gordonrussell76
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 08:05:30
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The guys is a troll Its probably one of the Logic/Cubase marketing guys realising that with Sonar 7 his bonus this year has just gone up in smoke :) G
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2007/10/24 08:06:42
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Hi I guess if you've already got a MacPro but no DAW software, then Logic 8 with its new price point does look attractive. But then, again so does Sonar 7PE and an OEM version of Windows Xp to run in Boot Camp. I'm sure either would get the job done for you. I use Macs and PC's and they both have their pro's and cons. I don't see why you can't just choose one or the other and get on with it without dissing thhe other. Sonar can give you a professional DAW, so can Logic. Neither would survive if they didn't. Leopard may or may not be a great OS. Vista may or may not be a great OS. Time will tell. Andy
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2007/10/24 08:07:00
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Maybe we should keep are session logs here..LOL What riveting reading that would be. I bet it could still descend into a row in less than five posts. "So I put the bass drum up on one..." "You put the kick on one? You obviously don't know what you're talking about" "That's not what your mom said when I told her in bed" etc.
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I guess if you've already got a MacPro but no DAW software, then Logic 8 with its new price point does look attractive. But then, again so does Sonar 7PE and an OEM version of Windows Xp to run in Boot Camp. I'm sure either would get the job done for you.
I really can;'t fathom these DAW wars at all. They've converged so much in feature sets and functionality, it's now largely down to personal taste and familiarity, as far as I can see.
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2007/10/24 08:16:20
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Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW What is a "hardware musician"? You play the hammer?
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2007/10/24 08:17:45
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So i guess us older guys are "soft"ware musicians...  Cj
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2007/10/24 08:24:10
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I know an increasing amount of people who at the next census should probably state their religion as APPLE. Yea for the multitude did genuflect unto the Whitened box, and they saw that it was good. jPod did take the five photos and 2 soundtracks and created a visual feast that reached 5000 via podsermon etc. I'll be honest with you, I think I would now prefer to talk to Tom cruise at a cocktail party than have an Apple believer rant at my left ear lobe. I am really looking forward to the day that we have debates about whether we should teach Apple or Darwinism in schools. This post has its tongue very far in its cheek, please keep the hate mail and death threats to a minimum.
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2007/10/24 08:28:28
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ORIGINAL: John Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW What is a "hardware musician"? You play the hammer? Or loose screws.
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2007/10/24 08:28:41
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I don't really have an IPhone... you can't use them as a phone where I live... and I don't have a blog for my ballet troupe either.
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ORIGINAL: steve austin Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW and all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7 not to mention Vista. how dare cakewalk advertise S7 as the ducks nuts and 64bit and all that crap when it is far from being stable and efficient. Over on the Mac side of things, LogicPro8 has just been released and it is 99% stable and bug free "ON RELEASE" and the new Leopard OS will be released this friday and it will give no such problems as Vista does, plus it will actually give a 35% increase in performance because Leopard has been totally optimised for intel multicore processors and it runs 32bit and 64bit applications simultaneously without any need for a so called bit bridge that cakewalk uses. I would have loved to jump on board with Sonar7 because it looked like a very good DAW with all its new plugs etc but Logic Pro8 has just lowered its price from $999 to $499 which makes it irresistable esspecially when i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro, and also i don't have to worry about other issues like drivers, bios, and certain obscure settings, but rather just load up and go.by the time LogicPro has its first update it will be100% bug free or as close as you could expect from any DAW. There is just too many problems and inconsistencies going on with the PC and vista and Sonar for me to even consider hoping on board. This is mainly cakewalks fault as they have the programmers and resourses to deal with this but alas what a mess they leave us in and they are so slow to do anything about it or come forth and admit things and openly discuss it. the only plugs that i would like to have in Logic when i buy it, is the V-vocal and the full version of the Rapture synth,well V-vocal is Sonar only so i miss out there but rapture is available as an audio unit for Mac so i will definitely get that, otherwise Logic Pro has more than i need to get the job done, as well as it's included mastering plugs which are truly world class and have been redesigned for the Pro8 version. The PC side of things from what i can see is nothing but hassles and i would rather be making music than trying to sort out UNECCESSARY problems all day long. nothing against you guys as i just want you to know that i wanted to join the SONAR crew(as in you lot) but cakewalk can't seem to get their **** sorted out and thats simply not good enough...  