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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 11:40:38
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ORIGINAL: dbmusic LOL see what I mean. Nothing but fun here!
Yeah, the OP is dreaming...but I have to admit to sharing a significant degree of frustration over the whole state of DAW technology. I spent the better part of 2 years fighting hardware/software configurations, changing motherboards, power supplies, memory, processors, audio interfaces, firewire interfaces, video cards, OS tweaks, patches, Registry changes, manual .AUD file changes, driver upgrades/downgrades before I finally created a stable DAW. I've never used anything but Sonar. I'm fixed at 6.2.1 and have no plans to upgrade or ever use anything but Sonar. But the whole DAW experience has left me cold. And that has been anything but fun. We all have to realize that while we are users, we are also "pioneers and testers". This technology has come a long way in the past several years and is still a work in progress. I go back to the V20 and Commodore 64. To have what we have now is just amazing and will only get better!! Keep pushing the envelope!!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 11:46:05
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all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7 not to mention Vista. Well, for one thing, the purpose of this forum is to help people who are having problems. Its not a social gathering. Not all problems are faults with the Sonar software, but could be computer, Operating system, driver problems with soundcards or just plain user errors. As for Vista, that's a Microsoft problem and has little to do with Sonar, which does work with Vista assuming you can get Vista to work. Have you been to the Logic Forum? There's a lot of people in there having problems and asking questions too.
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 11:47:16
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I remember when some one suggested that I build my own studio. I looked at him puzzled and then thought to myself. that won't happen. Its an expensive game. The industry is fickle. This is not possible! The cost of building a DAW system or home studio is ridiculously cheap these days. I remember some people actually pulling the money together to buy a studio which cost thousands after being let down. Mixing and recording stuff. Now I am able to do the same with limited equipment, but equivalent results. OK this computer tech, music frenzy, freaky stuff also has its down sides. you have to be a comp wizard/geek to get on with it. When I looked at the Logic forums and seeing so many people complaining it made me think doesn't this happen with all of us (problems and problem solving in your application). I am happy that some are getting good results with there DAW. But. dont we all have the same problems. I am only happy, that there is limited amount of swearing in this forum!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 12:54:59
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Outlook...when I bought my first car it was not unlike my first computer. Didn't know much about either one. Due to not being wealthy I repaired my car when it broke. I didn't worry about the many issues that one may face, simply faced them head on and learned. Figuered it didn't matter really which car I drove...they all need attention. I've handled my quest in building my DAW with the same attitude. To the OP, in my opinion with your attitude you going to be traveling on a very bumpy road no matter what equipment you use. Just spaced out and had to add by 2cents.
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 13:06:45
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Overheard at a Dethklok concert: I am leaving SONAR because it is not BRUTAL ENOUGH! Nathan Explosion I ams leavinks its because its is nots FAST ENOUGH! Skwisgarr Skwigelf I ams leavinks its too because its is nots SECOND FAST ENOUGH! Toki Wartooth I am leaving SONAR because it is not HATEFUL ENOUGH! William Murderface I am leaving SONAR because it is not... Well I'm just leaving it. Pickles
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 13:16:20
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ORIGINAL: mike_mccue I got Logic running on my IPhone yesterday... I'm never looking back. And I on my IPod  ; damn IPod was good for 6 months twice told. IOWs: ... 99% of my problems are non-S7 related: i.e., sound-cards, mics, DACs, vocals, mixing, mastering, etc. S7 Rules for me! ... and has inspired me to learn-all-music! Thank you mates for helping my journey to learn-all-music with S7 as the hub!
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2007/10/24 13:20:26
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How can you leave some place you've never been? I guess I won't be going back to _______ anytime soon....
I'm using SOnar Platinium on a 6 core Lynx Audio machine and a ton of vintage pre-amps/eq's/comps I build for fun and sometimes money, REDD.47/API/Neve I also use the UAD stuff, and also use a Macbook Logic 9 through Apogee...
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 13:55:16
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ORIGINAL: Mick This is the part of his post that proves the six million dollar man is just a troll. There are far more positive comments and threads about Sonar than there are complaints in this forum. ORIGINAL: steve austin all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7
post edited by musicman100 - 2007/10/24 15:47:13
Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 13:56:51
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fixed it
post edited by musicman100 - 2007/10/24 15:47:43
Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 14:06:17
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I just tried it. I only removed the spaces before and after the link.
