John

RodC

insane especially since the items were not removed just move to a better place. How idiotic. 

No they were not moved to a better place.  Before this change you didn't even need the inspector, saving lots of valuable screen real estate.  So now my I key is wore out turning the inspector on and off.  :)

Really? You use the phase and stereo buttons that often?

+1


If you need to use those buttons that often then you've got something wrong with your mixing vision as you clearly can't make up your mind what you want to do. It should be a quick set it and leave it.


To be fair, you might be doing mono check on the master bus, but still, shouldn't need to that often. It's pretty easy to pop the inspector up quickly. A workaround would be to just put Channel Tools on the Master, set it to mono, and simply turn it on and off when you wish to check mono compatibility. Gives you additional options too, such as adjusting the output to -3dB (or whatever is appropriate for the mix - it will vary) so when you sum to mono, it doesn't get louder. Stereo interleave won't give you that.

Meno

xabiton

As for your soundcard..  I'm having a few audio troubles too.  a lot of my troubles went away with proper system tweaks.. You are using windows 7 home premium?

Even with system tweaks, I am getting the occasional dropout, but nothing like it was before..  plus, I think Cakewalk knows it, and they have probably done some tweaking for X2...  I'm not worried though about the whole, "paid update/upgrade." thing..  I know some guys have complaints..  but you know..  when you want to the next model car, or the next model tv, or the next model software...

:-)

cheers

Are you using Balance as well? I am on Windows 7 home premium yes. When I called support on this issue the first time they had no idea what Balance was or Propellerhead for that matter. It was very disencouraging to say the least but I called last week spoke with a guy named Dan who had been helping me via e-mail support (though sometimes waiting over a month to email me back) and apparently this issue will not be fixed in x1. I am definately demoing X2 first but if these issues are not fixed I am highly considering going Studio One 2 Professional with a crossgrade rather than Sonar X2 Producer Expanded which is where I will likely go if I upgrade with Cakewalk. I love the Cakewalk plug ins and have not had a single issue with those in any environment I have tried them in. 

SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC TO ALL OTHERS...I COULD NOT HELP MYSELF 

Hi xabiton
Are you saying that Cakewalk rep Dan is acknowledging there is an issue with Sonar and your BSOD’s. The reason I ask is that this makes no sense. I may be reading it wrong.
 
I agree with some of what LP is saying...usually a BSOD with the cache manager error message is one of a few things...you point out one of them there are others... failing RAM and/or hard drive, not enough memory (RAM) on the machine, miss-matched RAM, bad device drivers or something starting up in Windows.
 
My gut is that this has nothing to do with Sonar needs a patch but its more something with the PC. The thing is what if you go and buy another DAW and have the same issues? Try the demo 1^st.
 
Every 3-5 years I have to re-install Windows so I keep an extra hard disk drive around to install to and run a dual boot. I can then copy what I need from on drive to the other. Jut a thought on what LP said about re-installing windows. Or go buy some matched RAM from the store test it and bring it back if it still crashes.
 Hate to see someone not being able to use a DAW like X1.
 
Good luck brother.
-Meno (John)

He said Sonar does not do that and said it could be a variety of things and said its more than likely my anti virus but i caught him at the end of the day only to find out that it was not the problem at all. I also own Reason and Live too and these problems do not happen. I am not one to complain to complain but all of my issues that I have with DAWs generally only happen with Sonar. Live likes to crash a lot out of no where sure but hey it recovers my last session so we are still good as opposed to when Sonar used to crash (not nearly as much as it did when I was on Home studio 7) I was just screwed and usually ended up with a corrupted session too. But since updating this cache deal from samsung's website things seem to be smooth sailing for now outside of the pops and actual bugs like rewire not working right. The BSOD I am sure is not a Sonar issue itself and I am sure was something with a driver I was not trying to say Sonar caused BSODs that would be absurd! No pro audio company could live like that. I am saying the other bugs that are there should be fixed is all. I think if we got an X1e X1 could be the best DAW out there and fight with Reason for title of most stable daw in the world. 

damn at that price point sounds like the expanded producer guys are taking it with no vasaline its almost as bad as paying to be a beta tester hell I still feel like a beta tester 2 years later at times      

Wonder if Scott's already working on the X2 Power! book?

winyardPro


...Again you get punished for buying sooner rather than later. Shouldn't it be free for all users prior to a certain date not after? More money for something that the PC gives for free. X1 users are still at a disadvantage for expanding the company.

Why not make it free for everyone up until the point when Cakewalk run out of cash and go out of business?

You know the more I look at it the more I like the looks of it. I could get use to the dark on dark of the TV. 

Nuts I am getting excited about it. 

Oh well. 

The track that is selected may be the auto zoom 

The dark on dark is not unpleasing at least to me.

trimph1

Bristol_Jonesey

winyardPro


...Again you get punished for buying sooner rather than later. Shouldn't it be free for all users prior to a certain date not after? More money for something that the PC gives for free. X1 users are still at a disadvantage for expanding the company.

