstopper" is a product defect severe enough to make a feature unusable. There is currently nothing you cannot do in X1 that you could do in 8.5.)
Outstanding gripes mainly involve UI decisions that, in some users' opinions, make some operations less convenient. Those are legitimate complaints, but don't expect any of them to be addressed in X1c or any fix release.
Bottom line is if you like the new UI, go ahead and jump in. If you don't like it, stick with 8.5; you will not be missing out on anything significant.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 00:52:31
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My thread, "New and Happy X1 Owner" tells how I feel.
I think that computers are so much of the trouble with audio recording that sooner or later that Cakewalk and all the others will start offering full DAWs for sale. I go to some of these forums and see the equal to someone with a Vo;lswagon trying to pull an eighteen wheeler.
If the companies don't start offering DAWs, then I think we're all going to see them posting a more stringent list of acceptable computers and those that aren't.
From what I've seen, including me, the problem areas are, in order: 1) Wrong computer 2) Human error aka the operator doesn't know what he's doing 3) Buggy program.
I still don't understand. Is there a reason why people aren't keeping 8.5 and using X1 independently?
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 02:41:08
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X1B works excellently for me. I liked 8.5, but X1 is just better. And more stable. Plus, as Brandon knows, I discovered some MAJOR Timecode bugs in 8.5 which is not present in X1 - a huge improvement for anyone working in film/tv.
I use X1 every single day professionally, and it rocks for me. I WOULD like to see better audio quantizing/replacement features, and have been forced to add PT9 to my toolkit for that. But on the whole, X1 is a great DAW for ME. Mileage may vary, as it always does.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 02:47:47
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Well JustGotPaid - I am asking those questions myself too...
And indeed, the problems are in those three area's. I have seen a lot of "bugs" reported here (in a lot of cases with "BIG FAT LETTERS CLAIMING X1 IS UNUSABLE"), that turned out to be just user errors.
I would add to the "wrong computer" also things like soundcards that are not up to par (like on-board cards using ASIO4ALL drivers that are no real ASIO drivers but just a wrap-around), slow hard drives and computers that are also used for other work. This last category can have a lot of services running in the background (from other non-audio software) that are interfering with X1 or spark of strange events. I have these things seen happening on my game computer. In the middle of the game you are thrown completely out of the game right to the desktop and see the message "there are updates available for program "Whatevernonsenseprogram" popping up from the task bar. Imagine something like that happening in the middle of a recording session (or nasty enough - even taking place in the background without any message)!
And you also have the users (not a lot of them but they post very freqently) that using ever occasion to drop some vitriolic or sarcastic comments (in some cases completely over top) giving the general impression X1 is a buggy pile of steaming brown mass. This could add to the negative feeling too.
Sure - X1 has bugs. Every software has bugs. I also use Cubase now and then (but I still prefer X1), and if you look around on their forum you can see Cubase has his share of nasty bugs too. As a side comment - it seems the Cubase bitbridge version also has a lot of problems Sopnar has too. In both cases Jbridge is used to solve these (I do not use bitbridge or Jbridge because I use 32-bit X1 - on a 64 bit system tough). So - some complaints are fair.
At last - there is also still a bunch of people that simply has difficulty's with-, or just do not want to adapt to- X1. They want something new, while everything has to stay the same. In some cases they need or want functions they are used to, that are no more (or in different shape) available in X1. I do not say their complaints are not legit or something. I just say those things do not bite me (and a lot of people with me). That is not to say X1 cannot or should not be improved. Like with any other software there is allways something to desire...
So yes - I am a happy X1 user. This software has just everything I need, and it works without any problem...
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 06:08:52
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My biggest issue/disappointment with X1 was, is, and will continue to be the global snap settings. Separate snap settings for the PRV and TV weren't broken before, so why Cakewalk decided to "fix" them is still beyond me and continues to be a PITA. I don't want to rely on third-party add-ins, keybindings, or using up my (slow) screensets (which I'd prefer to use in a different capacity) as a workaround for something that didn't need to be tampered with in the first place - I just want my separate snap settings back......dammit. 
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Aside from that, I really like X1.
