tomixornot
This is a long thread and I only managed to read some, so I hope I'm not asking something that's already answered.
 
I think I like the new model, in a way that I can upgrade (paying full year upgrade price) every 1.5 years, or once every 2 or 3 years, or it may be sooner if there is a great feature that I wanted. Am I right thinking this way ?
 
Another question is, can I expect bugs (not new feature request) that exists within the year that I purchased is fixed ?

Beepster
How long will we have to purchase the full 12 month subscriptions before we lose our X3 Producer upgrade status and then what kind of scheme do you have for after that.

Paul P

Beepster
How long will we have to purchase the full 12 month subscriptions before we lose our X3 Producer upgrade status and then what kind of scheme do you have for after that.

I think the Versions page is pretty clear on that, together with what I posted above :
 
   "I own an older version of SONAR Producer :  $49 or $4.99/m  |  $99 or $9.99/m  |  $199 or $19.99/m"
 
So wait a year or two and pay 200$ for Platinum.  Or less if there's a sale.
 
 

Karyn
 
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 
 

ChazEd

Karyn
 
If you have a break in your membership and wish to re-start it, you should expect to pay more (at least initially) for your renewal to cover the cost of all the updates you will get that were published while you were not a member.  
 
 

 
Why should I pay for something I didn´t use?

Karyn
I don't believe they'll be increasing the cost if you drop a single or a few months every now and then,  I'm talking about people taking long breaks.
 
If the renewal fee is not increased (after a long break) then you could halve your overall cost simply by doing an annual renewal every other year and skipping the one in-between.  You still get to keep the software (you did a full year renewal) and when you renew 24 months later you get the very latest version again (as if you'd been paying all along) and you get to keep it. This cuts your renewal fee in half.
 
If that is the case, all those who pay every year are going to be paying for those who pay every two years...
 

Karyn

ChazEd

Karyn
 
If you have a break in your membership and wish to re-start it, you should expect to pay more (at least initially) for your renewal to cover the cost of all the updates you will get that were published while you were not a member.  
 
 

 
Why should I pay for something I didn´t use?

Because when you start paying again you still get it.  So you could cut the cost in half by doing an annual payment every 2 years and still be up to date for 1 of each 2 years.
 
If everyone does that Cakewalk's revenue would be halved.
 
Edit:  There has to be a cutoff point where a "long" break in membership results in an increased renewal fee for the first renewal period.  Just as skipping a version update in the past resulted in a higher upgrade cost.

Anderton

yevster

Anderton

yevster
And speaking of competition, with Cubase 8 pro selling in GuitarCenter and Musician's Friend for $400 with an included MIDI controller, perhaps the $499 intro price tag is counterproductive.

Well...not quite. They're selling off old stock of Cubase 7.5 for $399, with an upgrade to 8 when it comes out in February. But if someone buys SONAR in February for $499, they not only get the software that's current in February, they get updates and content for the next year culminating in the next "version" of SONAR. A more comparable analogy would be if you could buy Cubase 8 in February, and when you purchased it, get an update to Cubase 9 locked in at the same time for an extra $99, with the Cubase 9 features being downloadable as soon as they're ready.

Nope. Cubase 8 Pro has been out for a month and has already been updated to 8.05.

I know it's been out for a month; I approved their implementation of my Quadrafuzz design and received an advance copy. But what you said was "with Cubase 8 pro selling in GuitarCenter and Musician's Friend for $400" which at least according to the Guitar Center and MF sites is not true. If you enter Cubase 8 as a keyword in either site, you will not get a return. If you check for Cubase on MF, this is what you'll find, which if you click on the product says you'll get an update when it becomes available from them on February 11. The GC ad doesn't mention the update.
 
If you can produce a link to anything from MF or GC that shows they're selling Cubase 8 NOW for $400 I'll stand corrected, but I found nothing to corroborate what you said. If you want to buy Cubase 8 Pro now, the price I'm seeing is $550 from Amazon and Sweetwater. I think you may be confusing selling 7.5 for $399 with selling 8 for $400.
 
 

ChazEd

Karyn

ChazEd

Karyn
 
If you have a break in your membership and wish to re-start it, you should expect to pay more (at least initially) for your renewal to cover the cost of all the updates you will get that were published while you were not a member.  
 
 

 
Why should I pay for something I didn´t use?

Because when you start paying again you still get it.  So you could cut the cost in half by doing an annual payment every 2 years and still be up to date for 1 of each 2 years.
 
If everyone does that Cakewalk's revenue would be halved.
 
Edit:  There has to be a cutoff point where a "long" break in membership results in an increased renewal fee for the first renewal period.  Just as skipping a version update in the past resulted in a higher upgrade cost.

I understand that if I renewal my membership, I´ll get everything, but the point is I didn´t benefit for a entire year, so it´s a bit unfair to charge full (example: $200 + $200 = $400) for something that you didn´t used.
 
There's must be something in the middle ground for people who, for reasons unknown, can´t keep up the membership.