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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:42:16
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It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
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2013/09/25 18:42:53
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No, I'm sure this info is correct (I've heard it from several sources now). i'm just disappointed the Steinberg guy didn't go into that kind of detail.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:43:52
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☄ Helpfulby yevster 2013/09/25 18:44:32
It looks like a huge upgrade to me. I can easily find $149 worth of plugins...Not counting the VST3 and ARA support. I realize most of us don't need more plugins, but need has very little to do with it. The improvements in the Pro-channel are great. Flyout EQ/ analyzer has been requested a thousand times (as has VST3) and the tape sim looks good. Now if the graphic issues, Pro-channel bugs, audio engine and stability are there....Then this will be a great deal indeed!
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2013/09/25 18:45:31
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John T It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
I can understand why people want it especially after being used to it in pre X1 days but the sheer raging about it always seemed... well a little nutty to me. Do the colors make it sound better?
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:45:51
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dorism Not seeing much progress in terms of core capability - looks like its a bunch of fx and plugins??
I don't know, to me these jump out:
• Skylight Interface enhancements and color customizations
• Craft the perfect vocal performances with Melodyne Essential - (ARA is embedded deep into X3 - this could pave the way for future functionality / extensibility)
• Comp multiple takes together instantly for the ultimate performance
• Improved video support including YouTube export
• Full support for VST3 synths and effects
Colour - its good but brings back something which I had in pre X. Melodyne essential - got V vocal (still a 3rd party tech), takes - was broken so needed fixed. VST 3 is good but no note expression. Where's decent audio quantisation and tempo extraction, scoring, audio engine improvements, customisable scalable UI... I could go on. Sonar is massively weak in so many areas I was hoping this version would have seen big inroads being made.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:47:14
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Not especially to me. I understand some people have wanted it due to eyesight issues, but aside from that, yeah, it's always seemed like a mountain being made of a molehill. And now it's here, nobody comments at all!
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:48:44
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yevster No, I'm sure this info is correct (I've heard it from several sources now). i'm just disappointed the Steinberg guy didn't go into that kind of detail.
I see 2 errors in the large list FWIW.
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2013/09/25 18:50:23
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Yeah the tape sim might be nice but if I really want something like that there are plenty of options out there. I think for someone just getting going with a home studio (as I was when I purchased X1) this'll be great. For those already more or less set up... IDK. It'll all come down to how many components have been fixed and where the stability is at. Time will tell. $200 though... yeouch.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:51:38
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John T Not especially to me. I understand some people have wanted it due to eyesight issues, but aside from that, yeah, it's always seemed like a mountain being made of a molehill. And now it's here, nobody comments at all!
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:52:13
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I think you meant to quote something else, Seth, as my post was referring to VST 2 sidechaining in Cubase :) But since you're here, can you officially confirm that all these plugins will be in X3? And will they work outside Sonar as VST plugins (say, in SoundForge)? http://www.nomadfactory.com/products/bt_bundle/index.html
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:58:42
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John T It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
Comment about what exactly John? Nobody knows as yet how this is going to be implemented. As I've mentioned a few times (in a completely rational and non-feverish like manner), my poor low-contrast vision is the reason I've wanted the ability to customise the GUI to a greater extent than X1 and X2 offers. In addition, it's not as if those of us who have been requesting this for the past "couple of years straight" are asking for something brand spanking new, just the reimplementation of an extremely useful feature that was present in previous versions, and was effectively removed from the program. A lot of the speculation and rumour that's flying around is just that. Until we know officially what X3 has and hasn't got regarding colour customisation, I don't understand how you would think anyone could "comment" on it in a favourable, or negative, manner.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 18:58:43
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Beepster I can understand why people want it especially after being used to it in pre X1 days but the sheer raging about it always seemed... well a little nutty to me. Do the colors make it sound better?
Jeez, common. How you going to get that Goth sound, if your DAW is all sparkles & sunshine?