+1.... ...and... speaking of things that SHOULD be brought BACK.... .... it's not only that specific feature missing, in my (and others'...) view, old tools' buttons are ALL missing...! (...think of "aim assistant", midi "magnifier", ALL tools in PRV, just to mention a few now missing...!) Forget about silly hotkeys..... it's no real solution.... What we need is dear old "one-click" features and their immediate, constant VISUAL FEEDBACK... which ONLY buttons (like in hardware...) can give.... They MUST come BACK to SONAR, otherwise X1 will be, at least far as this "workflow" aspect, a poorer version of classic SONAR.... This is URGENT fix needed....!!!! 
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 08:30:11
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Quote - "I use a laptop with ASIO4ALL. I require this for my work. Does that mean I'm out of luck?"
Heck No dude, I have a laptop with ASIO4ALL and my system smokes and is almost bug free, I consider myself a power user and have no problems VIVA LA X1 y Laptop!
post edited by shawn@trustmedia.tv - 2011/06/24 08:34:39
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 08:41:42
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I think X1 is just fantastic. I am on the borderlione hobby / pro, and have used it a lot lately. The more I use it, the more I like it and the more I get impressed. I have noticed bugs, for example previews in the browser loop regardles off the menu item being ticked or not. But all in all, it just works. And the new user interface - just love it!
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 08:48:15
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Outstanding gripes mainly involve UI decisions that, in some users' opinions, make some operations less convenient. Those are legitimate complaints, but don't expect any of them to be addressed in X1c or any fix release.
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Have been mighty busy and not around lately but I sure don't expect Cakewalk to give us back the easy to use tools on staff and piano roll views. I hate hud. Hud is useless for a controller/mouse person with a keyboard stashed out of the way - So unless someone has found a way to activate the hud with a keyboard I just cannot use XI. It's just to unconventional. Even if you can activate hud without a keyboard, it still adds another wasted motion. And loosing right context menus? Jeez. Yep they are both show stoppers imho. Can't use 8.5 either because of the broken set measure/time to now. So I guess I'll be on 6 until the cows come home.
post edited by pianodano - 2011/06/24 14:57:18
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 10:43:16
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Sorry for not being up to snuff but, Am I understanding correctly that Cakewalk has removed 'right clik context menus' in X1? Ouch..
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 11:09:22
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Sorry for not being up to snuff but, Am I understanding correctly that Cakewalk has removed 'right clik context menus' in X1? Ouch..
No they have not been removed.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 12:23:07
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The menus are there... but some of the good contextual stuff that used to be in them has been moved to other places.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 12:40:46
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bitflipper
Despite impressions you might get by reading this forum, there are no showstopper bugs in X1 at this time.
(A "showstopper" is a product defect severe enough to make a feature unusable. There is currently nothing you cannot do in X1 that you could do in 8.5.)
Outstanding gripes mainly involve UI decisions that, in some users' opinions, make some operations less convenient. Those are legitimate complaints, but don't expect any of them to be addressed in X1c or any fix release.
Bottom line is if you like the new UI, go ahead and jump in. If you don't like it, stick with 8.5; you will not be missing out on anything significant.
The showstopper for me is that I have to stop the show to relearn everything. Several X1 owners have posted that 8.5 is still their production DAW. So I could buy it just to learn it and then buy it again when the next version comes out? Doesn't seem like a good deal to me. I really like the idea behind it but why buy something I cant use in my work? Also it seems they really forgot laptop users. I'm in scrolling hell on my laptop.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 13:11:00
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The showstopper for me is that I have to stop the show to relearn everything.
Exactly so. My comment was there are no showstopper bugs, so the only reason to hold back is if you don't like the UI or don't want to mess with it. If you're undecided, try the demo. Go in with an open mind and give it a fair shake. Don't feel like you have to upgrade just to stay current or because you might pay more for the next version. If the past is any indicator, the price penalty for skipping one rev won't be that onerous.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 14:01:49
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bitflipper
The showstopper for me is that I have to stop the show to relearn everything.
Exactly so. My comment was there are no showstopper bugs, so the only reason to hold back is if you don't like the UI or don't want to mess with it.
If you're undecided, try the demo. Go in with an open mind and give it a fair shake. Don't feel like you have to upgrade just to stay current or because you might pay more for the next version. If the past is any indicator, the price penalty for skipping one rev won't be that onerous.
