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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 01:42:26
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I also wonder if Dave may have a badly calibrated monitor. I'm simply not seeing what Dave seems to see. The meter numbers are for me much easier to see in Tungsten then they were in Mercury. If you look at the screen shot I did of it here I think you will see how I see it. http://forum.cakewalk.com...in-Sonar-m3420096.aspx
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 02:39:07
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I myself have not run the CCC to update yet . Nor have I seen a screen shot of the new colors . Orange and Black is the traditional well loved classic color combo If you happen to ride a Harley  edit , just saw the new eZine screen shot ...the color combo looks like a Rat Bike done in black primer w an touch of orange ... Kenny
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 02:45:32
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2016/05/27 10:30:16
The OP makes no sense as the themes are customizable to a degree (you're not locked in to one color), and very soon they will be even more customizable.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 03:02:03
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Dave000
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All I see is you complaining to me about me complaining... lol I'm sorry if I don't have a sugar coat switch... ha! Facts are facts, it looks like what it is and I can't believe no one has commented on at least the meters... if you cant agree with me on that then I know your just kissing up to CW... Just tell me you can see the digits as good as you want to see them... anyone? Now that is a BS thing to say-we're kissing up to CW-well, I'm done with you-pretty obnoxious statement there . you pretty much are calling us ALL liars---so bye and have lots of fun with a;; the new friends I am sure you will make with that easy going attitude DAve000
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 03:37:08
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2016/05/27 14:13:20
Well, that's another one blocked... Aggression, offensiveness, bad manners, with poor spelling and punctuation to boot.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 04:00:20
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☄ Helpfulby JonD 2016/05/27 13:36:53
What I'm seeing here:
A lot of people like the theme. Some people don't. Some people hate it. It's all opinion, nothing to do with "facts." I'm personally not a huge fan of orange in themes, although overall I much prefer this to the original theme and it's become my new default. Should I say anyone who likes the orange colours are factually wrong? No. It's *my* preference. End.
The other thing I'm seeing here:
From this update on: We have a new theme to play with. From what's been said around the place, it's one of many coming, there'll eventually be a theme editor for us all to make our own themes and make up as many reasons as to what we think is a good GUI or not as we like, and even with this first theme it's simply just a start. It'd be a hell of a process going through and setting up such a well established program like SONAR to swap out UI elements on the fly. Also in this update is the ability to go back to the original theme and pretend this never happened, and just enjoy all of the other bug fixes and enhancements that we're getting far more regularly than we ever did in the history of the product.
Prior to this update: We had the original theme with no option for anyone who may prefer it to be different, and no start on giving us the tools to change it at all.
I can't see how this is a stamp your foot and be angry thing. We're now GAINING something great that if it doesn't work for you, you can entirely ignore it, despite a lot of people are genuinely finding it useful (whether anyone might think they're insane or not).
It's like getting a free room tacked onto your house that you don't ever need to go into and use if you don't want, or if you hate the colour scheme. Me? I prefer to know I have the option of having the extra space available, and knowing that down the track, I can paint this room whatever colour I like. It's all win.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 04:18:54
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☄ Helpfulby backwoods 2016/05/27 04:39:46
I don't log into here often although I do read the comments sometimes (like after an update/upgrade etc.).
I had to log on today to say "I LOVE IT" and Dave0000 should use less colorful language when expressing his views and opinions. That way we would not get "up each other's backs" ...
Tone it down, guys.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 04:25:18
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oh please, get over yourselves! dave doesn't like it, so what?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 04:25:19
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Dave000
Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets!
I really like the new theme. Even if I didn't, I am not sure your suggestion would help.  "A pallet /ˈpælᵻt/ is a flat transport structure that supports goods in a stable fashion while being lifted by a forklift, pallet jack ..."
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 04:59:48
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Having been working away from home for a month or two, I'm delighted to arrive home and find the latest Platinum updates, Melodyne 4 (now upgraded to the Editor version) and the new UI theme which looks great on my system.
