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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
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I will buy, because I like x3e when it behaves....not too into all the features yet, but am getting good results until a few weeks ago....something is causing issues...so yes maybe a refresh and update is good....I do not mind spending and supporting Goodness and fareness in my eye of the Lords word...fare is far, and work is work ...if I have to trouble shoot this new version and find bugs and work arounds as I do now....then that should be paid back....hmmmm?...so thanks for the lower price tag on the upgrade scheme....as usual I will go into darkness and shine light on it.....But to pay for support...when it was free for old users, means I want improvements to tech support, who know systems, and can remote connect to any system, and see what is amuck.....until it is either solved, or labled and fixed in a fix for my system.....as not all system are alike...and I know cakewalk cannot test on every machine known or made....We are bata testing always!....So I hope it is ready...and I hope I have little use of tech support when I do buy....But if I pay for tech support Like I have with MS, I want the bug rooted out by the tech...and I sip mead while done for me....because I hate loosing hair and time doing it now....I want to make music, not technical solutions for software conflicts with MS oses or find workarounds for my gear anymore if I pay.....think it out, because you may need this implemented to gain full support of many!....Just thinking outside my box...hope the same comes to mind....is all.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 13:52:04
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Sir Les
because I am fed up with trouble shooting pc and software for music, to make it work, and then something happens to screw it all up....like once Sonar did do....It sucks!...and other MS updates do from time to time..just to keep us loonies of the billing table and phone calling, press 9 for x...2 for p.
I've always found Cake phone support fast and easy... especially if you do the following. 1) Create an email support request with a thorough description of the problem, your system specs and the Sonar version you are on as well as any third party plugins and programs you may be using or have installed (including non music related stuff). 2) Write down the ticket number for the support email 3) Call them and reference the support ticket number at the start of the phone call. That way they can pull up all the info on their screen and see everything without you having to tell them. 4) If they need extra time to check everything out they'll send you a followup email which, as a Canadian, may save you some long distance charges. You also have a typed copy of their suggestions to keep on file. If they don't offer that request it. Much better than MS... by FAR. Also I get all skeeved out by remote tech support. Just something unnerving about someone poking around my computer from afar. Also... before installing ANYTHING on your DAW create a restore point. That way if things go funky you can just revert to the restore point until you figure out the problem. This should be standard procedure on any critical systems. If you are ultra paranoid make a System Image and back it up on an external drive or DVDs and it will restore EVERYTHING (including your files... but will wipe out any new data). Win 7 has tools for both those things but you can use something like Acronys or one of the other big name backup softwares which are more reliable. Salud.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 13:58:13
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Beepster
Actually that's always been their official policy (ie: once the new version came out the old version was technically no longer supported) but they always still helped out.
You're probably right, I always read that as related to the availability of fixes and updates so didn't connect it to tech support as such.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 13:59:27
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150 bucks a year to keep on the upgrade spine of a monster like Sonar sounds like value to me. And in reality it's pretty much what we've been doing since Pro Audio - who can resist the new toys!? I just hope the UK price reflects the actual rate ($150=about £98) and they don't just swap $ for £. It's software, there's no shipping.
Just one more thing....please tell me the NOW time doesn't still jump forward on PAUSE, or at least I've got the option - my projects have more markers than a bad gambler!
Agreed and I also hope brazilian prices reflects the actual rate because since the new shop started, the brazilian prices are shown so much higher than the old store...
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:00:14
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i.e. if 2-4 years later I'll decide to rent Platinum version for a month (for some work) it still will cost $19.99 to me (as X3 Producer owner today)?
If you only need it for a month, download the demo. It's free.If it's free you're missing out on an easy $10. And one month is never enough time for me to trial something.
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karlssonhaus
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:00:41
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scook
As your last purchased version ages, I would expect the cost of purchasing a new version of SONAR would increase, just like the price matrix shows today.
You mean that 2 years later it will cost to me like upgrading from Sonar Studio X3 today?
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:04:55
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Beepster
Actually that's always been their official policy (ie: once the new version came out the old version was technically no longer supported) but they always still helped out.
You're probably right, I always read that as related to the availability of fixes and updates so didn't connect it to tech support as such.
