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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 01:05:46
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So CJ, you have Dyslexia. That's unfortunate. I did ask you if you a learning difficulty. Why didn't you just say so? In light of this new information I apologise for the things I have said about you in this thread. There's no need to be ashamed or embarrassed by your condition. It would have been much better to just tell me why you have the spelling problem. Trying to evade the issue doesn't help. Again... you have my unreserved apology. I'm sorry CJ.
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Anubis
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 01:46:30
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ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle It's far more likely as is hinted at in the quoted article, that whoever was the contracted engineer, editor, musician or whatever who was employed to create the sounds was using cracked software. I'd also love to hear what MS had to say about this, just out of curiosity really... And that is exactly the point, NOTHING has been said! Even in the link that stevepow provided(thanks!) a lame excuse was given. I also don't believe that MS would knowingly allow the use of cracked software by it's development team. But it's also apparent that MS is reluctant to adhere to the rigorous standards it seeks to apply to others or else we would know precisely how that metadata got into it's flagship product. When the Lead Product Manager's explanation is that they were simply unsuccesful at completely purging the evidence, what the heck does that mean? So after seven years all we have is just speculation? So if the 800lb gorilla came after you would ignorance be a suitable defence?
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 02:15:10
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If there was only one way to spell each word, there would be just one language in the world. The people who decided this"proper spelling" are long dead. The language is not. If someone cant get past a typo then they have more problems than the typoist (is that a word?) If someone has information I can use to help my music I am glad to have it with all misspelled words. It would be a shame if someone with usefull info didnt post because some jerks are anal about spelling and grammer.English is not my strong point I have no idea when to start a new paragraph.hope I dont get banned
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:37:52
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im sitting here at work sipping tea ?????? are you a closet englishman? I think we should know
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Gavin
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:40:57
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ORIGINAL: artsoul im sitting here at work sipping tea ?????? are you a closet englishman? I think we should know  Nah, there was no scone involved and he wasn't loudly complaining about Germans while fastening his sandles over his socks.
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artsoul
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:43:07
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pmsl PS how do you do quotes properly?
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Gavin
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:47:33
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ORIGINAL: artsoul pmsl PS how do you do quotes properly? Hit the button that says "Quote" 
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artsoul
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:52:25
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ive tried that but only puts quote marks how do you put a specific quote in? and enough of your haggis eating smart a**e-ery
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Roflcopter
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 07:59:29
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ORIGINAL: kaylen If there was only one way to spell each word, there would be just one language in the world. The people who decided this"proper spelling" are long dead. The language is not. If someone cant get past a typo then they have more problems than the typoist (is that a word?) If someone has information I can use to help my music I am glad to have it with all misspelled words. It would be a shame if someone with usefull info didnt post because some jerks are anal about spelling and grammer.English is not my strong point I have no idea when to start a new paragraph.hope I dont get banned [OT] Erm, try this: dyslexia is *not* a medical condition, really. Some people *just cannot* get their heads properly around what we do with our western languages, that SPECIFIC knack of handling data is slightly beyond them. Proof: there is no dyslexia with Chinese readers. It simply does not exist. That's because it's a different TYPE of language altogether, it has no alphabet. Therefore, there's no real cure. You cannot cure people from how their brains function. It usually ALSO implies your brain is better at other things than 'most' people, due to these same differences. So no need to feel bad about it either, whether you have it or not. It's just one of these differences people should step over, as long as you get the idea and there's communication, who cares? [/OT] On topic: I think by now someone who could conceivably take MS to court over this, by this time already has taken notice of the fact, and if that person does not feel the inclination, why should we care, really. MS's liberties with other people's code (sorry, I mean their temporary workers) at several instances is pretty well known by now. As long as 'properly borrowed is better than badly made yourself' is still an unspoken rule-of-thumb for EVERYONE, this should not surprise us in a software giant with an enormous number of products. Again, I think that if anyone felt he had a case, it would have been in court by now. I sure know I would have, they're not exactly Mother Theresa themselves.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 08:37:14
