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UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!? and nothing else looks right together... lol Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 22:27:06
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☄ Helpfulby slyman 2016/05/27 09:58:08
Dave000 Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!? and nothing else looks right together... lol Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
Most user feedback has been very positive. I love the new theme. I wouldn't expect every theme to appeal to everyone. Cake has already said future releases will give us tools to make our own. Then you'll be able to show off your own artistic talents. In the meanwhile, if you don't like it you can always just not use it. Or you can start more rants ridiculing things you don't like (even though, based purely on observation of feedback from forum users) you appear to be in the minority.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 22:46:54
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All I see it the peanut gallery reply's, nothing from the hundreds of users... Black & orange is not a theme when nothing else is in contrast. and as far as changing it back... that's a no! all you can change is the contrast of the black and orange! bright, dark, mono, normal. I guess the biggest point is that the UI hype was just that hype. As far as CW predicted what the UI will become! You're talking about a few hours of work by a real artist to complete many real themes OR a few thousand dollars to pay a programmer over the spring just to get black and orange! ...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 22:50:00
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☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2016/05/27 15:55:15
Hmmm-This is weird because I just logged in to comment on the UI when I saw this post. What I was going to say is- Thank You Cake--For this old guy-Everything just seems much, much clearer-almost akin to a mix where everything sits well and can be heard. I see better than I have in a while. I am not so much talking colors-but the default-even the orange -everything seems much sharper - more defined. I guess maybe this only helps old guys like me but I love it. Lots of definition. Just my 2 cents
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 22:53:03
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☄ Helpfulby aghschwabe 2016/05/29 18:14:12
Comments positive or negative all have merit. I'm in the positive, "wow" finally! side of the comments. Huge improvement to my eyes.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 22:54:03
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BTW... people not in the software field don't realize that most programmers don't believe that they need artists... FACT!
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:03:28
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Bigwig uses same color scheme -- edit, bitwig
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:03:32
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Dave000 All I see it the peanut gallery reply's, nothing from the hundreds of users... Black & orange is not a theme when nothing else is in contrast. and as far as changing it back... that's a no! all you can change is the contrast of the black and orange! bright, dark, mono, normal. I guess the biggest point is that the UI hype was just that hype. As far as CW predicted what the UI will become! You're talking about a few hours of work by a real artist to complete many real themes OR a few thousand dollars to pay a programmer over the spring just to get black and orange! ...
As a matter of fact, you can change it back. There is now a Theme setting in preferences. You may keep the new look or select the original in preferences. Right now it's not as good as the tools that Panu has, but it's a start. I'm thinking that improvements will become part of the monthly updates.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:06:17
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stratman70 Hmmm-This is weird because I just logged in to comment on the UI when I saw this post. What I was going to say is- Thank You Cake--For this old guy-Everything just seems much, much clearer-almost akin to a mix where everything sits well and can be heard. I see better than I have in a while. I am not so much talking colors-but the default-even the orange -everything seems much sharper - more defined. I guess maybe this only helps old guys like me but I love it. Lots of definition. Just my 2 cents
yea right, tell me right now that you can see the meter digits well in smoky white and smoky gray...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:09:26
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Dave000
stratman70 Hmmm-This is weird because I just logged in to comment on the UI when I saw this post. What I was going to say is- Thank You Cake--For this old guy-Everything just seems much, much clearer-almost akin to a mix where everything sits well and can be heard. I see better than I have in a while. I am not so much talking colors-but the default-even the orange -everything seems much sharper - more defined. I guess maybe this only helps old guys like me but I love it. Lots of definition. Just my 2 cents
yea right, tell me right now that you can see the meter digits well in smoky white and smoky gray...
So change it-why so emotional and negative towards other users opinions? Do you think I am lying in my post above? Jeeezzzzzz--lighten up pal.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:10:08
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Dave000 All I see it the peanut gallery reply's, nothing from the hundreds of users... Black & orange is not a theme when nothing else is in contrast. and as far as changing it back... that's a no! all you can change is the contrast of the black and orange! bright, dark, mono, normal. I guess the biggest point is that the UI hype was just that hype. As far as CW predicted what the UI will become! You're talking about a few hours of work by a real artist to complete many real themes OR a few thousand dollars to pay a programmer over the spring just to get black and orange! ...
