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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 10:47:35
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John T
They did say, I think in the CakeTV video, that initially during the Alpha test phase, it will only support interfaces that are Core Audio compatible. But that's about all the information to date, I think.
Is this is the video that you are referring to ?,
They never mentioned what different versions of the Mac operating systems SONAR OSX Alpha for Mac will be compatible with ...
In Windows I run Win 10 64 bit . On Mac I'm running about what the equivalent of what Win 7 would be ...
The interface I mentioned before is core audio only .
Kenny
That means you're quite a few revisions back on OSX. I have two boot partitions on my iMac one with OSX 10.8.5 and OSX 10.9.5. I might be interested in the new Sonar IF I could open my old Sonar 8 Producer projects. That's where I jumped from Sonar on Windows to PT on a Mac and then Digital Performer on the same machine. Current OSX is ElCrapitan (OSX 10.11.x)
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 11:56:00
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☄ Helpfulby Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk] 2016/06/03 13:37:14
Well I had to pay the $199 because I didn't upgrade in January. But what surprised me was that I was up till 2:00 AM last night downloading and installing stuff. I thought I was fairly current, but I got soooo much stuff last night it's ridiculous. So I already have received a ton of updates that make my Sonar Platinum a monster program !!! It's going to take me a week just to get to know everything that's there. I looked around a little last night and was very much impressed with what I saw. I'm already getting my bang for the buck...
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 12:17:56
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jackn2mpu
kennywtelejazz
John T
They did say, I think in the CakeTV video, that initially during the Alpha test phase, it will only support interfaces that are Core Audio compatible. But that's about all the information to date, I think.
Is this is the video that you are referring to ?,
They never mentioned what different versions of the Mac operating systems SONAR OSX Alpha for Mac will be compatible with ...
In Windows I run Win 10 64 bit . On Mac I'm running about what the equivalent of what Win 7 would be ...
The interface I mentioned before is core audio only .
Kenny
That means you're quite a few revisions back on OSX. I have two boot partitions on my iMac one with OSX 10.8.5 and OSX 10.9.5. I might be interested in the new Sonar IF I could open my old Sonar 8 Producer projects. That's where I jumped from Sonar on Windows to PT on a Mac and then Digital Performer on the same machine.
Current OSX is ElCrapitan (OSX 10.11.x)
Yes , Lion on an i Mac & SnowLepard on a MacBook ...hhmmm , I'm a little behind the times huh?  I may be S.O.L. for SONAR OSX Alpha with those specs ...Oh well, if that's the case ..it will not change a thing .  I will still run SONAR in Win 10 and run all the other cool stuff I have on the Macs ... thanks .... jackn2mpu
kennywtelejazz
John T
Runs off floppy disc on System 7 only.
don't quit your day gig ....
Hey Bro I really want to know , I cant wait to ditch the Focusrite and use my Apogee audio interface in SONAR
Kenny
JT's just being the same old person I knew from long ago.
J T , He seems alright , just keep in mind where and who you just got that recommendation from .... Back East where I'm from they used to call me Este Loco ; ) all the best, Kenny
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 12:23:29
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I don't remember this Jack guy at all.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 12:47:14
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John T
I don't remember this Jack guy at all.
So, what you're saying is you can't remember Jack? I'll get my coat...
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 12:47:27
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I don't use Mac unless I have to.
- I see Sonar for Mac as a big opportunity if PC & Mac projects are 100 % compatible - 99,99 % will not cut it, and the user has nothing to do, can simply send the project per email or put it on a server, and s/he doesn't have to care if the receiver has a Mac or a PC. This would definitely make Sonar more of a ProTools challenger.
- I would hope a Sonar licence would be valid for both Mac and Windows.
- On the other hand, there is really no way this won't slow development on Windows, it will simply take more developer resources from Cakewalk, even if 80 % of the code is cross platform.
I have been super happy with my one year subscription to Sonar Platinum, which just ended mid may. I had my doubts, but in my opinion the suscription was well worth it.
Now I must say I have my doubts about the for life sub, since its almost 50 % more expensive than the one year sub I paid, and if I understand correctly only Sonar core will be updated.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 12:50:50
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Pricing aside:
This is what I have been wondering and find no clarity:
So, I buy the life-time Sonar updates: what do I get updates for? I assume it is for the core program, and the plugins, and instruments, included when installed. Yes?
I also assume this will mean I "own" the program, in that it will never revert to trial mode.
I then need to buy a membership to get the new stuff included with the monthly releases. Yes?
This makes sense to me.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 13:18:19
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YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Pricing aside:
This is what I have been wondering and find no clarity:
So, I buy the life-time Sonar updates: what do I get updates for? I assume it is for the core program, and the plugins, and instruments, included when installed. Yes?
I also assume this will mean I "own" the program, in that it will never revert to trial mode.
I then need to buy a membership to get the new stuff included with the monthly releases. Yes?
This makes sense to me.