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ORIGINAL: Mick Yeah, and let me tell you what that reason is. It's so certain ****s can convince themselves and act like they're better than certain other people. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with communication, and if you doubt that, take a stroll through the forum and see if you can find any examples of spelling mistakes that prevented the misspeller from communicating whatever he was trying to communicate. You are very wrong! If you want to scare away non-native speakers, then wrong spelling and bad grammar are actually a good way to accomplish this. Why would someone post if they don't care whether or not they're understood? FWIW: When I began to participate in some international forums a few years ago, I was really having a hard time figuring out the meaning of some posts. Example: the use of "of" instead of "have". It was only by accident and after a long time that I found out about this one - and only because another native(!) speaker was complaining about it. Still I have to read many posts 2-4 times because of the screwed language. Many times I try to look up a certain word I don't know (and can't figure out from context), and guess what: I friggin' cant fimd it becuse it was miss-pelled! Sure, I don't have to read here, but that brings us back to square one, no? Sorry for the ongoing OT, but views like the one you expressed above are just plain arrogant in my book. And it has absolutely nothing to do with "freedom of speech" either. werner
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 08:54:59
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ORIGINAL: Roflcopter Proof: there is no dyslexia with Chinese readers. It simply does not exist. That's because it's a different TYPE of language altogether, it has no alphabet. I'm sorry to say, but apparently, there is dyslexia amongst the Chinese.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 08:58:23
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FWIW: My Phi Beta Kappa, English major daughter is now going for her Master's degree in Library Science and - - - - Is a terrible speller. Additionally, I interface with a considerable number of the generation immediately behind me and find that spelling simply isn't that important. Blame it on the schools, Nintendo or text messaging, it doesn't matter. It's just there. I myself, am guilty of being less careful when I chat, and a click of the return key imbeds your errors in virtual concrete. I'm not going to waste my time correcting every line I write in haste. The culture constantly moves the bar of acceptance and it looks as if Spelling Champs may indeed be a rarity in the future. This doesn't mean we'll become a society of "slack-jawed yokels" (meaning no disrespect to anyone) It just means on an average we won't spell too well. I'm sure in spite of poor spelling we will continue to invent, express, prosper and cure. My 2 cents Ed
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Roflcopter
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 09:15:14
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ORIGINAL: cyberzip ORIGINAL: Roflcopter Proof: there is no dyslexia with Chinese readers. It simply does not exist. That's because it's a different TYPE of language altogether, it has no alphabet. I'm sorry to say, but apparently, there is dyslexia amongst the Chinese. Yes, I read that, should not have phrased it so boldly maybe, and naturally my sources belong to the group that uses the 1.5% figure of a DIFFERENT type of dyslexia altogether. It's not OUR dyslexia, which brings us more or less back to what I stated earlier. Naturally, also amongst Chinese readers there's a percentage that has a problem with visualisation of a non-alphabetic language. Bet you they would not have OUR form of dyslexia, and could spell Western languages without any sweat. The essence is still that our brains ARE different, if it was reading and interpreting musical notation noone would care as much, since we don't all depend on that as much, but I also bet you there's people who will NEVER be able to learn THAT, either.
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Russell.Whaley
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 09:59:29
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*sigh* On cracked code: Micro$oft is going to do what they will, and the courts will only be able to do so much to them, and none of it entirely effect. It's a shame, but economic pressure is going to dictate the final outcome of this one because of the golden rule: they that have the gold, rule. So, while I recognize the principle's validity (having cracked code in your product is not right), I resist the urge to become over-wrought because all it's going to do is raise my blood pressure for no conceivable benefit. Go back and read news stories from the last 10 to 12 years about various attempts to bring Micro$oft to heel on anti-trust issues -- e.g. the flap perhaps 10 years ago over whether or not Internet Explorer was unfairly thrust upon the PC-using public. Despite much evidence that it was in fact an unfairly-thrust product, MS simply took what lumps they could not avoid, and rewrote Windows' code so that you cannot remove the browser without killing Windows. Unfortunately, so much of the world survives on Windows and Windows-based software that the odds of a truly righteous change on MS's behalf are somewhere between slim and none -- and Slim's left town! On spelling, dyslexia, and related silliness: I'm sorry to see that this thread has devolved into hard/hurt feelings. Though I come late to the table on this one, let me enter a plea: LET THERE BE PEACE IN THIS PLACE! I suppose that between being not only a theologian but also a trained writer, I've become something of a wordsmith over the years. I'm certainly capable of getting myself into all sorts of contortions over the subtleties of language... but here, on this forum, I think the more important question to ask is, "are we COMMUNICATING?" I could take CJ's posts apart with a fine-tooth comb and come up with all sorts of criticism, but WHY? He communicates effectively, and I am able to understand him. For here, in this place, in these kinds of discussions, that's more than enough. Cheers, Russ
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Gavin
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 10:18:41
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I think we've established that neither side of this is going to budge so lets all just shut the hell up, get drunk and listen to Pantera.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 10:33:38
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so lets all just shut the hell up, get drunk and listen to Pantera. or watch Shrek once again
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 10:39:33
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Well....this would certainly explain why MS is interested in new forms of DRM & copy-protection. They have first-hand experience on the other side of the table.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 10:50:43
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If you play Pantera backwards, you can hear Shrek imploring you to "Kill the stupid donkey, Kill the stupid donkey..."
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 10:57:03
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ORIGINAL: jinga8 If you play Pantera backwards, you can hear Shrek imploring you to "Kill the stupid donkey, Kill the stupid donkey..."  ..and do I need the Deepzone version of Soundforge for doing that? first i'll need to "grab" some Pantera stuff from one of those file sharing places...ehhm..
