John T

 This is incorrect; you can see one being used in the X2 webinar, for example.

Hi again John.... been looking... can you tell me where they use the controller? I've skimmed through most of the webinar and watched a lot of it and can't find the use. I can see it sitting there but can't find where they actually use it for anything?


Am I looking at the wrong video maybe? Is there another one somewhere or am I missing it??


Gotta say there are some GREAT features in X2 though.. Rmix looks good and the new reverb I watched on another video also...reverb sounds killer.


Cheers.

Thanks Dahjah... I actually had my hope up!

Cheers.

PS: the webinar showed some stuff I thought was good though so I've bought the upgrade tonight and will give X2 a chance with the 700... fingers crossed I don't want to throw it out the window like last time.

I kinda find strange that all these really nice features in X2 (and even X1) are related to faster access with the mouse and more efficient keyboard/mouse combo, while we have a equivalent on the console: dedicated buttons and the cursor.

The mouse we have with the console is the edit cursor. I'm not sure why we can't move between track scenario (midi, tracks, lanes, etc) like Seth show in the X2 videos.

Clicking some areas bring focus to certain function (zoom, drag/drop, select, etc) or to certain aspects (piano roll, enveloppe/automations, etc) and we have buttons for all this on the console.  

We even have one more modifier key (COMMAND) than a computer keyboard, which should logically multiply the possible options.  

I'm sure everything can be integrated. I mean every single new aspects. Auto-zoom, lanes show/hide/add/remove, EASY multiple time/clip selection (not sure why it is not implemented yet), alternate snap settting, etc. I mean this is ALL within reach.

+1 Dyo.... you raise a valid point/detail that 'maybe' has been not yet revealed? Perhaps X2 being what it is now 'may' permit the final solutions we have craved.

If only... ?

Cheers!

Hey funboy this sounds very UNfun.

Def not the way it should be and sounds like something is possibly corrupt software wise. I would not be suspecting X2 as the culprit.

I would be uninstalling the 700 drivers and reinstalling them.

At least you've sent the dumps off...

Cheers.

Cake are definitely asleep at the wheel and given recent changes, there is a lot to wonder about IMO Bent.

You can easily see why PT is the king....alas....and it does pain me to say so but please show me an alternate reality. If only they could actually get their crap together....? Oh well...? Roland is not making money and here are the consequences?

Perchance but to dream....

Cheers.

Roland/CW has really shot themselves in the foot with the VS though. They will never again be able to develop and sell another control surface for Sonar because of the terrible reputation they are getting from the lack of support on the current surfaces. Many people who expected to be using the VS for years are all considering alternate options which in many cases is also taking them away from Sonar. I know I'm in that crowd, looking at alternatives considering CW's silence and the reply I got back from Roland on the issue. I'm getting ready to throw in the towel and move on after being with CW for many years.

  I probably do a little research on other DAW's and hardware options once or twice a week as I feel it may really be time to move on.

Hmmm... I want to be able to use my V700 system with any DAW.  That would be a serious gamechanger in DAW land.  If the Nucleus can do it, the V700 should be able to as well. Imagine... Your V700 system running Cake, Cuebase, and PT sessions and floating between them.

+1 for Fantom 64 bit operation. It's been a while....

Hi Zeth

I reckon you read a lot of negative posts lately, so you are aware of the current state of the VS-700 when it comes to using X1d or X2 

Mind you, mackie control will give you a similar headache as it suffers from very similar problems (lack of integration with ProChannel). Comparing just the control surface the MCU is about 2/3 of the price of the VS-700C. I'm sure you were looking at the entire set when quoting the £3400; the MCU does not come with any I/O as the VS-700R does.  Anyway, you may get the set cheaper if you care to look for a display model or get it used from one of the folks here on the forum.

Whether to buy or not to buy the VS-700 with its current lack of integration is your call afterall. I purchased mine half a year ago after a lot of research in this price range and do not regret it (I tracked down a brand new display model).

If unsure, wait until we see X2b / X2c since lots of users are waiting for control surface fixes ... and we have no idea if Cake is working on these at all ...

Don't feel that way , actually ther's nothing better ..if it was the case , i would be with you on this one !

Presently, the v700 console is basically a set of faders and a transport section. For the cost of the thing, that is a joke. Especially given that it was sold specifically on "tight integration". Support for the thing is wretched. This is the thing that will finally make me switch from Sonar, if it's not sorted out. 

Even if the unit were discontinued, that would be no real excuse for these trivial and immediately obvious bugs to arise. But the thing is still on sale. So right now, you can buy the flagship Sonar branded software and hardware, and they're not compatible. If there's any reasonable excuse for this, I've not yet heard it. 

Guys I hate the fact we're this peeved. I sincerely hope you guys are still able to get work done despite all this nay-saying. Here there is a large 3rd party project to complete and it's been quite difficult to focus on it coz everything seems so out of shape now.... but maybe that's just me not taking it on the chin and getting used to the mouse more again.

Then again, what did I but this surface for?

Has anyone had a bug report update at all? Any sort of feedback or response from Cake?