I have downloaded the demo and I really love the concept but I don't understand many of the choices. It still could have had the great Silverlight interface without changing virtually everything and without removing flexibility. Microsoft figured that out years ago and therefore have made it fairly easy to make the change to new versions. With X1 I really have to start over on things that I really don't have time to start over with. I have to dig in the help or go on the forum just to find out where VSTi's go when you insert them. (I still don't know and don't see them in the track view.) I want to buy it but if I it can't be my main DAW and I need to install 3rd party freebies to be productive I think they missed the mark. They have a great deal now for 8.5 users but it would be gear lust and with no practical benefit for me. I've seen indications that there is something in the pike and if that came out while this deal is on I might take the plunge.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 14:40:31
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i started a project today, inserted 4 alchemy synths and 2 fm8s, then sonar froze, and then it somehow was able to corrupt the file, so now that everytime i try to play the project, the program freezes. so i tried to bounce the audio out to keep working in a different program, but it wasnt able. thats a showstopper bug. ill send the project file to anyone who wants to test it on their computer.
so i finished the idea in a different program, and im glad i did, it will be a cool song :)
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 15:49:01
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lavoll
i started a project today, inserted 4 alchemy synths and 2 fm8s, then sonar froze, and then it somehow was able to corrupt the file, so now that everytime i try to play the project, the program freezes. so i tried to bounce the audio out to keep working in a different program, but it wasnt able. thats a showstopper bug. ill send the project file to anyone who wants to test it on their computer.
so i finished the idea in a different program, and im glad i did, it will be a cool song :)
You can't say it's a SONAR bug unless someone else can replicate it and you can rule out issues with your synths.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 17:30:15
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My biggest issue/disappointment with X1 was, is, and will continue to be the global snap settings. Separate snap settings for the PRV and TV weren't broken before, so why Cakewalk decided to "fix" them is still beyond me and continues to be a PITA. I don't want to rely on third-party add-ins, keybindings, or using up my (slow) screensets (which I'd prefer to use in a different capacity) as a workaround for something that didn't need to be tampered with in the first place - I just want my separate snap settings back......dammit.
But Sonar PLUS is amazing. Seriously. Easy to install and stable. Adds back some of the most common features that sonar "veterans" would miss with X1, plus adds a few nice things of its own. I don't any reason why anyone shouldn't be using it :P
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 17:35:46
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I have to dig in the help or go on the forum just to find out where VSTi's go when you insert them. (I still don't know and don't see them in the track view.) Sounds like your track view isn't set to "All" -- there should be a drop-down list at the top that says things like "all" "custom" "mix" etc. These are analogous to the little tabs at the bottom of the track view in sonar 8. For some strange reason, the default normal template in X1 has it set up so that most things are hidden. I prefer just keeping it at "all" unless I really need the screen real estate. Also you can see the VSTs in the inspector to the left, which seems to be the "preferred" way to look at track info nowadays. Sonar is a complex program. You're going to have to hit the help file/ tutorial/ forums at least a few times. This isn't new to X1. I've made it a point to at least skim through the help pages for all the new/changed features in every sonar release, and I've always learned lots of useful things that way.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 17:39:41
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<snip> ... It still could have had the great Silverlight interface without changing virtually everything and without removing flexibility. ... </snip>
I'd certainly like to see some of the capabilities of Silverlight (or rather it's brethren WPF) in a future version of Cakewalk, complete with support for touch-screen gestures. I envisage one day in using a very large tablet screen where I am operating independent of any mouse or even keyboard for the most part. But it needs to be done right and I truly believe if they nail it then the touch-screen paradigms will be a big eye-opener for everyone. I think it's inevitable one way or another, but would love to see Cakewalk get there sooner than later...
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 17:50:02
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Despite impressions you might get by reading this forum, there are no showstopper bugs in X1 at this time.
(A "showstopper" is a product defect severe enough to make a feature unusable. There is currently nothing you cannot do in X1 that you could do in 8.5.)
Outstanding gripes mainly involve UI decisions that, in some users' opinions, make some operations less convenient. Those are legitimate complaints, but don't expect any of them to be addressed in X1c or any fix release.
Bottom line is if you like the new UI, go ahead and jump in. If you don't like it, stick with 8.5; you will not be missing out on anything significant.