Well I don't know about "right" because I'm actually worried about this myself. I'm assuming if its up to the Baker's they'd continue helping folks out even if their versions are outdated but who knows what's coming down from corporate. Technically though as of today under the support policy I could not get phone/email tech support. Customer support would likely still work because that's more for account issues and stuff. Either way I don't see them being dinks about it if they have a choice and there is always the forum which has almost always provided me with quality answers to my dumb questions. ;-)
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:05:21
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How long will the "intro offer" be available for X3 Producer to Platinum?
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:07:41
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i.e. if 2-4 years later I'll decide to rent Platinum version for a month (for some work) it still will cost $19.99 to me (as X3 Producer owner today)?
If you only need it for a month, download the demo. It's free.
If it's free you're missing out on an easy $10. And one month is never enough time for me to trial something. Charging for the demo kind of defeats the purpose though and you can always download the demo again. It's seriously crippled (you can't save or export and if its going to be like past versions it will be bare bones) so I don't see them imposing a limit on how many times you can download the trial version.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:07:41
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scook
As your last purchased version ages, I would expect the cost of purchasing a new version of SONAR would increase, just like the price matrix shows today.
You mean that 2 years later it will cost to me like upgrading from Sonar Studio X3 today?
There are no published prices for 2017. There is a promotional price and the regular renewal price. Historically when users upgraded from older versions, they paid more that users upgrading from the most recent version.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:08:14
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I wonder also.. but I also wonder when the marketing department will start mucking around with prices..
70-80% of companies , pro audio ones do that I deal with..
I think I'll sit back and watch hows this plays out
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:12:44
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How long will the "intro offer" be available for X3 Producer to Platinum?
According to an earlier post from CW staff in this thread, through January and possibly February, actual end date of the promotion has not been specified.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:32:55
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scook
As your last purchased version ages, I would expect the cost of purchasing a new version of SONAR would increase, just like the price matrix shows today.
You mean that 2 years later it will cost to me like upgrading from Sonar Studio X3 today?
There are no published prices for 2017. There is a promotional price and the regular renewal price. Historically when users upgraded from older versions, they paid more that users upgrading from the most recent version.
But now there is no "version" as it mentioned above - it just constantly evolving piece of software...
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:34:22
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i.e. if 2-4 years later I'll decide to rent Platinum version for a month (for some work) it still will cost $19.99 to me (as X3 Producer owner today)?
If you only need it for a month, download the demo. It's free.
If it's free you're missing out on an easy $10. And one month is never enough time for me to trial something. Cakewalk doesn't charge for demos, that's just how they roll. Karlssonhaus said he only needed it for a month, so that's what I addressed. Perhaps Cakewalk could add a rental option in the future where you don't own the software, but that's another layer of complexity for something that, at least by survey and forum indications, doesn't appeal to most users.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:36:18
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scook
As your last purchased version ages, I would expect the cost of purchasing a new version of SONAR would increase, just like the price matrix shows today.
You mean that 2 years later it will cost to me like upgrading from Sonar Studio X3 today?
There are no published prices for 2017. There is a promotional price and the regular renewal price. Historically when users upgraded from older versions, they paid more that users upgrading from the most recent version.
But now there is no "version" as it mentioned above - it just constantly evolving piece of software...
True but in your example, you start with X3. I would imagine there will always be tiered pricing based on subscription status but it is pretty hard to say for sure because there is no price structure provided for 2017.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:38:30
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Anderton
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i.e. if 2-4 years later I'll decide to rent Platinum version for a month (for some work) it still will cost $19.99 to me (as X3 Producer owner today)?
If you only need it for a month, download the demo. It's free.
If it's free you're missing out on an easy $10. And one month is never enough time for me to trial something.
