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X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:23:38 (permalink)
Yaaaah, I'm gonna go with "not sure" at this point. I want to know all about it before I give any more money.
 
What I see so far is "Look, here's a bunch more softsynths and plugins you're never going to use. Oh, and we pack in a DAW with it."
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:27:16 (permalink)
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Yaaaah, I'm gonna go with "not sure" at this point. I want to know all about it before I give any more money.
 
What I see so far is "Look, here's a bunch more softsynths and plugins you're never going to use. Oh, and we pack in a DAW with it."




VST3 no good?

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:30:01 (permalink)
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Yaaaah, I'm gonna go with "not sure" at this point. I want to know all about it before I give any more money.
 
What I see so far is "Look, here's a bunch more softsynths and plugins you're never going to use. Oh, and we pack in a DAW with it."




VST3 no good?




Or is VST3 a Photoshop fake, too?

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:32:12 (permalink)
I'm very impressed with everything that's in it....A very long sweet list.

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:34:14 (permalink)
The Melodyne integration is definitely a step in the right direction. Along with VST3....which Cake was embarrassingly late with. I left Sonar after X2....went with Studio One and eventually landed in Cubase. I have to say I am extremely happy with it.

None the less, here I am...forever wandering these boards. What can I say....Sonar (Cakewalk Pro Audio actually) was my first love. You know....that girl that you don't want to be with anymore....but you still care about. In a sisterly way....

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:35:39 (permalink)
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]VST3 no good?


The main feature of a DAW should be the DAW, not how many softsynths and effects you can pack into it.
 
Bug fixes? Stability? Tool updates? AudioSnap updates? V-Studio Support updates? Notation updates? These are more important to me than some Applied Acoustics Systems Lounge Lizard softsynth.
 
VST3 support is nice, don't get me wrong but it's also something that should have been added in X2 and you guys chose to ignore it.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:37:10 (permalink)
Any updates on staff?  Hopefully they fixed the chord box bug I reported....
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:38:30 (permalink)
TerraSin, what exactly is it that you are looking for that Sonar is lacking?
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:39:25 (permalink)
posted that before i saw your last post
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:41:56 (permalink)
I don't think I'll be waiting for a price cut. Gotta give the Melodyne a try.
 
Lots of the stuff looks tasty. I must say the Tape Sim looks appealing. What are fly-away eqs?? just dockable? gotta wonder...
 
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:42:31 (permalink)
Seth, I can't believe you guys haven't implemented VST4. Come on! Get with it! lol
 
Seriously, I want to get X3. 
 
Incidentally, I went through all the new stuff listed on the sweetwater site and checked out demos of each. My favorite being a Melodyne Essential demo on youtube. The song he was using as the demo was pretty good so I bought and downloaded it. Now it would be a shame if I fell $0.99 short of buying the X3 upgrade on the 28th. 
 
The other stuff is pretty cool too. Nothing I need really but then again, I don't need recording software but still, hear I am. :-)

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:45:43 (permalink)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the most consistent of users here do consider the DAW itself Sonar's strong point.  I know user experiences vary, but X1 and X2 were very stable for me and each time I had an issue, it was usually something on my end.  Even gripes I have with Sonar are more preferences than bugs.  I find Sonar to be no more buggy than most DAWs. As far as the synths and effects, some are useful and some not so useful...just like every other D.A.W. It all depends on music genre.  Of course, Cakewalk is going to throw in new plugins, just like every other company does when launching a new version. If they didn't , people would whine that they are falling behind competition on that. Yes, it's fluff, but I suspect some of that fluff will excite some people.  Even though SD3 had it's uses, I suspect many will be more excited about addictive Drums.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:52:45 (permalink)
Is that tape simulator an all new development or is is built off of the old one?

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:53:45 (permalink)
Sylvan
Is that tape simulator an all new development or is is built off of the old one?