The Tungsten colour scheme is a natural choice for the first theme as it matches both the Command Centre UI and the Cakewalk logo, and is very easy on the eyes. Nice work :-)
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 05:01:49
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Dave000
All I see is you complaining to me about me complaining... lol
I'm sorry if I don't have a sugar coat switch... ha! Facts are facts, it looks like what it is and I can't believe no one has commented on at least the meters... if you cant agree with me on that then I know your just kissing up to CW... Just tell me you can see the digits as good as you want to see them... anyone?
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i will have a look after i update to the official final and let you know about the meter thing, i didn't take much notice only to the overall look. as i say sonar is not my main daw and i have no emotional attachment to it or the company, no disrespect to either
well i rechecked after updating the early release to the the final version and the meters/digits look fine, i can't see a problem, very see able even with my not so good eyesight. i couldn't in all honesty say i can see anything as good as i want to see it, but that is called getting old
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 05:02:58
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Put it this way, there's no way I'm going back to Mercury......
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 05:19:38
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Hi:)
Thungsten is amazing!! I love it. Very good to my eyes, I can see all knobs better, I can read better.
Very similar to the Dark Theme of Duckbar. Cause Duckbar at the moment doesn't work, great to have Thungsten Theme:)
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:16:22
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Everyone has different views. Its okay if you dont like it. I am sure there will be someone else too sharing your view. But this thread looks like a troll thread is't it. When everyone's happy abt something you can just start a thread naming it as UGLY :D that will cause lot of fuzz. There are 2-3 dedicated threads already were people are extensively discussing about the new UI. You could have just posted your comment there. That would have been right.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:17:00
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Dave000
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Dave000
once again, I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that... so far SPlat, it looks like crap! and what the Bakers have done to fix it has done nothing to fix it... and they would have not tried to fix it if they thought it was good in the first place...
As I said, they need an artist who can put out a theme a day and stop paying a programmer for a half a theme a season...
but you are complaining.
see there is a way to voice your opinion without insulting cakewalks programmers and developers.
this is a great forum we have here, people jump at the chance to help others.
and the time frame is faster then any other site i have ever been a part of. your not waiting days for someone to answer a post about a problem you may have.
but when you present your opinions in such negative fashions, it is complaining.
theres a way to do it with grace.
like i said, i love this new them and i think by reading the reply's from this thread, not 1 person agrees with your view on thinking this theme is a waste.
be happy, make good music and good luck
All I see is you complaining to me about me complaining... lol
I'm sorry if I don't have a sugar coat switch... ha! Facts are facts, it looks like what it is and I can't believe no one has commented on at least the meters... if you cant agree with me on that then I know your just kissing up to CW... Just tell me you can see the digits as good as you want to see them... anyone?
I can see them just fine and have no idea what your talking about. are you using an CRT monitor   seriously though, try using the default settings on your monitor. good luck.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:17:38
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Michele
I believe Dave000 is really Dave Trump, Donald's lost brother. His comments sound very familiar. Maybe he should switch to decaf. Really dude, does Tungsten bother you that much? How do you handle real issues in life?
WOW! Thank you! Dave Trump!
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:23:25
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Dave000
Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets!
I really like the new theme. Even if I didn't, I am not sure your suggestion would help.
"A pallet /ˈpælᵻt/ is a flat transport structure that supports goods in a stable fashion while being lifted by a forklift, pallet jack ..."
YUP! my head moves too fast to care! auto correct gets me all the time! and that's all you got! lol
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:24:05
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pwalpwal
oh please, get over yourselves! dave doesn't like it, so what?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:25:43
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SONARtist
I don't log into here often although I do read the comments sometimes (like after an update/upgrade etc.).
I had to log on today to say "I LOVE IT" and Dave0000 should use less colorful language when expressing his views and opinions. That way we would not get "up each other's backs" ...