As a matter of fact, you can change it back. There is now a Theme setting in preferences. You may keep the new look or select the original in preferences. Right now it's not as good as the tools that Panu has, but it's a start. I'm thinking that improvements will become part of the monthly updates.
thanks for the info, I'll look into it. :) But like I said... the fix need not be months! it's a day a theme for an artist! Not a theme a season for a programmer...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:11:58
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☄ Helpfulby Midiboy 2016/06/01 16:44:35
Dave000 Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!? and nothing else looks right together... lol Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
How bout commentators who understand the difference between pallet and palette? For my .02 cents I think it looks awesome and easy to see due to the contrasts.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:12:29
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Dave000
stratman70 Hmmm-This is weird because I just logged in to comment on the UI when I saw this post. What I was going to say is- Thank You Cake--For this old guy-Everything just seems much, much clearer-almost akin to a mix where everything sits well and can be heard. I see better than I have in a while. I am not so much talking colors-but the default-even the orange -everything seems much sharper - more defined. I guess maybe this only helps old guys like me but I love it. Lots of definition. Just my 2 cents I have no emotion in this, lol that's how you read it... I just know what I see in the UI is... and know what it could be. so I said so... lol just as always...
yea right, tell me right now that you can see the meter digits well in smoky white and smoky gray...
So change it-why so emotional and negative towards other users opinions? Do you think I am lying in my post above? Jeeezzzzzz
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:15:40
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Dave000 Really? Maybe the bakers should consider getting an artist who understands pallets! It's apparent to me that a programmer is trying to get SpLat to look good... Yea! That's NOT going to work! Orange and black... Halloween!? and nothing else looks right together... lol Maybe you should start over with a basic UI in black, white and levels for grey as the default then the user can chose a base color/s to fill in the greys. Cakewalk, you want the best!? it needs to look the best and the person you have messing it up now cannot get it done! YOU NEED an ARTIST!
yea spelling and auto check do me in.. lol But you too, Tell me you can see the meter digits...
How bout commentators who understand the difference between pallet and palette? For my .02 cents I think it looks awesome and easy to see due to the contrasts.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:19:09
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So now you're going to block my reply's? and it's my post! and I'm having a conversation.... if people don't want to hear what I say, then they can NOT talk to me...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:23:31
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☄ Helpfulby aghschwabe 2016/05/29 18:15:58
Dave000
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Dave000 All I see it the peanut gallery reply's, nothing from the hundreds of users... Black & orange is not a theme when nothing else is in contrast. and as far as changing it back... that's a no! all you can change is the contrast of the black and orange! bright, dark, mono, normal. I guess the biggest point is that the UI hype was just that hype. As far as CW predicted what the UI will become! You're talking about a few hours of work by a real artist to complete many real themes OR a few thousand dollars to pay a programmer over the spring just to get black and orange! ...
As a matter of fact, you can change it back. There is now a Theme setting in preferences. You may keep the new look or select the original in preferences. Right now it's not as good as the tools that Panu has, but it's a start. I'm thinking that improvements will become part of the monthly updates.
thanks for the info, I'll look into it. :)
youll look in to it ?  you mean don't you know ? you want to come criticize sonars new theme but you don't even know you can change themes ? lol. i can respect the fact that every one has their own opinion but im not even sure what your complaining about ? we have the option to switch back and forth from the new theme to the old theme. i think its a great start by cakewalk and so far comments, reviews have been very positive. its like using a whole new DAW. i love it
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:26:35
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Yoda, thanks for pointing me to the themes, I flew right by them to colors... :) and the "illusion" of a new theme will seem to look better then and old theme... now after looking into the black theme for a few days set it back and see what you think....