100% new

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:55:04 (permalink)
And yes, I will point out that many of my posts are Negative Nancy on this forum because really the only time I'm here is when I'm having a problem with something or when the company whose products I use is being acquired by a company I despise. Many of us have invested thousands of dollars into Cakewalk and have felt quite left in the dark, especially where the V-Studio is concerned, so understand I'm far more cautious about giving my money away on a whim anymore with blind trust.
 
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:55:51 (permalink)
I just want to know what's been done with take lanes.  Somewhat disappointed that they didn't go back to layers.  But if take lanes work better in X3, I'm in.  If they are as broken as X2, I'm probably out.
 
Sure, all the extra goodies are nice, but my work-flow took a huge hit with the change to take lanes.

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:57:23 (permalink)
I'm curious about take lanes as well??? Were they improved guys???

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 20:59:29 (permalink)
I already own XLN Addictive Drums, and don't use VST3 effects. I also happen to be one of the few folks out there who like V-Vocal and get good results with it. I imagine it's no longer in the product (and I very much doubt that the version in X2 "just works" in X3 although that would be cool if it did).
I'll have to wait and see what the "color customizations" really means.
 
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:00:26 (permalink)
Terrasin..i get it.  I'm sure if my experience with Cakewalk was similar to yours I would feel the same way. I guess take a look at demo when it is released and go from there.  Why do you despise Gibson?
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:00:49 (permalink)
Seth, can you say anything about an official announcement from Cakewalk? I'm sitting here with my card in hand. X3 is going to be huge. Thank you for any info about an official release from the Bakers.

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:04:18 (permalink)
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I already own XLN Addictive Drums, and don't use VST3 effects. I also happen to be one of the few folks out there who like V-Vocal and get good results with it. I imagine it's no longer in the product (and I very much doubt that the version in X2 "just works" in X3 although that would be cool if it did).
I'll have to wait and see what the "color customizations" really means.
 




It works in X3, we wanted backwards compatibility for old projects. This is always something we strive for. 

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:04:35 (permalink)
stickman, I would guess the opposite
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I already own XLN Addictive Drums, and don't use VST3 effects. I also happen to be one of the few folks out there who like V-Vocal and get good results with it. I imagine it's no longer in the product (and I very much doubt that the version in X2 "just works" in X3 although that would be cool if it did).
I'll have to wait and see what the "color customizations" really means.
 




I would actually lean the opposite way.  Most legacy plugins work when Cakewalk does not choose to license the product in the next version.  Granted, because of the way V-vocal is integrated in the interface it may be trickier, but it is still just a DXi plugin.  I tell you what.  As soon as I get X3, I will test V-vocal and post if there is a compatibility issue.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:05:07 (permalink)
See..Seth just confirmed and he seems pretty trustworthy lol
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:08:24 (permalink)
No comment on take lanes???

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:08:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bounty 2013/09/25 08:36:25
If you take the "new features" section, and then remove the extra 3rd party plug-ins, you are left with:
  • Skylight Interface enhancements and color customizations
  • New flyout QuadCurve EQ/Analyzer
  • Comp multiple takes together instantly
  • Improved video support including YouTube export
  • Gobbler integration
  • Full support for VST3
Of those genuine new features, I'm hoping the "Comp multiple takes together instantly" means a re-boot of the take lanes.  If so, Cakewalk will get my money.

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:11:18 (permalink)
dubdiscipleTerrasin..i get it.  I'm sure if my experience with Cakewalk was similar to yours I would feel the same way. I guess take a look at demo when it is released and go from there.  Why do you despise Gibson?

Because they own Tascam who will be distributing Sonar. They are a useless company with useless products and useless programmers who make useless drivers which cause you to call their useless tech support. In fact, I sold my DM4800 to buy a VS-700.
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:15:15 (permalink)
Somebody got a frowny face...
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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:17:07 (permalink)
Geno
No comment on take lanes???




I'm not saying anything till it's official....sorry 

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Re: X3...here it is..for real! Sept. 28th ship date? wow 2013/09/24 21:19:22 (permalink)
Melodyne!!!  Hot damn!

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