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 11:23:18
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ORIGINAL: Honest_Al ORIGINAL: jinga8 If you play Pantera backwards, you can hear Shrek imploring you to "Kill the stupid donkey, Kill the stupid donkey..." ..and do I need the Deepzone version of Soundforge for doing that? first i'll need to "grab" some Pantera stuff from one of those file sharing places...ehhm..  Coyboys from hell!,,,, no wait.... Great southern trendkill!! (I'm screaming at ya, you just dont know it  )
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 13:33:29
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I'm sorry to say, but apparently, there is dyslexia amongst the Chinese. No there isn't, they have å éš¾è¯ç—‡ silly boy!! 
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 13:37:03
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I had a bad case of å éš¾è¯ç—‡ a few months ago. My doctor gave me some å éš¾ but it just made things worse and now my åéš¾è¯ is åéš¾è¯ç—‡ å éš¾è¯ç—‡. ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle I'm sorry to say, but apparently, there is dyslexia amongst the Chinese. No there isn't, they have å éš¾è¯ç—‡ silly boy!!  
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 13:46:27
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I had a bad case of å éš¾è¯ç—‡ a few months ago. My doctor gave me some å éš¾ but it just made things worse and now my åéš¾è¯ is åéš¾è¯ç—‡ å éš¾è¯ç—‡. Mick, Mick, Mick...What doctor would give you difficult to treat famous logopathy? That's just ludicrous...Freakin quack healers...
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Mick
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 14:17:02
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It really wasn't his fault. When I answered his questionaire about my medical history, I mispelled "headache" as "headake" and he was totally unable to understand what I was trying to say. ORIGINAL: jinga8 I had a bad case of å éš¾è¯ç—‡ a few months ago. My doctor gave me some å éš¾ but it just made things worse and now my åéš¾è¯ is åéš¾è¯ç—‡ å éš¾è¯ç—‡. Mick, Mick, Mick...What doctor would give you difficult to treat famous logopathy? That's just ludicrous...Freakin quack healers...
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Roflcopter
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 14:22:51
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Well, whatever your definition of dyslexia is, or whether it's a medical condition or not, it isn't right to bash people over it, or demand they 'go and clean their language' before they post here, as long as it's understandable. That's a silly demand. Just saw this posting on a site where someone called someone else a **** for calling Iraq Irak, with a k. The other guy responded only ****s don't know other languages spell country-names slightly differently. So, even without knowing what Iraq *means*, they already at war over how you spell it. I suspect the problem lies not so much with the language, really. It's just our nature to correct, even if it's provocative and unneccessary, really. OT: Bill Gates can't spell, either.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 14:28:13
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Firefox has a nice automatic spell checker built in for anyone that wishes to have their posts checked on the fly... live update kind of like MS Word. Other than that, who cares about misspelling as long as it wasn't "shorthand" or "on-purpose" other than the usual IMO, AFAIK stuff. Spelling is overrated.
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Gavin
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 14:33:03
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ORIGINAL: Roflcopter Well, whatever your definition of dyslexia is, or whether it's a medical condition or not, it isn't right to bash people over it, or demand they 'go and clean their language' before they post here, as long as it's understandable. That's a silly demand. No one actually bashed him for being dyslexic. That information came out after. I also appologised if that was in fact the case. But the rest of you guys still have no excuse.
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ooblecaboodle
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 15:40:39
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Hmm, just thought, does that look like chinese writing in anybody else's browsers? I would have assumed so until i got this email... Mick at 5/1/2007 1:39:02 PM ------------------------------------ DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL To reply to the message visit http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.asp?m=1038914 ------------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I had a bad case of å és¾è¯Âç-? a few months ago. My doctor gave me some å és¾ but it just made things worse and now my Ã¥ÂÂés¾è¯ is Ã¥ÂÂés¾è¯Âç-? å és¾è¯Âç-?. ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle I'm sorry to say, but apparently, there is dyslexia amongst the Chinese. No there isn't, they have å és¾è¯Âç-? silly boy!! In that email, it's clearly not chinese writing!
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Roflcopter
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 15:46:13
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ORIGINAL: corrupted Firefox has a nice automatic spell checker built in for anyone that wishes to have their posts checked on the fly... live update kind of like MS Word. Other than that, who cares about misspelling as long as it wasn't "shorthand" or "on-purpose" other than the usual IMO, AFAIK stuff. Spelling is overrated. Cool, never used it yet. Does it also present a list of words if it does not know what you mean? Like a whole bunch of almost identically spelled words? Grrrrrrrreat.
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RE: Windows Uses Cracked Software....
2007/05/01 15:46:42
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Would everyone please just stop this whole embarrisng discussion. No harm to me was done by anyone anf lets just move on from this.  Cj
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