Some more info for those thinking of doing the update:
 
I have just spent 19 hours watching Win 10 install. Every time you think it's finally done, another stage starts.
 
1) There's a bunch of 3rd party (and Microsoft) software that you CANNOT UNINSTALL. Think Android phones.
 
2) The Windows 7 START menu is NOT back.
All that they have done is put the Win8 startpage icons in a popup above the Start button.
Instead of scrolling horizontally, you now scroll vertically.
 
3) Also, this stupid Internet Explorere Edge is correcting all my capitalization without asking. And it's not correct.
 
I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for as long as possible.

I had the same Win10 install experience. I clicked install and walked away to come back 45 minutes later to see my lock screen. Not a problem and no assistance needed. For me it was the best windows update ever.

Now that it's installed, I am really enjoying it. I think this is MS best roll out for sure.

If it was taking me 19hr to install anything, I would have gave up at 5hr. Something not right there.

I just upgraded my "home" desktop (the one I write on and use for surfing Cakewalk.  It uses an atom processor, very slow, and the At&T connection and software are very iffy to be charitable.  But the Win10 upgrade went fine, and it all works fine.  A bit slow starting up this morning, and I ain't seen any noticeable improvement (yet!) in speed, but no big problems either.  And most of the screen works like you would expect.
 
Next step is to upgrade a Win8 I bought for possible live use to see if music drivers work and if it is worthwhile to upgrade my main rig.
 
@

I guess my frustration is installing and relearning and in the end, all I do is start the same apps every morning and do the same work.
 
Nobody pays my time for all this.
 
Now I gotta sleep.
 
 

Coming from Windows 7 Pro x64. I upgraded yesterday using the MediaCreationTool. I stopped the download once when it was at 54% and had some problems getting that tool to work again, but it eventually started running again and started downloading from scratch, though.
 
It didn't take long to install (about 40 min or so). I didn't see any great improvement in how it runs or in bootup speed. It boots to the login screen fast, but the time it takes Windows to completely load, is about the same overall time it takes Windows 7 to boot and load.
 
It does take some learning to get familiar with getting around the OS. I don't like the added part to the right of the Start menu, but I guess I can live with that. I frown upon the inability to make custom choices of what to select and install for Windows updates. I don't like that! That means Microsoft is controlling what we have on are computer and I strongly suspect there is advanced spyware stuff in Windows 10 because of this! 
 
There are reports that Windows 10 has the ability to disable the use of pirated games and software (primarily Microsoft authored games and software). That's really not a problem for me in itself, but it's an invasion of privacy (to take control of any activity conducted on an individuals PC like that), and that really troubles me.
 
I'm really interested in Windows 10 because of the new Audio Stack API implementations in the new OS. I'm gonna get around to seeing what kind of low latency improvements are present for WDM and WASAPI drivers. And I got to say I like Cortana (the A.I. from the Halo games), and I want to try out Cortana! :)
 
There is one important issue I'm having with Windows 10, now. I can't get the thing Activated. I'm getting the following error: Error code: 0xC004C003. I tried phone Activation to no avail. And I've spent a good amount of time waiting on the phone to speak with Microsoft. I also spoke via phone to Microsoft techs and reps. To this point Online and phone activation is not working for me. Microsoft says a number of people are getting this error code, and there's an issue with the Activation Servers at this time. They tell me to give it 48 hours or so and the Online Activation should work. That error code I'm getting has something to do with the server blocking my activation because of the Windows 10 product number I have. That product number on my copy of Windows 10 was automatically given by my use of the Microsoft MediaCreationTool and it's installation of Windows 10 on my PC. I'm not responsible for that Product number. I'll give it a week or so, and if Windows 10 doesn't get activated, I'll call Microsoft, again. Guess this is my price for Windows 10. As the saying goes: Nothing is really free.
 
Overall, though, it looks like Windows 10 may be a good OS in general and as a host for a DAW. 

michael diemer

mrdrwest

jpetersen
Some more info for those thinking of doing the update:
 
I have just spent 19 hours watching Win 10 install. Every time you think it's finally done, another stage starts.
 
1) There's a bunch of 3rd party (and Microsoft) software that you CANNOT UNINSTALL. Think Android phones.
 
2) The Windows 7 START menu is NOT back.
All that they have done is put the Win8 startpage icons in a popup above the Start button.
Instead of scrolling horizontally, you now scroll vertically.
 
3) Also, this stupid Internet Explorere Edge is correcting all my capitalization without asking. And it's not correct.
 
I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for as long as possible.

You're sensationalizing.
 
There is a Windows 10 start menu: A new modern version.
 
Granted, some apps can't be removed. Do you know how to uninstall apps?
 
Are the apps/applications you can't uninstall interfering with your workflow?
 
Microsoft Edge is a work in progress: I'll concede to that. But your specific complaint is, IMO, whiny and exaggerated.
 
 

People have a right to complain, without being called "whiny." That is defensive and arrogant.

My apologies, but it is whiny and exaggerated.
 
Some of the complaints I've seen are regurgitated nonsensical traps set by click beaters to "scare" those susceptible to the "herd" mentality. Uncorroborated and exaggerated information stirred up by the unprofessional tech bloggers spreads through word of mouth and shared web links to the point where peoples complaints are simply what someone else complained about.
 