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 14:41:00
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Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW and all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7 not to mention Vista. how dare cakewalk advertise S7 as the ducks nuts and 64bit and all that crap when it is far from being stable and efficient. Over on the Mac side of things, LogicPro8 has just been released and it is 99% stable and bug free "ON RELEASE" and the new Leopard OS will be released this friday and it will give no such problems as Vista does, plus it will actually give a 35% increase in performance because Leopard has been totally optimised for intel multicore processors and it runs 32bit and 64bit applications simultaneously without any need for a so called bit bridge that cakewalk uses. I would have loved to jump on board with Sonar7 because it looked like a very good DAW with all its new plugs etc but Logic Pro8 has just lowered its price from $999 to $499 which makes it irresistable esspecially when i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro, and also i don't have to worry about other issues like drivers, bios, and certain obscure settings, but rather just load up and go.by the time LogicPro has its first update it will be100% bug free or as close as you could expect from any DAW. There is just too many problems and inconsistencies going on with the PC and vista and Sonar for me to even consider hoping on board. This is mainly cakewalks fault as they have the programmers and resourses to deal with this but alas what a mess they leave us in and they are so slow to do anything about it or come forth and admit things and openly discuss it. the only plugs that i would like to have in Logic when i buy it, is the V-vocal and the full version of the Rapture synth,well V-vocal is Sonar only so i miss out there but rapture is available as an audio unit for Mac so i will definitely get that, otherwise Logic Pro has more than i need to get the job done, as well as it's included mastering plugs which are truly world class and have been redesigned for the Pro8 version. The PC side of things from what i can see is nothing but hassles and i would rather be making music than trying to sort out UNECCESSARY problems all day long. nothing against you guys as i just want you to know that i wanted to join the SONAR crew(as in you lot) but cakewalk can't seem to get their **** sorted out and thats simply not good enough... After reading this guys post I think some people should apologize for calling me a troll. I may be a jerk, an ass, a douche bag, but I ain't that! I love Sonar!!!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 14:45:27
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I like the extreme run-on sentence. By the time I reached the end of it, I had forgotten the initial point. KEv
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2007/10/24 14:48:49
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ORIGINAL: torhan Let's go Rockies! Bleh
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 15:16:58
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I may country people says .. " Lady from MERCEDES , one horse power more !!!!! "
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 15:21:47
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Well said. ORIGINAL: Voxas I may country people says .. " Lady from MERCEDES , one horse power more !!!!! "
I have not changed my signature.
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2007/10/24 15:36:25
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I may country people says .. " Lady from MERCEDES , one horse power more !!!!! " Don Nelson says, "Labas!!! Laba diena!"
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 16:17:51
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ORIGINAL: vksf01 so this is how stable logic is http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1193157602874 That was a funny read... lots of anger and sarcasm... I love it. How 'bout this: "... stupid multi-threading error"? Can you spell "uh oh!"? Well, I just did... was going to avoid the temptation to go off and google the problems I know exist with every dot-0 release... but in this case I'm intrigued. Multi-threading error, you say??? I have to see this...
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 18:14:31
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I may be a jerk, an ass, a douche bag, but I ain't that! I love Sonar!!! So you have one redeeming quality after all!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 21:26:49
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So you have one redeeming quality after all! Apology accepted!
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2007/10/24 21:35:56
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Ah another MAC-ophile...funny these guys seem to have a similar rate of recidivism as pedophiles! I love my Mac...no really I love my Mac...no really...I...love...my...MAC
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 22:11:54
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Well Steve Austin you made some very good points. Thanks to your post I've just decided to take your word for it, and after I finish typing this I'm going to throw out this PC, my Sonar 7 and all my synths and plugs and I'm coming over to Mac and Logic world. Do you think $1000 will be enough to set me up with this superior DAW you speak of? You do guarantee the stability of this set up right, so if I have a problem can I call you to fix it for me? Thank you so much for opening my eyes. Mike
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 22:21:07
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ORIGINAL: Geokauf So what exactly is the point and why reply? It gives every forum member who thinks that they have something witty to say, an opportunity to chance their arm at comedy. ... and ... ORIGINAL: jinga8 Oh well, at least I learned that Mike is a ballerina... See ? It was worth it just for that ! You know, I do find the troll phenomenon very strange. To think that a person's life has become so bereft of pleasure that they derive satisfaction from teasing &/or insulting others. I think that's rather warped & not just a little sad. Right now, !@#% off you lot - Sonar sux - Logic pwns ya - yo momma !
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2007/10/24 22:22:20
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ORIGINAL: DumbKidFromHell I think some people should apologize for calling me a troll. I may be a jerk, an ass, a douche bag, but I ain't that! I love Sonar!!! Nah - I still prefer to think of you as an utter twat so no apology !
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2007/10/24 22:24:05
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99%? A perfect example of what hyperbole is. Sonar may have its problems (and I have experienced many), but it churns out good recording after recording and is all I ever need. Ciao! Arrivederci!
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RE: Sonar7 just not good enough, sorry guys bye bye
2007/10/24 22:29:53
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I heard from a friend of a friend "that a Mac will manipulate your tee-tee" AND "provide you with DAW nirvana" all for one simple "low low price". But I don't know if she's telling me the truth or not, she doesn't have a lot of exsprance!
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