If you have lifetime updates, you'll get everything SONAR Platinum has today and all future rolling updates. You don't need any further membership, you'll be all set.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:19:07
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Hi
I think its a shame that we have to pay for lifetime updates ,,those of us who have been with platinum since the start. when those just buying platinum for the first time will set for life ,,no renewal cost like i have and you to have paid since platinum started ..besides companies like fractal audio do this kind of thing all the time for FREE. give me a break
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:30:43
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sounds to me like sonar platinum will come to a screaching halt soon after everybody has bought into this updates for life down the road when the next latest and greatest comes out .why should we have to pay for fixes anyway.. i am a little disappointed with CW . i bet we will end up paying for some cool new feature that wont be included in the updates for life promise.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:32:38
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/06/03 16:23:54
so did anyone elses price for lifetime updates go up while waiting for june 1st announcement?
i held off after logging in a couple of weeks ago and seeing a $149 upgrade cost - thinking it was a smart thing to do
as cakewalk was pushing this big announcement so hard.
announcement comes - has pretty much zero impact - and now i am being charged $199 after no warning of a pending price increase. for some reason i did take a screenshot of my shopping cart back then showing the initial price, but still no response from support.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:37:56
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/06/03 17:29:56
Well even if you spend $2,000 on a guitar, you still have to update the strings every so often. It's just a fact of life.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:38:43
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:39:49
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/06/03 16:24:08
perfectprint
so did anyone elses price for lifetime updates go up while waiting for june 1st announcement?
i held off after logging in a couple of weeks ago and seeing a $149 upgrade cost - thinking it was a smart thing to do
as cakewalk was pushing this big announcement so hard.
announcement comes - has pretty much zero impact - and now i am being charged $199 after no warning of a pending price increase. for some reason i did take a screenshot of my shopping cart back then showing the initial price, but still no response from support.
Yes, the same has happened to me. My price went up after the June 1st announcement came out. No response for me either.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:52:51
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i would not pay the 199 it will go down just give some time it always does i paid 99.00 renewal in march 2016 but it was 149.00 in jan 2016
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 14:57:33
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$99 was a promotional price for an annual renewal, it does not include lifetime upgrades.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:00:48
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yea i know i just was making the point that the price could go down just like the renewal always did but maybe it wont
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:12:52
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Just got another email from Cakewalk...is this a typo? The header says the lifetime updates are $99 still.
"You spoke, we listened, and starting at just $49, you can get Lifetime Updates for SONAR Platinum."
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:16:05
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Depends on if a renewal was purchased for this year and how much was paid. From http://www.cakewalk.com/June-2016#SONAR4Life
I just renewed SONAR Platinum this year. Do I still have to pay the full $199?No, your price will be $199 minus the amount you paid when you purchased your renewal. Click here to see your price.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:20:05
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Yes I got the same email I don't know what the $49 is all about but when I go to my card they want to charge me $99 for the lifetime updates which would be the special price for those who renewed for $99 those that renewed for 1:49 they would probably get the $49 price
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:21:01
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Is "Update" and "Upgrade" the same thing in this scenario?
Usually updates are free (bug fixes, etc.) but upgrades (to the next version) cost extra.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:24:56
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rickssonar
Hi
I think its a shame that we have to pay for lifetime updates ,,those of us who have been with platinum since the start. when those just buying platinum for the first time will set for life ,,no renewal cost like i have and you to have paid since platinum started ..besides companies like fractal audio do this kind of thing all the time for FREE. give me a break
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Don't buy it then,it's their product ,they worked on it,they can charge as much as they want .
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:30:44
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SH
Is "Update" and "Upgrade" the same thing in this scenario?
Usually updates are free (bug fixes, etc.) but upgrades (to the next version) cost extra.
An upgrade would be from Artist to Pro, or Pro to Plat or Artist to Plat. Updates means new content, new features, revised features and yes... bug fixes, for the version you currently have. Edit to add: A new Upgrade option, Any version of Sonar to Sonar Plat LIFETIME. (Price of upgrade varies depending on what you start with)
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:35:49
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rickssonar
Yes I got the same email I don't know what the $49 is all about but when I go to my card they want to charge me $99 for the lifetime updates which would be the special price for those who renewed for $99 those that renewed for 1:49 they would probably get the $49 price
It starts at $49. So for example, people who bought the membership renewal this month at $149, would only pay the difference, $49. If you paid $99, you'd pay another $99. That was explained in earlier emails. Most people purchased it at $99 so that's the bulk of pricing you'll likely see.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:37:08
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rickssonar
i would not pay the 199 it will go down just give some time it always does i paid 99.00 renewal in march 2016 but it was 149.00 in jan 2016
I wouldn't necessarily count on it. I don't think we are charging a lot for lifetime updates to be honest. But you are free to wait.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:38:22
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SH
Is "Update" and "Upgrade" the same thing in this scenario?
Usually updates are free (bug fixes, etc.) but upgrades (to the next version) cost extra.
Yes, any new SONAR feature we introduce will be included in lifetime updates. We stopped doing version numbers. We like working on one version better and just incrementally improving.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 15:39:23
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
rickssonar
i would not pay the 199 it will go down just give some time it always does i paid 99.00 renewal in march 2016 but it was 149.00 in jan 2016
I wouldn't necessarily count on it. I don't think we are charging a lot for lifetime updates to be honest. But you are free to wait.
I heard the price will change in September...
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 16:00:16
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Zargg71
SilkTone
WallyG
cheez
....Switching over to the Mac is not something I would consider in the near future for myself, but I may be the minority...
Well, that's two of us...
Walt
Make it three!
I think most existing SONAR users aren't going to run out and buy really expensive and more difficult to upgrade hardware just to get the same features at the same performance. So I think there are probably more than 3.
We are at least 4..
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/03 16:09:07
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rickssonar
Hi
I think its a shame that we have to pay for lifetime updates ,,those of us who have been with platinum since the start. when those just buying platinum for the first time will set for life ,,no renewal cost like i have and you to have paid since platinum started ..besides companies like fractal audio do this kind of thing all the time for FREE. give me a break
I don't think this is note entirely true. If you upgraded to Platinum from X3, you did not pay full price. If someone buys today with no Sonar, they pay close to $500 (I am not sure). It also states on sites other than Cakewalk that the lifetime updates will only be available until August 31st. Therefore, first time buyers must buy by then or lose the opportunity (I guess they want to attract the new business fast).
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