While I would agree that there are no "showstopper" bugs, there are some nasty ones hiding in there once you get deep enough. Most are either long-standing classics like envelope copy/paste/delete hole/slide over issues, weird non-repeatable ones where the interface seems to get in a strange state (I had one of these the other night where the mute tool started doing all sorts of strange things. Closing and re-opening sonar fixed it), or "lesser used" features having quirks and a lack of polish (staff view especially expression/dynamics markers, matrix view timing glitches, etc) I keep a file with several bugs and issues I keep running across. Many of them have been "submitted to development" for several versions of sonar now. They must be stuck in a "low priority" pool somewhere. But yeah -- at this point (quickfix 255+sonar plus) I'd say sonar X1 isn't any worse than 8.5. Whether it's better enough to be worth the changes is up to personal taste (good thing there's a demo now). I personally think the smart tool shortcuts (once you get used to them), the prochannel, better docking/multi-monitor support, and fixing several issues in 8.5's audiosnap put it over the top for me.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 18:30:15
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I keep a file with several bugs and issues I keep running across. Many of them have been "submitted to development" for several versions of sonar now. They must be stuck in a "low priority" pool somewhere. Unfortunately, CW are not very good about updating the problem database. I have a few bug reports in there (going back to March 2010 when I started keeping track) that are all designated "submitted to development" and have never been updated, even though I have verified that at least one of them was fixed in X1. The database should be kept up to date and it should be searchable, even if only by registered users. As it is, progress is either not logged at all or is only reported to the original submitter - accompanied by a stern warning that the user is not allowed to disclose that information! I really think CW could learn from the Cockos folks about development transparency. This obsession with secrecy only serves to erode customer confidence.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 20:47:53
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I mentioned in another post that buying software (particularly upgrading software) should not be like going to Las Vegas to play slot machines. When I make purchasing decisions for my studio, I research and plan very carefully and it pays off--I installed my current DAW in 2003 and have not had a single problem with it--never even a day of downtime--and I've produced 4 albums with it. Why? Because I plan carefully, test carefully, buy carefully and I know what I am doing in terms of getting everything to work together smoothly. It would really help people if Cakewalk were transparent about its bug database, specifically which bugs have been confirmed and when Cakewalk plans on addressing them. For example, I am getting ready to retire the 8 year old DAW. I want to run a new choir library that requires more RAM than Win XP allows, so it's a given I'll be using Windows 7-64 bit. I would have made my purchase by now but I cannot--I have to minimize risk by not buying X1 until I can be reasonably sure it will not cause me headaches after I install it, the new library, software synths, etc. An honest declaration of intention by Cakewalk in terms of fixing what is really not working as intended would go a long way in helping customers to make informed decisions as to if and when to purchase. They must know which user reports are in fact really bugs in Sonar, and they must have an idea as to which bugs they will address. Why not be transparent and tell us? Jerry Gerber www.jerrygerber.com/musicfortwelveinstruments.htm
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 21:05:27
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Just sealed a deal with COREL to be partners in The SoundTraxx Music Library. COREL makes the #1 selling PC Video Editing Software VIDEO STUDIO PRO which is a perfect match for The SoundTraxx Music Library. COREL has over 1 million users worldwide these and future customers of COREL will be exposed to The SoundTraxx Music Library Volume I at 50% off the $100.00 standard price. I estimate sales of ALOT. I have used SONAR and it's predecessors my entire professional career, it's my gun and I shoot it often. Through some fluke I received a $25.00 upgrade to X1 and have been inspired to create many songs since it's release. Anyway I'm blessed and that has ALOT to do with SONAR & CakeWalk + ROLAND. Thank You, Shawn Lee Farrell SONG: http://www.trustmedia.tv/SONAR TEST.mp3 
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 22:28:06
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i started a project today, inserted 4 alchemy synths and 2 fm8s, then sonar froze, and then it somehow was able to corrupt the file, so now that everytime i try to play the project, the program freezes. so i tried to bounce the audio out to keep working in a different program, but it wasnt able. thats a showstopper bug. ill send the project file to anyone who wants to test it on their computer.
so i finished the idea in a different program, and im glad i did, it will be a cool song :)
I have Alchemy and FM8, so if you want to send the .cwp to me, I'll give it a go.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 22:37:35
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vintagevibe
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Also, if you are testing on a laptop with a built-in sound card, your experiences will vary. Please test on a system with a proper audio interface. Really, there's no point in testing or reporting any issues otherwise.
SP
I use a laptop with ASIO4ALL. I require this for my work. Does that mean I'm out of luck?
No, but its not really the best reference system to test on. I don't think any of us reference issues that you guys put forth on a system without an audio interface, so there may be anomalies with ASIO4All (or just the plain MME driver) that crop up that we don't see with proper ASIO drivers and an audio interface.