Cakewalk doesn't charge for demos, that's just how they roll. Karlssonhaus said he only needed it for a month, so that's what I addressed. Perhaps Cakewalk could add a rental option in the future where you don't own the software, but that's another layer of complexity for something that, at least by survey and forum indications, doesn't appeal to most users. Yeah, rental doesn't seem to appeal, but if you had the option to spread out the payments for 2 years vs. 1 and allow pausing the payments without losing previous payments when you stop them (I'm assuming users can't do this yet), I think you'd appeal to a wider range of opinions, including mine. Even as an owner of X3 and the upgrade payment to be $14.99/mo, that's $180 for 3 features I know I'd use. The one-time upgrade is the much better deal. I just think the per-month on these options is slightly high, especially for Platinum.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:38:53
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It is not paying for a upgrades, I have no issues with that....it is paying for support for them to stand behind the product they made, with licence to use on a said standard system capable of using it on...and I believe if it is so needed money for supporting their product, then what support is given for this new cost?...are we getting remote technical support , or just phone?...and how good is Gibson support?....You say they have money...but selling of a name brand, and adding in this cake walk, is just a means to make more?....charging consumers to stand behind a product they made....might as well buy the code, and troubleshoot it till it works....and be done!....but, that is just another avenue none seem to ponder to learn how to do.....Not being serious here in total truth...but some things I ponder when buying into the new....has left me most hairless in some places....I got Steinberg VST 3.7r....or something like that back in the hay days of PC, and followed from my Atari days of old midi setup flops and crashes..Doesn't work any more on newer systems, and was a flop for me on any one said it would work on...No refund there.....and I refused to pay for the upgrades and fowl mouth head tech, long distance charges anymore, and bent services asking me to upgrade to the next level of bugs of Steinberg's support groups highest top head dweeb....ever again, So it was still buggy in their new offerings until they went to version 5 and rewrote the Atari code to new c++ or what ever they used for pc stability, instead of patches.....I hope this does not lead others to similar outcomes.
And Avid support could not solve my problems either when buying into their bent ship of pay and pray, before I came to cakewalks side of the fence....and it works...so so...had some issues in the start up , but as I upgraded, it got better, and then it had a major bug, and then x3e solved some...good work...but needs refining.
or MS remote for a year, only to find the solution is to buy win 8.1, because there head support could not solve their issues I paid for.....win 7 and paid more for that....man always paying and praying....perhaps it is the prayer?
So...hope this is not a move towards loosing masses of hair continually.....but try we will, suffer we might, and then....pay another dime and try some more..., or make do with what is already hear, has some issues now...sort of working well enough, but I think I do not trust it as is anymore, in these work arounds I have to do to make it work right on my systems, for real serious work in money making ....and if it is not perfect this time, I will be bald and drunk in a stuper dupper rage!...not sure I will be able to dail any number then...wink...but let us see and then be sorry....right?.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:41:33
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scook
As your last purchased version ages, I would expect the cost of purchasing a new version of SONAR would increase, just like the price matrix shows today.
You mean that 2 years later it will cost to me like upgrading from Sonar Studio X3 today?
There are no published prices for 2017. There is a promotional price and the regular renewal price. Historically when users upgraded from older versions, they paid more that users upgrading from the most recent version.
But now there is no "version" as it mentioned above - it just constantly evolving piece of software...
True but in your example, you start with X3. I would imagine there will always be tiered pricing based on subscription status but it is pretty hard to say for sure because there is no price structure provided for 2017.
Well, so I have to upgrade today (and year after), because in 2017 (or 2020) my Producer X3 will cost nothing in terms of upgrade discount. Looks like the same model that we had before "subscription" deal.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:44:24
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Well, so I have to upgrade today (and year after), because in 2017 (or 2020) my Producer X3 will cost nothing in terms of upgrade discount.
I doubt even CW has figured out what X3 will be worth (in upgrade terms) two years from now. Too much can happen in that period of time.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:46:05
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Well, so I have to upgrade today (and year after), because in 2017 (or 2020) my Producer X3 will cost nothing in terms of upgrade discount. Looks like the same model that we had before "subscription" deal.
Historically, Cakewalk have always provided a discount to registered users of their products. I believe it is shown in the current subscription prices.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:46:39
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/01/14 16:04:48
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Cakewalk doesn't charge for demos, that's just how they roll. Karlssonhaus said he only needed it for a month, so that's what I addressed.
Perhaps Cakewalk could add a rental option in the future where you don't own the software, but that's another layer of complexity for something that, at least by survey and forum indications, doesn't appeal to most users.