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:00:01
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Beepster Thanks, dub. Doesn't look like anything new except some extra effects/plugs I don't really need. Hooray.
well.. I think this list is a compromise and made kind of simple to try and make both new and old customers interested.. more in depth things like updated editing features and other things that makes more sense for us experienced users maybe will be revealed in a few days. and since it's X3 and not X2b we're talking about I have a feeling that list will be a long one.. :)
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:02:48
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John T It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
Comment about what exactly John? Nobody knows as yet how this is going to be implemented.
Ha... and people are being entirely restrained with regards to not commenting based on limited information, aren't they?
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:04:03
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colour customization, isnt that why Panups(?) mods were so popular???
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:07:05
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John T It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
Comment about what exactly John? Nobody knows as yet how this is going to be implemented.
Ha... and people are being entirely restrained with regards to not commenting based on limited information, aren't they?
To be fair, a lot of the other features have received official clarification and details explained. I haven't seen anything that even gives a hint of how colour customisation is changing in X3. That was my point in saying we have nothing to comment on.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:10:06
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But, just to keep you happy... [feverish] Yay!! Wow!! Colour customisation is back!! [/feverish]
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:10:38
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mcq was one of the people constantly criticising the X series for lack of the colour customisation that he needed for his dire congenital eye defects, and yet not one "Rejoice" from him. All his posts on X3 seem uncharacteristically negative, critical and "Snarky". Odd..
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:11:36
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SteveStrummerUK But, just to keep you happy... [feverish] Yay!! Wow!! Colour customisation is back!! [/feverish]
That's better It's about time young man
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2013/09/25 19:12:23
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jb101 mcq was one of the people constantly criticising the X series for lack of the colour customisation that he needed for his dire congenital eye defects, and yet not one "Rejoice" from him. All his posts on X3 seem uncharacteristically negative, critical and "Snarky". Odd..
BUT they are always with warm regards ....
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2013/09/25 19:14:21
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Beepster I can understand why people want it especially after being used to it in pre X1 days but the sheer raging about it always seemed... well a little nutty to me. Do the colors make it sound better?
Jeez, common. How you going to get that Goth sound, if your DAW is all sparkles & sunshine?
lol... I want color customization but I want all the colors to be BLACK. Then my music can be none more black.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:14:51
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Some will never be satisfied.....complaint after complaint! Just make you own DAW instead of music!
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:15:28
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To be fair, a lot of the other features have received official clarification and details explained. I haven't seen anything that even gives a hint of how colour customisation is changing in X3.
'Tis true... OK, quick - someone ask a really good question about X3's color customization.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:15:32
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Beepster Has Audiosnap been worked on?
I certainly hope so. Audio Snap comes in 5th compared to competing products.
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2013/09/25 19:15:32
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Beepster Has Audiosnap been worked on?
I certainly hope so. Audio Snap comes in 5th compared to competing products.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:17:47
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Colour customisation. Didn't appreciate how important it was until I started working on cubase. It actually makes everything easier.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:18:43
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Beepster Has Audiosnap been worked on?
I certainly hope so. Audio Snap comes in 5th compared to competing products.
And it is what is making me eyeball the starter version of a competitor that shall remain nameless. If I can drop $100 just to get a reliable audiostretching feature... well then I guess that's how it's gotta be. Also I wanted to complete my reference from earlier...
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:20:09
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AudioSnap is a funny one. I think the underlying tech is great, and you can get sonically superb results with it. But the UI and workflow design have always been a bit eccentric, and it is a bit buggy and unreliable. I see it's still listed as version 2.0, so I don't expect any substantial updates. But I hope there have been some bug fixes.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:22:33
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John T It's interesting how little comment there's been about colour customisation, after a couple of years straight of people talking like it was the must-have feature of their most feverish dreams.
Color customization is a non-issue for me. It becomes a distraction. You can spend an amazing amount of time customizing Reaper and you still don't get a project finished. It almost becomes an obsession. It's all about having the tools to get a project finished. Done. Get the check. Hand them the project.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow
2013/09/25 19:22:50
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Seth, Noel, Marketing Bakers Any chance of some new T-shirts showing up in the store for X3? Black with the logo would be nice. My Sonar 7 one has seen better days!
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