Dude I totally agree! Sonar just completely blows, man! Hey, when you pick up your new G5 and the 32" cinema display, you're going to need kick arse monitoring. Right around the corner at the mall, there's a BOSE store. Now that's some serious monitoring, fella, let me tell you! Who needs JBL, KRK, or whatever... just go get yosef an Acoustimass system and you'll be good to go! Logic, Apple, Bose... all in one room, run by a serious professional. It just don't get no better than that. Corey
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2007/10/24 08:40:20
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ORIGINAL: lazarous ORIGINAL: steve austin Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW and all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7 not to mention Vista. how dare cakewalk advertise S7 as the ducks nuts and 64bit and all that crap when it is far from being stable and efficient. Over on the Mac side of things, LogicPro8 has just been released and it is 99% stable and bug free "ON RELEASE" and the new Leopard OS will be released this friday and it will give no such problems as Vista does, plus it will actually give a 35% increase in performance because Leopard has been totally optimised for intel multicore processors and it runs 32bit and 64bit applications simultaneously without any need for a so called bit bridge that cakewalk uses. I would have loved to jump on board with Sonar7 because it looked like a very good DAW with all its new plugs etc but Logic Pro8 has just lowered its price from $999 to $499 which makes it irresistable esspecially when i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro, and also i don't have to worry about other issues like drivers, bios, and certain obscure settings, but rather just load up and go.by the time LogicPro has its first update it will be100% bug free or as close as you could expect from any DAW. There is just too many problems and inconsistencies going on with the PC and vista and Sonar for me to even consider hoping on board. This is mainly cakewalks fault as they have the programmers and resourses to deal with this but alas what a mess they leave us in and they are so slow to do anything about it or come forth and admit things and openly discuss it. the only plugs that i would like to have in Logic when i buy it, is the V-vocal and the full version of the Rapture synth,well V-vocal is Sonar only so i miss out there but rapture is available as an audio unit for Mac so i will definitely get that, otherwise Logic Pro has more than i need to get the job done, as well as it's included mastering plugs which are truly world class and have been redesigned for the Pro8 version. The PC side of things from what i can see is nothing but hassles and i would rather be making music than trying to sort out UNECCESSARY problems all day long. nothing against you guys as i just want you to know that i wanted to join the SONAR crew(as in you lot) but cakewalk can't seem to get their **** sorted out and thats simply not good enough...  Dude I totally agree! Sonar just completely blows, man! Hey, when you pick up your new G5 and the 32" cinema display, you're going to need kick arse monitoring. Right around the corner at the mall, there's a BOSE store. Now that's some serious monitoring, fella, let me tell you! Who needs JBL, KRK, or whatever... just go get yosef an Acoustimass system and you'll be good to go! Logic, Apple, Bose... all in one room, run by a serious professional. It just don't get no better than that. Corey     - Greatness Corey
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 08:44:48
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I am very proud to say I don't have any Apple products what so ever. I don't have QTime I use a free non Apple QT clone for example. I will never own an Ipod or anything that Apple has anything to do with. I don't hate Apple just don't like the idea of Apple. I am also not much of a fan of the people that seem to like Apple. Not because they use it but they use it to bash everyone else. I do like that Apple exists so that MS will feel a little competition. Out side of that I have no use for Apple.
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2007/10/24 08:53:23
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I am more than satisfied with the performances and the innovations of Sonar7, under Vista32. Bonne chance!
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gordonrussell76
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2007/10/24 08:54:26
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Steve Jobs In Scotland a jobbie is a slang term for effluent. I rest my case. G
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2007/10/24 08:58:26
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I've got Sonar 7 running on my PC and Blakes 7 running on my Mac (UK joke)
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2007/10/24 09:07:38
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This is the part of his post that proves the six million dollar man is just a troll. There are far more positive comments and threads about Sonar than there are complaints in this forum. ORIGINAL: steve austin all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7
I have not changed my signature.
