Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

 

Yeah it's a fascinating read. One very interesting aspect is how the stuff comes together: elaborate demo, then some aspects replaced with material recorded in multiple studios, "assembled", mixed and mastered in Wilson's home studio, little or no outboard gear, no console, etc. When I first learned of his recording setup and methods I was kind of shocked.

And many nuggets of wisdom sprinkled throughout.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

May I also ask this? What is with the level of cynicism and mistrust that finds its way into just about everything here? Why is it curious that employees offer opinions and insights into what they think is important, or just cool/fun/etc,  in today's world of recording? It's a blog post. Some see evil machinations in everything. If anything it's only to call attention to the blog and inform about Cakewalk and recording in general. It's intended to be useful information for the reader, whether a SONAR user or not.

Yeah we're trying to sell subs so we pre-empted with a blog post about subs. C'mon - that's silly.

Beagle

trimph1


Thanks for all the reference material!!

You see, my issue right now is that the house we are living in is also a boombox of its own sort. Being all wood and a fair bit of horsehair(yes, that stuff) plaster we keep the levels down here, All rooms have sort of crown moulding as well as the deep baseboards so it is a bit of a challenge. 

Can anyone suggest, say, a means of testing the acoustics in that room? I'm looking at a measurement mic for example...any ideas?

measurement mic:  Behringer ECM-8000 (I just sold mine on ebay a few months ago because I didn't need it any more).
 
for how to do the measurements, read thru this thread by bitflipper.  plenty of great info there on how to measure your room using SPAN and how to build DIY traps.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?&m=1495170&mpage=1

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk
]

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

May I also ask this? What is with the level of cynicism and mistrust that finds its way into just about everything here? Why is it curious that employees offer opinions and insights into what they think is important, or just cool/fun/etc,  in today's world of recording? It's a blog post. Some see evil machinations in everything. If anything it's only to call attention to the blog and inform about Cakewalk and recording in general. It's intended to be useful information for the reader, whether a SONAR user or not.

Yeah we're trying to sell subs so we pre-empted with a blog post about subs. C'mon - that's silly.

Actually Brandon, I was going to mention that I have about 10 subs sitting in the back of a van that need a home. I can offer a great price, just don't ask me where I got them. Anyone else interested, please PM me.
 
PS- I am kidding. Seriously, the blog is not the official word of Cakewalk. It's a place for employees to share ideas, tips, and thoughts with other folks. Mike T. believes in subs. That's his opinion. Others may not share that and are free to disagree or put forth better options. The Blog is meant to be fun and informative - anyone insinutating anything different is wrong.
 
BTW, I just posted a new thread about acoustic treatments. And before anyone asks - NO we are not selling acoustic panels or power tools.
 
On a related note, this bad boy could be had for the right price. PM me!
 
 

ba_midi

bitflipper


Wow. Four pages on the subject of whether or not you need a subwoofer! Excellent. (Actually, anything other than another thread about the Concrete Limiter is welcome.)

I use a sub. It came with a footswitch to turn it on and off. But I never turned it off, so I re-purposed the switch for something else. The sub is really great for blowin' stuff up in Halo.

If you think you need a sub, I can give you reasoned arguments to justify that purchase. If you suspect a sub would be a waste of money you don't have, I can make equally compelling arguments to talk you out of it.

Can you give me reasoned arguments why not to have a drink yet? 

FastBikerBoy

ba_midi

bitflipper


Wow. Four pages on the subject of whether or not you need a subwoofer! Excellent. (Actually, anything other than another thread about the Concrete Limiter is welcome.)

I use a sub. It came with a footswitch to turn it on and off. But I never turned it off, so I re-purposed the switch for something else. The sub is really great for blowin' stuff up in Halo.

If you think you need a sub, I can give you reasoned arguments to justify that purchase. If you suspect a sub would be a waste of money you don't have, I can make equally compelling arguments to talk you out of it.

Can you give me reasoned arguments why not to have a drink yet? 

I'd try Billy but given that it's only 7 pm here and I'm 3/4s of the way through a bottle of home made red wine I can't think of any. I expect the tosh levels to rise considerably this evening if I continue.........

ba_midi

bitflipper


Wow. Four pages on the subject of whether or not you need a subwoofer! Excellent. (Actually, anything other than another thread about the Concrete Limiter is welcome.)

I use a sub. It came with a footswitch to turn it on and off. But I never turned it off, so I re-purposed the switch for something else. The sub is really great for blowin' stuff up in Halo.

If you think you need a sub, I can give you reasoned arguments to justify that purchase. If you suspect a sub would be a waste of money you don't have, I can make equally compelling arguments to talk you out of it.

Can you give me reasoned arguments why not to have a drink yet? 

bitflipper

The sub is really great for blowin' stuff up in Halo.

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

So I was driving home from the grocery store tonight as I was listening to NFL Radio over satellite. The talk show had an ex-player on as a guest host who's voice over was incredibly boomy, so much so that every plosive sounded like an 808 sub kick bass through my car's sound system.

I'm guessing that whoever was mixing the show was doing so on small monitors. Otherwise, he/ she would have heard the ridiculous (not normal radio ridiculous but stupid ridiculous) amount of sub frequencies in this guys voice and would have put on a high pass filter.

In their case, adding a sub to their system would have made this problem obvious to the engineer, in which case I'm betting it would have been fixed.

I'm not telling you to get a sub, not trying to sell you anything. I'm simply sharing with you an experience, one which I encounter all to often when listening to broadcast radio and TV. 

Mike T, the author of the Blog post, was doing the exact same thing.

And I'm not trying to debate one way or the other if you should add a sub to your system or not. Use a sub and it works for you? Cool. Not into subs and prefer mixing on a 2.0 system? Whatever works for ya.

What's important to understand, though, is that those of us at Cakewalk who are a part of the Blog are choosing to share parts of the knowledge that we've collectively built up over our decades of combined experience as musicians, engineers, producers, songwriters, and enthusiasts. 

Believe it or not, we're actually into the same stuff you are and are happy to have a platform like the blog in which to share that knowledge and enthusiasm with you all.

Its worth keeping that in mind when posting bout said blogs as, to be honest, we take it to heart. After all, these blog posts aren't commercials or copy, they're our experiences, our knowledge, and our thoughts on the things we're most passionate about.

So, weather or not you use a sub or not is entirely up to you, and I wish you the best of success either way. Just remember that the faces in the pictures on the blog are people, too.

SP