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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 11:43:55
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Brian Walton
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lifetime license sounds really nice,
but what really matters is the licensing/activation system,
with all respect to Cakewalk, CCC is not pleasure to work with,
for serious studio use of Sonar, computers being completely offline (due to security and functional reasons), it appears fairly impossible to use Sonar - I would really like to see something like "export iLok license" within CCC, so it would be possible to run Sonar on offline production computers
For this, you use offline activation.
I hope they never go iLok
Using the CCC and trying to install it on a computer not conected to the internet, was a pretty major pain.
I spent many hours yesterday trying to get it to actually install. I had various problems, trying on different Win 7 computers to determine if there was perhaps an issue with one of them, etc..(these are all computers that run X3 Producer perfectly). Even connecting to the internet instead of the real off-line activation.
I still don't know why I installed it with the CCC, got the green light and the launch button. Yet nothing happened after hitting launch. Nothing. I eventually just launched the .exe by itself to try to get it to work. I'm concerned that the CCC isn't going to see it on the next update, and I don't know how any overrides are going to work and I don't have the disc space to let installs pile up.
Sheesh. CCC is an "online" tool. Trying to use it offline is not much different than driving a screw with a hammer or a band saw. Something might happen, but probably not what you expected. If you are an offline user and have limited disk space, why not invest a few $ in a USB drive to store the historical installers that you manually downloaded? If you had to roll back would you really need to roll back to Jan 2015 in May 2016? I think not. Copy over the last two or possibly three updates form the USB to hard drive and roll back.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 11:57:29
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bapu
Brian Walton
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tzzsmk
lifetime license sounds really nice,
but what really matters is the licensing/activation system,
with all respect to Cakewalk, CCC is not pleasure to work with,
for serious studio use of Sonar, computers being completely offline (due to security and functional reasons), it appears fairly impossible to use Sonar - I would really like to see something like "export iLok license" within CCC, so it would be possible to run Sonar on offline production computers
For this, you use offline activation.
I hope they never go iLok
Using the CCC and trying to install it on a computer not conected to the internet, was a pretty major pain.
I spent many hours yesterday trying to get it to actually install. I had various problems, trying on different Win 7 computers to determine if there was perhaps an issue with one of them, etc..(these are all computers that run X3 Producer perfectly). Even connecting to the internet instead of the real off-line activation.
I still don't know why I installed it with the CCC, got the green light and the launch button. Yet nothing happened after hitting launch. Nothing. I eventually just launched the .exe by itself to try to get it to work. I'm concerned that the CCC isn't going to see it on the next update, and I don't know how any overrides are going to work and I don't have the disc space to let installs pile up.
Sheesh. CCC is an "on;ine" tool.
Trying to use it offline is not much different than driving a screw with a hammer or a band saw. Something might happen, but probably not what you expected.
If you are an offline user and have limited disk space, why not invest a few $ in a USB drive to store the historical installers that you manually downloaded? If you had to roll back would you really need to roll back to Jan 2015 in May 2016? I think not. Copy over the last two or possibly three updates form the USB to hard drive and roll back.
I used USBs to get the files to the computer. That does not in any way help the installer problems I experienced. The CCC checks the files in the downloaded folder, which is where I placed the files. It is no different than actually download them through the app itself. The other question is how the installs override previous installs. It was not a question of having the installer file itself on the HD.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 12:05:54
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....Switching over to the Mac is not something I would consider in the near future for myself, but I may be the minority...
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 12:34:52
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Exactly, that's what it looks like at least! Is this the case? Anyone with Producer can get lifetime Platinum for $199?
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 12:41:12
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WallyG
cheez
....Switching over to the Mac is not something I would consider in the near future for myself, but I may be the minority...
Well, that's two of us...
Walt
Make it three! I think most existing SONAR users aren't going to run out and buy really expensive and more difficult to upgrade hardware just to get the same features at the same performance. So I think there are probably more than 3.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 13:25:27
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There was something for everyone in the three facets of this announcement. Those of you in the 'meh' class might need meds.
Many thanks to the bakers for lots of hard work pushed through at a remarkably low cost.