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:34:01
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☄ Helpfulby ashtangakasha 2016/05/27 09:47:04
Well, I'm a programmer and I work with UX and UI folks all the time. One thing I can tell you from my 30+ years in software dev is, you can never please everybody, and if you wait a couple years between cycles, tastes swing like a pendulum, light to dark, dark to light, colorful to muted, etc. Personally, I too like the new dark theme very much, and popped in to say as much, so thanks for the opportunity. Being a Cake user since the DOS days, I can say with confidence that it only gets better and better and I am thankful for all these amazing years working with this outstanding software. Do I have a list of gripes? You betcha, but that's life. My car isn't as awesome as I would like it to be, and I could use another ****-ton of guitars, but... I still love what I've got :) Lum
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:34:17
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once again, I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that... so far SPlat, it looks like crap! and what the Bakers have done to fix it has done nothing to fix it... and they would have not tried to fix it if they thought it was good in the first place... As I said, they need an artist who can put out a theme a day and stop paying a programmer for a half a theme a season...
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:34:57
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I love Halloween! May be I'll put some pumpkins as my wallpaper. BOO! Davey Boy! I think this Theme is like someone turned the lights on. Spot on! Love it. I am sure there will be other Themes in the future. Just change it to Mercury if you don't like it. Why complain about something you can change?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:44:52
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Steve Lum Well, I'm a programmer and I work with UX and UI folks all the time. One thing I can tell you from my 30+ years in software dev is, you can never please everybody, and if you wait a couple years between cycles, tastes swing like a pendulum, light to dark, dark to light, colorful to muted, etc. Personally, I too like the new dark theme very much, and popped in to say as much, so thanks for the opportunity. Being a Cake user since the DOS days, I can say with confidence that it only gets better and better and I am thankful for all these amazing years working with this outstanding software. Do I have a list of gripes? You betcha, but that's life. My car isn't as awesome as I would like it to be, and I could use another ****-ton of guitars, but... I still love what I've got :) Lum
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:45:04
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☄ Helpfulby Mystic38 2016/05/28 21:45:11
Dave000 once again, I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that... so far SPlat, it looks like crap! and what the Bakers have done to fix it has done nothing to fix it... and they would have not tried to fix it if they thought it was good in the first place... As I said, they need an artist who can put out a theme a day and stop paying a programmer for a half a theme a season...
Dave000 Of course you may voice your opinion- But your opinion is just that....AS I said I have been CW for a long time-the 2006 is just this forum. We had others way before this. Anyway after the update I really saw a very big difference. I wear glasses and the contrast, definition, whatever you want to call it was immediately noticeable for me-in a very positive way. I will not tire of it-I tired of all the changes I have tried to make over the years to get this clarity. I am not trying to start an argument but please give the rest of us a little credit...We don't think it "looks like crap" sorry. And please check the join dates of the people that have commented so far-even though only a few at this point. Not like we are new to the game. I hope you get it set to something that makes you a bit happier. Also yes I can see the meters fin e-I did change the Marker color immediately in the TV.
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:45:48
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☄ Helpfulby Mystic38 2016/05/28 21:45:16
Dave000 once again, I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that... so far SPlat, it looks like crap! and what the Bakers have done to fix it has done nothing to fix it... and they would have not tried to fix it if they thought it was good in the first place... As I said, they need an artist who can put out a theme a day and stop paying a programmer for a half a theme a season...
but you are complaining. see there is a way to voice your opinion without insulting cakewalks programmers and developers. this is a great forum we have here, people jump at the chance to help others. and the time frame is faster then any other site i have ever been a part of. your not waiting days for someone to answer a post about a problem you may have. but when you present your opinions in such negative fashions, it is complaining. theres a way to do it with grace. like i said, i love this new them and i think by reading the reply's from this thread, not 1 person agrees with your view on thinking this theme is a waste. be happy, make good music and good luck
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:48:58
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Meno I love Halloween! May be I'll put some pumpkins as my wallpaper. BOO! Davey Boy!  I think this Theme is like someone turned the lights on. Spot on! Love it. I am sure there will be other Themes in the future. Just change it to Mercury if you don't like it. Why complain about something you can change?