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ORIGINAL: kvr_fandango ORIGINAL: keith ORIGINAL: steve austin i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro Yes, it's magical. Magically delicious. It's like a frosty breakfast cereal. With a toy surprise inside. One cleaning bill winging it's way to you sir. Coffee and saliva all over the keyboard.  Cheers. I recommend disconnecting the keyboard, unscrewing the casing, and thoroughly rinsing the rubbery flap that the keys sit on. Perhaps consider one of these for future forum browsing:
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2007/10/24 09:44:09
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Hello, I'd like to point out to all who have replied - the OP owns neither Sonar nor Logic. So what exactly is the point and why reply? GK
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2007/10/24 09:50:22
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Hello, I'd like to point out to all who have replied - the OP owns neither Sonar nor Logic. So what exactly is the point and why reply? GK What? Are you sure? If so why the post? Paint me confused! That explains the hardware musician comment. Hammers are so much cheaper than pianos.
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2007/10/24 09:54:55
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I have to agree with Geokauf on this one. My only post was completely OT because I'm gosh-darn supersure that this guy is just a bait-and-leave doofus. And it seems he got what he wanted from all you PC/Sonar-apologist LOSERS!!! Oh well, at least I learned that Mike is a ballerina... I am having a lot fun here. I don't mind him posting because we need a diversion now and then. No need to attack him his post speaks for itself. So sit back and enjoy.
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2007/10/24 09:58:31
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That explains the hardware musician comment. Hammers are so much cheaper than pianos. I had a really nice musical hammer once. Very cool back in the day. Unfortunately, every time I tried to grab it to hammer out an idea for a song, it would take two steps back and yell "...Can't touch this!" I tried to return him to Guitar Center, but everytime I tried to hand him over to the salesman he would run and hide behind a stack of amps screaming "Too Legit to Quit...." Finally I just let him lie around in the closet until he was considered obsolete. Longest 15 minutes of my life...
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2007/10/24 10:00:34
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I had a really nice musical hammer once. Very cool back in the day. Unfortunately, every time I tried to grab it to hammer out an idea for a song, it would take two steps back and yell "...Can't touch this!" I tried to return him to Guitar Center, but everytime I tried to hand him over to the salesman he would run and hide behind a stack of amps screaming "Too Legit to Quit...." Finally I just let him lie around in the closet until he was considered obsolete. Longest 15 minutes of my life... LOL see what I mean. Nothing but fun here!
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2007/10/24 10:55:42
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ORIGINAL: gordonrussell76 Steve is your real name AXE? I think it may be Funny - I was thinking the same thing. ORIGINAL: gordonrussell76 "For a computer to work without any problems its functionality can only satisfy idiots" Hmmmm, so now we know what the "i" in iPod, iTunes, iPhone, etc. stands for.
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2007/10/24 11:08:32
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ORIGINAL: homebase Steve Austin You need to read these.... Logic Reality I was going to point to the same link. Interesting, some say, "It's great. Never crashes." others say, "It sucks. Crashes all the time." Kind of like the user forum for *any DAW software on the market.* There is no magic bullet. If you're fortunate and diligent you can have a solid rig that allows you to get work done. And, of course this guy is a troll. But it can be fun to have a little sport with 'em every now and then. Especially those so deluded as this dude.
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2007/10/24 11:11:13
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LOL see what I mean. Nothing but fun here! Yeah, the OP is dreaming...but I have to admit to sharing a significant degree of frustration over the whole state of DAW technology. I spent the better part of 2 years fighting hardware/software configurations, changing motherboards, power supplies, memory, processors, audio interfaces, firewire interfaces, video cards, OS tweaks, patches, Registry changes, manual .AUD file changes, driver upgrades/downgrades before I finally created a stable DAW. I've never used anything but Sonar. I'm fixed at 6.2.1 and have no plans to upgrade or ever use anything but Sonar. But the whole DAW experience has left me cold. And that has been anything but fun.
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2007/10/24 11:25:16
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I am going to use a line from my EverQuest days Can I have your stuff?
Michael Sonar 7 PE, XP Pro SP2, Q6600, 4 GB Ram, EMU 1212M. MCU Pro, Axiom 61, Trigger Finger
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