There was nothing for those of us who wanted improvements in staff view.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 15:45:23
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Brian Walton
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tzzsmk
lifetime license sounds really nice,
but what really matters is the licensing/activation system,
with all respect to Cakewalk, CCC is not pleasure to work with,
for serious studio use of Sonar, computers being completely offline (due to security and functional reasons), it appears fairly impossible to use Sonar - I would really like to see something like "export iLok license" within CCC, so it would be possible to run Sonar on offline production computers
For this, you use offline activation.
I hope they never go iLok
Using the CCC and trying to install it on a computer not conected to the internet, was a pretty major pain.
I spent many hours yesterday trying to get it to actually install. I had various problems, trying on different Win 7 computers to determine if there was perhaps an issue with one of them, etc..(these are all computers that run X3 Producer perfectly). Even connecting to the internet instead of the real off-line activation.
I still don't know why I installed it with the CCC, got the green light and the launch button. Yet nothing happened after hitting launch. Nothing. I eventually just launched the .exe by itself to try to get it to work. I'm concerned that the CCC isn't going to see it on the next update, and I don't know how any overrides are going to work and I don't have the disc space to let installs pile up.
I should have been more precise. I meant to download from your cakewalk account, install with the .exe, and then activate offline. Hope it helps. All the best.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 15:55:26
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SilkTone
WallyG
cheez
....Switching over to the Mac is not something I would consider in the near future for myself, but I may be the minority...
Well, that's two of us...
Walt
Make it three!
I think most existing SONAR users aren't going to run out and buy really expensive and more difficult to upgrade hardware just to get the same features at the same performance. So I think there are probably more than 3.
We are at least 4..
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 16:39:11
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Well, I decided to go for the lifetime Platinum option. I'm hoping it'll be worth it, depends on if they come up with some decent upgrades....They may not come up with anything, but my experience with Cakewalk has always been very good, they usually give a very good bang for the buck experience. I haven't been doing much recording lately, so I had to really rethink my situation. I decided I want the most up to date recording software I can get, just for the times when inspiration hits. I may not use it today or tomorrow, but I want to be ready for when the time comes. Sonar Platinum has been working rock solid for me since I bought it years ago...so keeping it up to date makes sense to me. My birthday is coming up soon so I decided what the heck, this would make a nice present to myself.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 18:13:01
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You know my first version of this software was the dos version that was just a midi program with no audio. I have purchased every new version since then. I have a lot of money invested since 1987 and for the most part I am very happy to date. This latest marketing turn is a bit worrisome but, I'm going to keep my fingers and toes crossed that the bean counters and sales guys haven't released the Kraken.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 18:58:02
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vladasyn
I kind of liked subscription model. It felt as an assurance that Gibson will stay interested in developing Sonar farther. Now- if nobody pays any more- what is the motivation to roll out updates?
If anything there will be more motivation since its even more important to get new users onboard to generate revenue.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 19:24:47
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2016/06/03 01:26:03
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
vladasyn
I kind of liked subscription model. It felt as an assurance that Gibson will stay interested in developing Sonar farther. Now- if nobody pays any more- what is the motivation to roll out updates?
If anything there will be more motivation since its even more important to get new users onboard to generate revenue.
Neil, there is radio silence here on the subject of the Jan $99 users vs. those who continued to pay monthly. In essence the amount to be paid is $199 - and those who paid $99 at the start of the year need only pay $99 to close it out and upgrade to "Lifetime". For those of us who didn't take up the offer in January the amount is $199, but by the end of the year we would have paid (during 2016) $199 + each instalment . If I take-up the offer in August as I plan to then to move to Lifetime I would have paid considerably more. Had I known that this would be the situation then I would have paid the $99 in January, clearly. It seems to me that those who continued to be faithful to Cakewalk, and continue on the subscription model are being penalised for not taking up the January offer, which is especially hard to take because this was not forewarned. I think it fair that you re-evaluate what you have put together to do the right thing by your faithful subscribers. The $199 offer should be reduced by an amount that considers the monthly payments already made. After all, this is the exact logic that Cakewalk have applied to the $99 crowd - that a pro rata situation exists for amounts already committed. It is nonsensical not to look after both groups equally.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/02 20:06:01
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So if you only have monthly updates the price is different? I had Platinum with monthly payment since 1/21/2015. Not $99 then? Thanks!