Yea I hate orange as a rule.. ;) lol... but I can see it's like CW's fab color... lol
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:54:34
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i don't think and wouldn't say it looks like crap, i wasn't sure about some of the color choices myself, but hey, i still think it looks quite good. it reminds me very much of a couple of reaper custom themes. the only time people will ever be 100% pleased by something is when they have the ability to change the bits they don't like to be how they want them. if you are like me and couldn't really be bothered nor have the desire to be learning to do that and would prefer to be playing and recording you take what you get, get use to it and carry on. sonar isn't even my main daw and i don't use it much any longer, but i do think the lifetime membership is pretty awesome (i jumped on that straight away), and this latest release seems pretty good (although i haven't installed the final official yet, just the early release), the first time i have updated since manchester. i still stay with my other daw and keep an eye on sonar, after all in for life now with no added extra cost (extras excluded)
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/26 23:56:04
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Dave000 once again, I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that... so far SPlat, it looks like crap! and what the Bakers have done to fix it has done nothing to fix it... and they would have not tried to fix it if they thought it was good in the first place... As I said, they need an artist who can put out a theme a day and stop paying a programmer for a half a theme a season...
but you are complaining. see there is a way to voice your opinion without insulting cakewalks programmers and developers. this is a great forum we have here, people jump at the chance to help others. and the time frame is faster then any other site i have ever been a part of. your not waiting days for someone to answer a post about a problem you may have. but when you present your opinions in such negative fashions, it is complaining. theres a way to do it with grace. like i said, i love this new them and i think by reading the reply's from this thread, not 1 person agrees with your view on thinking this theme is a waste. be happy, make good music and good luck
All I see is you complaining to me about me complaining... lol I'm sorry if I don't have a sugar coat switch... ha! Facts are facts, it looks like what it is and I can't believe no one has commented on at least the meters... if you cant agree with me on that then I know your just kissing up to CW... Just tell me you can see the digits as good as you want to see them... anyone?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 00:05:13
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The Grim i don't think and wouldn't say it looks like crap, i wasn't sure about some of the color choices myself, but hey, i still think it looks quite good. it reminds me very much of a couple of reaper custom themes. the only time people will ever be 100% pleased by something is when they have the ability to change the bits they don't like to be how they want them. if you are like me and couldn't really be bothered nor have the desire to be learning to do that and would prefer to be playing and recording you take what you get, get use to it and carry on. sonar isn't even my main daw and i don't use it much any longer, but i do think the lifetime membership is pretty awesome (i jumped on that straight away), and this latest release seems pretty good (although i haven't installed the final official yet, just the early release), the first time i have updated since manchester. i still stay with my other daw and keep an eye on sonar, after all in for life now with no added extra cost (extras excluded)
Hey, yea just let me work! but when I booted 2016. 5... man what I see was mush... I reset the meters myself and that fine, and I will fish though the weeds and be happy creating! :) so that makes me happy. but sometime CW needs to know what people other then the peanut gallery things... BTW, I have been really happy with lots of stuff coming out... :) but I don't normally waste my days here telling the world... CW is so close now to perfection in my view for my needs that, I want to push at them and poke them to get the UI to ROCK! as I am just hanging at home, multi tasking on here and with other stuff... more just for fun then anything... got a busy few weeks of nothing going on but fun! and it started here! lol
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 00:05:26
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Dave000 All I see is you complaining to me about me complaining... lol I'm sorry if I don't have a sugar coat switch... ha! Facts are facts, it looks like what it is and I can't believe no one has commented on at least the meters... if you cant agree with me on that then I know your just kissing up to CW... Just tell me you can see the digits as good as you want to see them... anyone?
i will have a look after i update to the official final and let you know about the meter thing, i didn't take much notice only to the overall look. as i say sonar is not my main daw and i have no emotional attachment to it or the company, no disrespect to either
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Viamichael
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 00:37:59
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I believe Dave000 is really Dave Trump, Donald's lost brother. His comments sound very familiar. Maybe he should switch to decaf. Really dude, does Tungsten bother you that much? How do you handle real issues in life?
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Re: UGLY UI... SpLat 2016.5
2016/05/27 00:39:22
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☄ Helpfulby slyman 2016/05/27 10:34:22
Everyone has different views. Its okay if you dont like it. I am sure there will be someone else too sharing your view. But this thread looks like a troll thread is't it. When everyone's happy abt something you can just start a thread naming it as UGLY :D that will cause lot of fuzz. There are 2-3 dedicated threads already were people are extensively discussing about the new UI. You could have just posted your comment there. That would have been right.
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