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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:22:56
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$290 is amazing. Paid over £400 for my version lol
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:27:32
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The seems to be the same as the crossgrade was the other day?
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:45:21
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I'm hoping to get a demo of Cubase 9.5. If anyone runs across it please let me know.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:45:24
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There are numerous updates throughout the products life cycle which are free to users offering fixes and new features. All the best, Greg 35mm
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Yeah while I know Cubase is fine software, the combination of having to have a hardware dongle and the lack of ARA support is enough to probably push me to Studio One.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Also having to pay to renew the license every time there's an update - not that you have to update each time, but from my past experience, you don't get free updates within a year or anything. I am torn about which way to go.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:46:42
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The seems to be the same as the crossgrade was the other day?
No, the current crossgrade is $325, plus $35 for the dongle. This deal saves $70
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
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☄ Helpfulby simeon 2017/11/24 17:14:35
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I was reading the Cubase forums last night and the only thing that concerns me and I'm sure going to piss off a lot of cakewalk customers is that Cubase will not work with 32 bit VST plugins hence their own page about it:
32-bit plug-ins can't be re-enabled, since those are not supported by Cubase 9.
You can still run 32 bit plug-ins in Cubase with a 3rd party bridging solution like j-bridge. All the best, Greg
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:51:41
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Yep - $290 is 1/2 the price of Cubase 9.5 pro. A really good deal.
As for the eLicenser - at least you don't have the problem of server activation like where we are with Gibson.
And the Cubase updates per version are usually free = with the "version" not changing every year.
I have a eLicencer that I have Elements 8 on - from my old Cubase 4.x version - wonder if it would work with 9.5?
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/23 23:57:03
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With Cubase, how does licensing work? I've heard about an e-Licenser, do I need that for Cubase? Presumably it's a USB dongle type solution? Is it a proprietary thing or can I use any USB stick? If not, can I at least use iLok? I have my Waves/IK/Overloud on a USB stick and I really don't want to use multiple ports on my laptop just for dongles.
Cubase Elements uses a software based elicenser and Cubase Artist and Pro utilize a USB elicenser which is different than an ilok. I travel extensively and use a simple non powered hub that I got at Best Buy for $7 and run my audio interface, wireless mouse, elicenser, and ilok without any issue on multiple computers. All the best, Greg
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:07:01
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Thanks for the info, Greg. I appreciate that a non-powered hub works but it's another piece of clutter to carry around (and possibly lose or break) and not a point in favor of Cubase. ARA support is another important one for me, so I guess I will mainly have to see if StudioOne is advanced enough for my other needs.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:22:46
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☄ Helpfulby SuperG 2017/11/24 01:32:45
I'm not sure why people are so against the dongle e licenser. For me it's been the most trouble free system of activation.
No use complaining it's very successful for them and the handfull of potential customers they might loose over it are more than made up for in the lack of piracy they experiance. You can't even join the forum with out a registration.
Certainly as simple as first Install to Computer A, then move it to computer B and install Wave Lab, move it to computer C and install Wave Lab and on and on. NO INTERNET needed after the dongle has been loaded with your licences. I install Wave Lab and Cubase 5LE from the Disks and as long as the dongle is there it works. And I think the same dongle works for a lot of other brands of software too. So you get more milage out of the $35 if you use more than one software with it. Sure it hogs a USB port but that's only an issue on a Laptop. And a cheap HUB solves the problem, share your port with your wireless mouse.
Because of our numbers, I see an opportunity here to shape the future of other DAWs. Say we all say, sure, we'll give you our money,, but could you please add these features, or at least think about them. Example I really need Melodyn to turn my Audio bass parts into midi, this is paramount to my workflow now. So Cubase is out for me until that happens.
It would be my first choice otherwise as I'm already comfortable from using Cubase 5 LE. You want stability I can't think of even once that either Wave Lab or Cubase ever acted up on me.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:46:53
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So is there a demo of Cubase 9.5 (or 9 or 8...) that we can download and try? I have an eLicenser if needed, just cant find a demo anywhere.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:50:25
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1. If one buys the crossgrade - does it work right away or does one have to hear back from Steinberg about giving them the Sonar serial number or something?
2. Can both Cubase 9.5. and Sonar Platinum exist on the computer at the same time without causing problems?
THANKS in advance!
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:54:42
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The VariAudio functionality in Cubase can already take an audio bass part and turn it into MIDI in case you did not know.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:57:15
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I'm not thanking Cubase for anything!
And this makes my point of another post earlier today! RUDE Vultures!
Posting an ad here is WRONG, in bad tasted and IS against forum rules!!!
Yet pinned here by a host!
There is NO debate here! This is an AD! and at a time when heads are spinning on what to do next? Where should we spend our cash? Cubase is trying to take advantage of a state of confusion and spontaneous buying!
Do you really want to put your recording future with a company that would do this?
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:57:17
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I'm not sure why people are so against the dongle e licenser. For me it's been the most trouble free system of activation.
No use complaining it's very successful for them and the handfull of potential customers they might loose over it are more than made up for in the lack of piracy they experiance. You can't even join the forum with out a registration.
Certainly as simple as first Install to Computer A, then move it to computer B and install Wave Lab, move it to computer C and install Wave Lab and on and on. NO INTERNET needed after the dongle has been loaded with your licences. I install Wave Lab and Cubase 5LE from the Disks and as long as the dongle is there it works. And I think the same dongle works for a lot of other brands of software too. So you get more milage out of the $35 if you use more than one software with it. Sure it hogs a USB port but that's only an issue on a Laptop. And a cheap HUB solves the problem, share your port with your wireless mouse.