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 00:54:09
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Guys, seriously, don't feed the trolls. Ignore that comment and let's move on. They obviously registered an account on this forum just to start trouble. Nothing good will come from arguing with them. If we continue the argument, anyone that visits this thread, including curious Apple users who might want to find some information about Sonar, is going to enter an all out flame war and that's not going to help anyone.
post edited by skitch_84 - 2016/06/03 01:18:16
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 01:06:33
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☄ Helpfulby skitch_84 2016/06/03 01:31:05
Chris... I'm lovin the block feature... it removes the worthless clutter... I have enough of that in my ole brain! On the other hand, I personally know several apple users who've expressed frustration that Sonar isn't available to them. We should welcome such humans warmly, with open arms... The bakers are very smart to enter this teratory with the free version. While I have never gotten into the higher cost of the closed apple ecosystem, it is a huge musical landscape and I'm totally stoked Cakewalk is finally entering into it. Block the flamers; welcome those truly intrigued by the prospects... We're ALL artists here, whatever platform we are on.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 01:18:32
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bapu
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Bought the lifetime sub yesterday. This morning, SONAR | About told me I'm good until 12/24/2037!
Christmas Eve.
Do the Bakers have another present in store for us in 21 years?
And my new G&L guitar is on the UPS truck out for delivery.
What a day!!!
After you get the latest update from CCC (or manually install) you should have the infinity symbol.
I've got the 12/24/2037 too. No infinity symbol.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 02:42:40
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☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2016/06/03 08:28:25
Mine says it will expire 25/12/2037 (or 25/12/2037 in American).
I am not sure why the monthly payers feel they are being unfairly treated. The presumed the discount for annual subscribers isn't because of the months already consumed, it is for the months they have paid for that they have not consumed. Otherwise there would be double dipping. The perpetual license is for all future months, including those already covered by the upfront annual fee. Hence the reduction. Monthly subscribers have not paid anything in advance.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 02:47:26
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Mine says it will expire 25/12/2037 (or 25/12/2037 in American).
I am not sure why the monthly payers feel they are being unfairly treated. The presumed the discount for annual subscribers isn't because of the months already consumed, it is for the months they have paid for that they have not consumed. Otherwise there would be double dipping. The perpetual license is for all future months, including those already covered by the upfront annual fee. Hence the reduction. Monthly subscribers have not paid anything in advance.
This is my understanding as well.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 03:10:26
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/06/03 16:27:24
skitch_84
AlanPerkins
Mine says it will expire 25/12/2037 (or 25/12/2037 in American).
I am not sure why the monthly payers feel they are being unfairly treated. The presumed the discount for annual subscribers isn't because of the months already consumed, it is for the months they have paid for that they have not consumed. Otherwise there would be double dipping. The perpetual license is for all future months, including those already covered by the upfront annual fee. Hence the reduction. Monthly subscribers have not paid anything in advance.
This is my understanding as well.
So it would seem… but do the math on this. If I take-up Lifetime right now my total outlay for Sonar in 2016 will be $199 for the upgrade + the 5 monthly subscription fees I’ve already paid (5 x $15). That equals $275. On the other hand, if I had taken up the $99 offer in January, then I would have paid $99 then and another $99 now to move to Lifetime. That’s $198. That’s around $75 difference for the same period for the same level of Cakewalk experience. Worse, if I wait until August to move to Lifetime, my total outlay for 2016 becomes $320. The $199 offer is stagnant between now and the end of August, so the longer I leave it the more I have to pay overall (as I continue to pay the monthly subscription until then). Bottom line is that one stream of customers (the $99 guys) and those who passed on that offer to stay on monthly subscriptions are paying vastly different amounts overall for the same period. It's black and white. It's in the numbers above. The fact that no one from Cakewalk has responded to this at all in this thread to me shows that its an oversight on their behalf that they don’t know how to elegantly respond to. I’d like them to review the situation and make it fair.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 03:18:03
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Dreamstation
If I take-up Lifetime right now my total outlay for Sonar in 2016 will be $199 for the upgrade + the 5 monthly subscription fees I’ve already paid (5 x $15). That equals $275. On the other hand, if I had taken up the $99 offer in January, then I would have paid $99 then and another $99 now to move to Lifetime. That’s $198. That’s around $75 difference for the same period for the same level of Cakewalk experience.