Why not make it free for everyone up until the point when Cakewalk run out of cash and go out of business?

Giving him ideas are we?


I'll buy the thing when it comes out...

+1

mudgel


I reckon the update from X1 Producer Expanded to X2 Producer will be maybe back to $179.

Once SONAR 8 to 8.5 to X1 happened we got $99 upgrades.
I reckon those days are gone.

Previous to SONAR 8, updates were annual and $179 from Producer to Producer. Remember there will have been a 2 year cycle from X1 to X2. There was also a 15 month cycle from SONAR 8.5 to X1.
 
If you adopt early you get caught in the "Beta" phase of ironing out the early bugs that got through testing. If you buy late you feel cheated because a new version comes out the minute you unpack yours and feel it's somehow devalued what ylou have.
The realities are: 
- you always have the software you bought.
- the later in the cycle that you buy the more stable the version you'll have
- If you pick an upgrade cycle for yourself and stick to it all things will even out in the end.

Exactly.

I've never had a problem with Cakewalk's pricing structure with regard to upgrades.  It's not hard to follow and is good value especially when you work it out as an annual 'cost of ownership' figure.  If I decide to spring for this particular upgrade now coming from 8.5 it will have worked out at £30 p.a., which for maintenence of a major piece of productivity software is peanuts whatever way you frame it.

I just hope this time round there is something in there that warrants me upgrading as that more than the pricing structure will have the biggest bearing on whether I open my wallet.

I will be really tempted to upgrade to X2 as soon as it comes out, and hopefully, any current issues I am having (such as my Rapture problem discussed elsewhere) will be fixed in X2.

I might, however, wait until Windows 8 is properly released. X2 is compatible with W8, and I think it would be better to upgrade both at the same time, therefore not having to re-install X2 when the new OS comes out...

xabiton


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+15.6%26%2334%3B+Series+7+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver/5575679.p?id=1218665501364&skuId=5575679&st=samsung%207%20series&cp=1&lp=2

That is my laptop 8 gigs of ram stock never needed to upgrade. bought it in February I have reinstalled windows and the problems never really changed I did since that post do a cache update that Samsung released recently and now Sonar at least opens and runs ok but the vst scanner crashes everytime I try to use it. No other dongles I try to keep my setup dongle free but I love Reason and its my favorite music making program (sorry Cakewalk) so the ignition key was worth dealing with for me. No other copy protection other than the software e licenser on my system for a few arturia synths I am demoing. Balance works with Asio4all but its own drivers are much better. I did a system back up and restore about a month ago maybe 2 months. That avast was a headache to get rid of though had to contact their support to do a clean uninstall Cakewalk tech support said that any anti virus will screw up Sonar. I couldn't install it completely at one point but since doing that update i was able to at least get a successful install of X1a and I am currently downloading B C and D so I can be on the latest update and maybe even ditch my issues with the vst scanner which is a new issue that usually does not happen in Sonar. But since updating my Cache deal from Samsung I have had no problems with Sonar besides the vst scanner *knock on wood* if I can get Sonar working as advertised 85-95% of the time (i am a 10 year reason owner I am spoiled by stability) I will preorder X2 Producer just to show I have no ill feelings towards Cakewalk though I know release updates are buggier than an ant farm

That does sound rough.  hmmm..  The problems you are having, sound beyond my ability to help you solve.  I hope things get better for you


Cheers

synkrotron


I will be really tempted to upgrade to X2 as soon as it comes out, and hopefully, any current issues I am having (such as my Rapture problem discussed elsewhere) will be fixed in X2. 

I might, however, wait until Windows 8 is properly released. X2 is compatible with W8, and I think it would be better to upgrade both at the same time, therefore not having to re-install X2 when the new OS comes out... 

+ 1 

Robin Kelly [Cakewalk
]

http://www.cakewalk.com/SONAR-X2/ There will be more product information on SONAR X2 at the end of August.We will post pricing information closer to the shipping date of SONAR X2 which is NOT in August. For now, we do have some preliminary information up on the page listed above.

From the video teasers, it looks like X2 doesn't have any Staff/Notation updates!

:-(

I'm hoping all my current Pro Channel Modules will be compatibale with it.

I'd say you have nothing to worry about on that score.

If they weren't, then many thousands of users would be furious and not even bother to upgrade.

I don't think Cake have the financial cojones to pull that sort of stunt.

Also the snap settings are all new and fancy (auto snap thing I suppose).

 
Aside from the darker TV color scheme that's one of the first things I noticed.   It's difficult (if not impossible) to make out what those icons actually are, but it's obvious that there are some changes in that CB module!  
 

MarkH


Looks really interesting, but I'm actually already running X1 on a machine with specs below the minimum (without performance issues) so I'm not sure my aging DAW is going to handle it. 

Did the video mention any minimum specs for x2?