Something I was thinking about last night was an hourly rental option. Now stick with me here because its not what you think... This new monthly model is cool enough for those who will use Sonar regularly for that whole month but I'm kind of all over the place with my various endeavours and am not sitting in front of the DAW as frequently as I would like. How it would work is you buy a subscription (that is locked to one computer) for say 24 hours for a set price (not sure what price would be fair but let's say $30 for 24 hours). Then every time you open the program a countdown begins. You do your work, save/export it and close the program thus stopping the countdown. It's a full functioning version for that whole time. Once the clock on the "rental" runs out it reverts back to the demo. Personally as a Pay As You Go style of subscription that would make a HECK of a lot more sense for those of us who aren't always in front of their DAWs than a monthly deal. Obviously Cake would have to figure out a reasonable rate that won't undercut the monthly subscriptions but it might coax those who don't see a monthly subscription as useful because they are too busy to take advantage of it. Just a thought... perhaps dumb... but I like it.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:48:36
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And that's right, that after a year of payments, you own the current version, correct? I think I still have some studying to do there. It's not entirely clear to me yet.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:52:16
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At first glance I am so F'ing confused .. Is this a new version what is it? do I have to spend $50 a month to continue to use Sonar.. Theres like 10 versions now .. VERY CONFUSING !!!!! Is it called X4 ..
Im so Lost right now , I dont even wanna deal with this nonsense ..
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:52:37
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And that's right, that after a year of payments, you own the current version, correct? I think I still have some studying to do there. It's not entirely clear to me yet.
Yes, on the monthly plan after 12 consecutive payments, you own a license to the current version.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:53:02
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And that's right, that after a year of payments, you own the current version, correct? I think I still have some studying to do there. It's not entirely clear to me yet.
Yes... pay the monthly fee for a consecutive 12 months and you get to keep it all, fully licensed, just like buying a full version. If you cancel the subscription AFTER the 12 months you still own everything from that 12 months. If you cancel it BEFORE the 12 months you lose it all and have to start over again. It is more expensive in the long run that way than paying up from though but it's kind of like a lease to own situation.
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2015/01/14 14:54:18
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scook
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:58:21
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djjhart@aol.com
At first glance I am so F'ing confused .. Is this a new version what is it? do I have to spend $50 a month to continue to use Sonar.. Theres like 10 versions now .. VERY CONFUSING !!!!! Is it called X4 ..
Im so Lost right now , I dont even wanna deal with this nonsense ..
There are three versions just like the previous X series. The versions are renamed Artist, Professional and Platinum. Upgrading from Producer to Platinum will have a promo price of $149 (one time payment) or $14.99/mo for 12 months. Once the promo is over (end date has not been set but it has been suggested some time in February), the upgrade price will be $199 (one time payment) or $19.99/mo for 12 months.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:58:22
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I will not be upgrading Sonar any longer - that is my intention at this point based on this subscription model.
I will not pay a company for bug fixes and empty speculative promises that may or may not be resolved at a later time.
this subscription model is great for Cakewalk funding and stability as a profitable company - but not so for me as a user.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 14:59:51
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Well, so I have to upgrade today (and year after), because in 2017 (or 2020) my Producer X3 will cost nothing in terms of upgrade discount. Looks like the same model that we had before "subscription" deal.
Historically, Cakewalk have always provided a discount to registered users of their products. I believe it is shown in the current subscription prices.
As I see, probably, payment model will be: if your last payment was year ago (upfront) - cheapest price ($19.99/m) if your last payment was year ago (unfinished 12 months) - price like if you just "any other SONAR" owner ($39.99/m) hmm... I have to think about all that stuff...
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/14 15:00:19
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slartabartfast
For people who paid a lot less than you to get into a version late, they got a lot less time to use the version than you did, and were able to stay in the Cakewalk upgrade loop for an affordable price. That option is gone, and so I expect are many of those customers.
I can say with some certainty that I am among those customers. I've been able to hang on the my Producer status because of the end of version sale and had planned on continuing with that strategy. It looks like X3 has become a "learn to live with it the way it is" program for me, like most of my other programs (eg Ms Office). I can probably live with that. I used Kinetic 1 for ten years and X3 is quite a bit more than that. However, if there are any "jump back on the bandwagon" sales in the future, I will certainly be interested. Or is this the death of sales ?
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