Because of our numbers, I see an opportunity here to shape the future of other DAWs. Say we all say, sure, we'll give you our money,, but could you please add these features, or at least think about them. Example I really need Melodyn to turn my Audio bass parts into midi, this is paramount to my workflow now. So Cubase is out for me until that happens.
It would be my first choice otherwise as I'm already comfortable from using Cubase 5 LE. You want stability I can't think of even once that either Wave Lab or Cubase ever acted up on me.
We would love to get your feedback as a group. The VariAudio editor in Cubase Pro currently does take an audio bass part and transcribe it into MIDI. All the best,
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:57:59
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/24 05:08:42
Cubase is a fine program. I am well versed in it, and have used it much in the past. They even use my Quadrafuzz processor in there, and they were very kind to make sure it had my blessing before they released it.
I think the point that is being missed here is that every DAW has a different personality, different set of strengths, and aims for a different target audience. It is not the job of the software to align with your needs, it is your job to find out which software aligns best with your needs. There are some people for example who would use Cubase and couldn't stand the thought of using Reason. But there are others who would use Reason and find Cubase cumbersome.
You really owe it to yourselves to download demos and play with these programs for a while, rather than obsess about crossgrade prices, how it's licensed, etc. Find out which program has good "chemistry" with you, learn it, and make great music. Although these programs have many similarities, it is the differences that will cause people to choose one over the other. No single program does it all or is bug-free...YOU have to choose the one that comes closest to your needs.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 00:59:23
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Because of our numbers, I see an opportunity here to shape the future of other DAWs. Say we all say, sure, we'll give you our money,, but could you please add these features, or at least think about them. Example I really need Melodyn to turn my Audio bass parts into midi, this is paramount to my workflow now. So Cubase is out for me until that happens.
It would be my first choice otherwise as I'm already comfortable from using Cubase 5 LE. You want stability I can't think of even once that either Wave Lab or Cubase ever acted up on me.
The VariAudio in Cubase is excellent, and allows you to easily extract MIDI from any audio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWodn2mhMB8
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:05:00
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I'm not thanking Cubase for anything!
And this makes my point of another post earlier today! RUDE Vultures!
Posting an ad here is WRONG, in bad tasted and IS against forum rules!!!
Yet pinned here by a host!
There is NO debate here! This is an AD! and at a time when heads are spinning on what to do next? Where should we spend our cash? Cubase is trying to take advantage of a state of confusion and spontaneous buying!
Do you really want to put your recording future with a company that would do this?
Yes, I see your point. But users are posting rumours and hearsay throughout the forum. Cakewalk is no longer trading, the store is closed, 3rd party retailers are removing Sonar from their stores. The "ad" is making Sonar users aware of a special offer. In the interest of commercial fairness... I've been talking to Rick Naqvi, VP of sales at PreSonus. They will be announcing a special offer for Sonar users on Tuesday.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:14:25
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Anderton
You really owe it to yourselves to download demos and play with these programs for a while, rather than obsess about crossgrade prices, how it's licensed, etc.
I'm not obsessing. It's just where I draw the line. I understand other people feel differently.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:31:55
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One thing about Cubase , that I wish Sonar had implemented, is the way you can import a video...and drag the video just like an audio track...that's really helpful for scoring to picture. Sonar was really archaic using video...having to use an avi was crazy, then not really being able to move the video around . I put up with that for years .. I used Sonar for 20 years, putting up with the crashing, witch is is STILL doing regularly, but I didnt want to switch and learn a new DAW because it would take a lot of time and slow me down...Maybe this is a good thing , to force a switch.
I just saw this cool thing in Cubase where you have a sampler track, can drag midi or audio onto that track, or just a piece, whatever, and you now can trigger that audio with a keyboard, playing as a pitched instrument spread out all over the keyboard, manipulte the sound , etc , just like any other sampler. and it only takes a few seconds.....really cool!
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:41:20
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Do you really want to put your recording future with a company that would do this?
Yes, I would, and am thankful that Cubase AND Studio One (you did see they are "vultures" as well?) are trying to help out Sonar users. You clearly don't like Cubase, and your are entitled to your opinion.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:42:06
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11Dreams
I'm not thanking Cubase for anything!
And this makes my point of another post earlier today! RUDE Vultures!
Posting an ad here is WRONG, in bad tasted and IS against forum rules!!!
Yet pinned here by a host!
There is NO debate here! This is an AD! and at a time when heads are spinning on what to do next? Where should we spend our cash? Cubase is trying to take advantage of a state of confusion and spontaneous buying!
Do you really want to put your recording future with a company that would do this?
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:43:53
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Does anyone know if you can install the "same" license on two computers if you have two ELicensers?
One thing I have enjoyed about Sonar is the ability to have it installed on my DAW computer, as well as my Surface.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:47:00
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/24 12:34:04
ok guys, lets keep this thread on topic...
Discussion of the merits (or otherwise) of moving to Cubase only please.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:48:36
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Does anyone know if you can install the "same" license on two computers if you have two ELicensers?
One thing I have enjoyed about Sonar is the ability to have it installed on my DAW computer, as well as my Surface.
Your license is held on a USB key thing. You can install on as many machines as you can find, but only the one with the key will work. If you have 2 keys....
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:53:50
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Could you post that Sweetwater link? I'm not seeing that price on Sweetwater...just the $325 crossgrade price
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:57:22
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dannyjmusic
Could you post that Sweetwater link? I'm not seeing that price on Sweetwater...just the $325 crossgrade price
It will be live tomorrow.
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
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Re: message from Greg Ondo of Steinberg
2017/11/24 01:59:11
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Greg, will there be a 9.5 demo released before the Sonar crossgrade offer goes away? And does Melodyne function well in Cubase? I'm seeing a few posts about lack of ARA support and I'm not sure if this is necessary for Melodyne to work in a DAW. Thanks for the offer and any reply!
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