Tone it down, guys.
lol, well in the US we have that freedom of speech thing going on so... yea... ;)
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:26:22
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Instead of arguing for a whole thread, why not explain to people how to change the colors and save the new look of their custom themes? Colors can still be changed I would imagine! This back and forth doesn't get us anywhere close to getting answers on how to customize the theme!! We learn much more here trying to help rather than using the space to vent anger over an issue that may well be corrected by just adjusting some colors for your personal look. I'm glad to see that more themes will be coming down the pike for us.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 07:46:45
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John
I also wonder if Dave may have a badly calibrated monitor. I'm simply not seeing what Dave seems to see. The meter numbers are for me much easier to see in Tungsten then they were in Mercury.
If you look at the screen shot I did of it here I think you will see how I see it. http://forum.cakewalk.com...in-Sonar-m3420096.aspx
Well it's more then one system so... but I guess I can say that as a pro 2d/3d ARTIST as well as selling hundreds of painting within the US that one summer just for fun, I know what I like and yea, taste or lack of can sets a theme... Some have taste... utility is utility and the old theme and the new theme are the same to me... I set my theme back to the old one, meters are no better, so I changed them as I have always done with older Sonar ver. as well... Just can't change many things that I could un the past... Bakers, just give me ONE theme that I can see everything on out of the oven... that's all I ask! I set this post to say how I feel about the skin (UI) and I really don't care what others think... just a mild diversion to my life... ;) HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND folks! Remember the troops!
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 08:26:34
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Dave000, why are so certain that the programmers created the theme? Noel mentioned Cakewalk's graphic designers in another thread, so they do have artists available. As a software developer myself, I'd be surprised if Cakewalk had a developer or two create this theme.
I have no problem with you not liking the theme (there's a few things about it I'd change, and will when Cakewalk supplies the needed tools). But you're bashing the developers without knowing anything about what they actually did is not cool.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 08:28:05
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Dave000
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I don't log into here often although I do read the comments sometimes (like after an update/upgrade etc.).
I had to log on today to say "I LOVE IT" and Dave0000 should use less colorful language when expressing his views and opinions. That way we would not get "up each other's backs" ...
Tone it down, guys.
lol, well in the US we have that freedom of speech thing going on so... yea... ;)
Having freedom of speech does not give you carte blanche to say exactly what you want to who you want. Well, you can try but don't be surprised if people react accordingly.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 08:37:54
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i found after a very short time the things that seemed a little off to me, and that i immediately took a dislike to, ie the orange (and some other bits), i don't even notice any longer and are no longer objectionable
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 08:44:35
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Dave000
BTW... people not in the software field don't realize that most programmers don't believe that they need artists...
FACT!
All I can say is your initial statement of programmers making up the UI is incorrect. This was done by a graphic artist that's been very active in our space. What developers do spend time on is integrating and building features as well as revising existing features to improve them. My group lives in the IDE working with C++ days/nights, not in Photoshop. Keith
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 08:58:56
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This is how I see the meter default.  Though I sit at least 5 feet away... Carry on...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 09:09:07
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Dave000
Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!?
and nothing else looks right together... lol
Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
I can't believe there are 2 pages of follow-up comments legitimizing this post. . .
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 09:19:14
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Dave000
Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!?
and nothing else looks right together... lol
Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
I can't believe there are 2 pages of follow-up comments legitimizing this post. . .
Everyone has that need to bash the TROLL.... even you. lol
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 09:30:32
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Is this the new debate fred?
Fact vs. opinion?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 09:39:03
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Dave000
This is how I see the meter default.
Though I sit at least 5 feet away...
Carry on...
I'll admit, that is very hard to see. I'm using the segmented meters which are clear and easy to see. I'm not sure that's how the solid meters are supposed to look. Someone using solid meters will have to comment. There's been some color issues with menus for some people. Maybe this is related.
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