But isn't that slightly less than the price difference that existed in the previous agreement? $99 up front Vs $180 Monthly (12x15) = $81 advantage. Seems to me not much has changed. There has always been a price advantage to paying up front.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 03:32:56
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Total expected to pay on monthly: $15 x 12 = $180
Represented by:
Amount paid: $15 x 5 = $75
Total no longer payable $15 * 7 = $105
Total due for perpetuity: $199
Equals total for this year of $180 - 105 + 199 = 75 + 199 = $274.
Total expected to pay on annual (full price) $199 x 1
Represented by:
Months consumed: $199/12 x 5 = $82.92
Months remaining: $199/12/ x 7 = $116.08
Total due for perpetuity: $99
Equals total for this year of $199 + $99 = $298
So the real difference here is not between the models, but the fact that there was an incentive earlier in the year to get on the annual program. Dreamstation has a point if the retrospective special price is taken into account, but that is not the actual price for the product - the actual price is $199, and the intrinsic value remaining in the subscription, regardless of what was paid for it, is $199/7 assuming 7 months remain.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 05:23:12
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I also decided to go for the lifetime updates. Seems like a bargain to me :)
Anyway, having purchased it do I have to download anything or will it just work for any future updates?
I only ask as it only shows Sonar Platinum under "my products" on my account and also CCC doesn't show any changes. Sonar itself also doesn't state "with lifetime updates" anywhere.
Is this normal?
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 06:08:16
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AlanPerkins
I am not sure why the monthly payers feel they are being unfairly treated. The presumed the discount for annual subscribers isn't because of the months already consumed, it is for the months they have paid for that they have not consumed. Otherwise there would be double dipping. The perpetual license is for all future months, including those already covered by the upfront annual fee. Hence the reduction. Monthly subscribers have not paid anything in advance.
Tend to disagree, because then they would not require you to have started with Plat AND renewed. I also paid until December, but I still have to pay $199 for the lifetime. The $99 is purely a loyalty offer, and that's fine by me.
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kennywtelejazz
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:06:27
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OK , let me ask this again .
Is there any documentation for SONAR OSX Alpha for Mac besides the announcement ?
Also ,
What versions of the Mac operating system is SONAR OSX Alpha gonna be compatible with and how far back will the OS compatibility go ?
thank you in advance ,
Kenny
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:08:38
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/06/03 16:22:32
Runs off floppy disc on System 7 only.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:12:49
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John T
Runs off floppy disc on System 7 only.
 don't quit your day gig .... Hey Bro I really want to know , I cant wait to ditch the Focusrite and use my Apogee audio interface in SONAR  Kenny
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:24:53
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They did say, I think in the CakeTV video, that initially during the Alpha test phase, it will only support interfaces that are Core Audio compatible. But that's about all the information to date, I think.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:53:56
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John T
They did say, I think in the CakeTV video, that initially during the Alpha test phase, it will only support interfaces that are Core Audio compatible. But that's about all the information to date, I think.
Is this is the video that you are referring to ?, They never mentioned what different versions of the Mac operating systems SONAR OSX Alpha for Mac will be compatible with ... In Windows I run Win 10 64 bit . On Mac I'm running about what the equivalent of what Win 7 would be ... The interface I mentioned before is core audio only . Kenny
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 08:59:59
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☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2016/06/03 11:55:29
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 10:31:55
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Let's see:
Under the older scheme, I would have paid:
$149 for Platinum upgrade when it came out
$199 for Next Year for which I would have had several months left.
= $348 until the end of my 2nd year with more $199 annual payments to follow.
The way it worked out:
$149 for Platinum upgrade when it came out
$ 99 for Next year (nice discount)
$ 99 to push to unending updates.
= $346 but no longer have to pay for updates until I crash or Cakewalk goes out of business.
I'm pleased that spending an equivalent amount of money over 2 years gets me more in the end. If Sonar goes away for whatever business reasons, it would have happened anyway under both schemes.
Having a Mac version will probably be a bonus for the company because no Mac users can now run Sonar other than through the clunky PC emulation path. I think there will be a large influx of Mac users initially and if Sonar performs as well as it does for PC users on the Mac, it should take hold.
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