I'm not saying don't test or report what you see, but it would be worth it to note the system you are testing on and also to cross-reference your issues on your proper DAW.
SP
Yea... really folks. If you are using the sound card that "came with the frame" so to speak then you are using something that is quite an inferior product. Made with the expectation you will replace it if you use it for anything above general computing. It's eating CPU anyway. Always disable onboard audio in the bios after getting at least a interface that was made to record audio with. There is no reason on the face of the planet why you would use the on board audio for any reason, for anything when using with something as powerful as Sonar... or any other DAW Master Software. Get a real interface, some are as cheap as $100 usd but I would recommend $150-$200usd minimum for an interface... on up to whatever you can afford. Also, if loading a 3rd party plugin makes Sonar unstable... report it. If you are using outdate or illegal plugins and they crash it then you have to dump them as well. They shouldn't be used in the first place anyway.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 22:57:22
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I hope it will be sooner than late,r but eventually we are going to see all these companies be more and more particular about what interfaces and other third party hardware and software that is approved.
PT caught a lot of flack about making people use the M Box and M-Audio. But as I learned the hard way, they also eliminated a lot of compatibility issues. I think they later flexed the design to accomodate more interfaces, but we're going to see more and more about approved hardware and software with all these recording software programs.
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/24 23:40:38
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I don't post much, but I have been an authorized user since Pro Audio 7 (mid-late 90's ?). I grew up with Cakewalk, and I developed a feel for the Cakewalk user interface over the years, with each new version seeming to always enhance the previous version, and develop in a linear, continuous manner. My first version of SONAR was Home Studio 7XL .... I had messed around with SONAR 3 on a friend's computer, and could recognize the clear difference in the approach to the design of Home Studio versus full-up SONAR 3 Producer. I found that Home Studio was way more simplistic than the real deal, and had limited flexibility and a reduced tool set when compared to SONAR 3. I got so frustrated with Home Studio I eventually purchased SONAR 8XL Producer. I was VERY pleased with the 'tool set' and the manner behind it's layout .... It was on the same track as Pro Audio on how the GUI was organized and how tools were accessed and arranged. I was home again. SONAR just kept getting better and better with every version; we were used to that. I was quite excited about X1, and looked forward to getting it, thinking it was going to continue in the same development style as previous SONAR versions .... As soon as I saw the GUI layout, I recognized the hand of Home Studio ..... X1 has a similar interface and graphical architecture to Home Studio 7 .... The design of the windows and tool icons in X1 are more similar to Home Studio than Pro Audio or previous SONAR versions. There are less tools .... There are less tools 'at your fingertips' .... ALL the editing buttons have been removed .... ALL of the file operation buttons have been removed. Sure, there is a decent set of program functions available on the icon panels in X1, but they are still limited when compared to SONAR 8.5. The loss of the file and edit buttons had an impact on my workflow, and still does when I try to use it. File and Edit task buttons are central to operating most applications - They should exist on X1 as well. I also seem to have trouble using 'SNAP', in that it will at times refuse to jump by the snap count of a measure or note, forcing me to seek the beginning of the measure; tick by tick. That kinda sucks ..... I may be using the wrong setting, but it has simply defied my abilities to figure out at this point. I do love ProChannel .... It brings users so much power to have THOSE tools at our fingertips ... I am also pleased at the quality of the soft synths and effects .... X1 makes incredible recordings, but I find the loss of the aforementioned functions and buttons to really suck. Yeah ... I still use SONAR 8.5 more often than X1. It just feels AND works better for me .... Cmon Cakewalk ... Bring back the file and edit buttons .... Make room for them on X1 .... They are still super convenient to have ...
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/25 02:35:22
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 SONAR X1...ain't she pretty...and she's got it under the hood!
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Re:Sonar X1 - Where are we?
2011/06/25 04:55:11
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<snip> ... It still could have had the great Silverlight interface without changing virtually everything and without removing flexibility. ... </snip>
I'd certainly like to see some of the capabilities of Silverlight (or rather it's brethren WPF) in a future version of Cakewalk, complete with support for touch-screen gestures. I envisage one day in using a very large tablet screen where I am operating independent of any mouse or even keyboard for the most part. windows 8 (ms touchscreen-loving next os) is moving away from wpf/silverlight to html5/js (though i'd put money that it'll be some ms hack version, they havent managed to comply with any standards before now) - windows devs are "up in arms"... try googling windows 8 silverlight...
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