I hate healthy food because it's inconvenient. Now you should too. Hear it enough times, you might believe it and share this "fact" with others too.

I am in absolutely no rush to upgrade to win10.. I fail to see any value within my current environment as to my way of thinking...
 
a) A new machine is the ideal time to upgrade an os..not deliberately potentially disrupt a working reliable and known system.
b) I have between 7-10 pieces of hardware that require a driver, so upgrading to a new os without user confirmed driver support would be putting me in the "dumb a as a box of rocks" category... 
c) Anyone on a win7 machine is likely to be on another PC within 2-4 years, so that gives even the slowest manufacturer time to not develop a driver, get railed at by the public, and then finally kicking and screaming, release a driver (here's looking at you Roland).
 
everyones MMV but with hardware..compatability comes first, and its not something to experiment with

YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Two of the recent security updates were corrupt. Non-stop restarting,....
 
Auto-updates: This is the main reason to not upgrade yet.
 
Increasingly the question is WHEN this stupidity with be changed not IF.

Lots of stupid:
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+10+automatic+updates+problems&biw=1536&bih=730&tbs=qdr:m&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0CEYQsQRqFQoTCMTC_ZXZuMcCFQyagAods6gNyQ

Where is the detail?
http://bfy.tw/1Q38
 

I've been running 10 since before it was released. I have not had a problem. When I found a way to use my gear with it I loaded it on my main machine. 
 
I wouldn't put a lot of faith in reports that are not the norm.  Right here on this forum there are many that have Windows 10 and are happy with it. Those that don't like it haven't said so because it wont work. They just don't like it. That is their right. 

This happens to be a very interesting thread so far fella's … 
 
Since I only have one machine that is upgradeable , I'm gonna have to take my cue from a lesson I learned long ago on the bandstand 
 
When in doubt ,  Sit it out ….
 
I've been told this a few times when I didn't heed that advice  I'ts OK kid …you did the best you could …come back when you are ready and know the changes….
 
 
 
Kenny

Doktor Avalanche

jih64
and REAPER, it is still supporting XP,

Most drivers aren't though.

No, that is correct, but for those people who remain on XP, they are likely also remaining on the same hardware, therefore it's a non issue, as they have all the driver support they need.
 
I only mention REAPER still supporting XP, because if while sitting it out on Windows 7, if Sonar started bugging out due to support for Windows 7 being dropped, it wouldn't be a major issue, as my other favorite DAW would continue for quite some years to come. Although Sonar would likely continue to work for an undefined period, and one could also just sit on the last supported iteration. So no issue really.

Let:s give the quote I responded to:

jih64
and REAPER, it is still supporting XP,

Doktor Avalanche
Most drivers aren't though.

And your response:

jih64
No, that is correct, but for those people who remain on XP, they are likely also remaining on the same hardware, therefore it's a non issue, as they have all the driver support they need.

I would suggest that you are saying my comment is incorrect by changing the goalposts afterwards. You say the latest Reaper supports XP and I'm saying the latest drivers aren't supporting XP

You also think that if Sonar drops say windows 7, you only need to stick with the last version of Sonar and that will be fine...

Well hopefully... But if the libraries get updated on the OS via Windows update or whatever it may break Sonar and then you would not be happy.

So once you are out of support, if you plan on contining on using a machine it's probably best not to install any more software whatsoever other than security updates.

I would suggest though it's best to upgrade of course. For me if a person insists on using a machine on the internet that's not receiving security updates, that's just darn right irresponsible to you and other people. Take it off the internet if you want to keep it. Just don't install any software at all, and you should be fine.

Cheers..

Doktor Avalanche
Let:s give the quote I responded to:

jih64
and REAPER, it is still supporting XP,

Doktor Avalanche
Most drivers aren't though.

And your response:

jih64
No, that is correct, but for those people who remain on XP, they are likely also remaining on the same hardware, therefore it's a non issue, as they have all the driver support they need.

I would suggest that you are saying my comment is incorrect by changing the goalposts afterwards. You say the latest Reaper supports XP and I'm saying the latest drivers aren't supporting XP

You also think that if Sonar drops say windows 7, you only need to stick with the last version of Sonar and that will be fine...

Well hopefully... But if the libraries get updated on the OS via Windows update or whatever it may break Sonar and then you would not be happy.

So once you are out of support, if you plan on contining on using a machine it's probably best not to install any more software whatsoever other than security updates.

I would suggest though it's best to upgrade of course. For me if a person insists on using a machine on the internet that's not receiving security updates, that's just darn right irresponsible to you and other people. Take it off the internet if you want to keep it. Just don't install any software at all, and you should be fine.

Cheers..

I don't believe any goal posts were changed.
 
I think staying on the last supported version would workout fine, I never update after a service pack anyway (I did for the 3 I downgraded to Windows 10 though), so my 2 music PC's will remain at Win 7 SP1, so libraries  changes isn't an issue, and I have no security concerns, actually, see my user name, that is my initials and year of birth,  "irresponsible" is actually my middle name