MGC59
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 13:45:01
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SuperG I don't know about software guys....most music software got bumped up to 64-bit pretty quickly. But why are all their other products like Amplitube and Tracks all 64-bit? Why lie?
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MGC59
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 13:46:43
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Super G
I sprinkled some Hi Karate and Jade East on the forum. The troll smell should subside soon.
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SuperG
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 13:55:47
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MGC59
SuperG
I don't know about software guys....most music software got bumped up to 64-bit pretty quickly.
The why are all their other products like Amplitube and Tracks all 64-bit?
Why lie?
What lie? I posted a link showing an IK employee making noise about release dates way back in 2013. The only thing to argue about that post is whether the statement made was meretricious, stupid, or both. The only reason a company doesn't produce a 64bit VSTI is because they either don't have the programmers (too cheap to hire), or because they haven't directed the ones that they have to do so. That's a management issue - clear and simple.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:09:14
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I think the "low post count" guys have totally missed the point.
ST 2 was released in 2004. ST 2.5 was released in 2007....the LAST tick update,
2.5.4 was in April of 2010 That is now 4 years ago. My point is, after 2.5 came out,
IK started the ST 3 coming soon scenario...it was VAPOR WARE. They showed pics of
them recording samples (which, incidently RESURFACED last year)...never came...
then they touted COMING SOON...then it really got good after 2.5.4. Then a few years ago...
the battle cry went out again...
ST 3 coming soon!.....THEN last year, early, we were told it would be out SOON.
Late last year we were told BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, most likely NOVEMBER,
then we were told, before Dec 31st....or free plugins...which got dropped to free plugins
for Guitarpima (and I'm GLAD he got them).
This is an ONGOING and DELIBERATE misrepresentation....I don't care HOW you slice it
boys...
11 years for a version 2 to version 3 product cycle is ridiculous...sorry...just is...
I firmly believe that if Pro Tools had remained 32 bit, they'd never do anything
with this program, because it wasn't until Pro Tools went 64 bit, that they decided
to "do the do" That's just my thought, because all the other DAW's have been 64
bit for quite a while.
IK decided to go after the iDollar....and sell iCraps...that's great....but they continued
to neglect this product completely.....for YEARS.....not a year, or a month, but REALLY
for 11 years. The point upgrades were just to keep the program functional...and those
were few and far between.
I don't know about what YOU think you buy when you buy software...it's NOT a product that
you get and it's done. It's a LICENSE to use it. And that implies that, when you can't USE IT
anymore, then the license is DEAD, because you can't USE IT. They have EVERY OBLIGATION
to keep the Program USABLE to the Licensee....PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! THAT is what software
companies DO. THAT is why EVERY COMPANY OUT THERE supplies patches and updates....
EPIC FAIL...end of story...bye bye...
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Mesh
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:19:28
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SuperG
The only thing to argue about that post is whether the statement made was meretricious, stupid, or both.
I had to look up up meretricious as I didn't know what it meant.........hope ST3 is not #2!!  mer·e·tri·cious merəˈtriSHəs/ adjectiveadjective: meretricious1. apparently attractive but having in reality no value or integrity. "meretricious souvenirs for the tourist trade" synonyms: worthless, valueless, cheap, tawdry, trashy, Brummagem, tasteless, kitsch, kitschy; More false, artificial, fake, imitation; informaltacky, chintzy"the meretricious glitter of the whole charade" 2. archaic of, relating to, or characteristic of a prostitute.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:22:32
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:29:34
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Trolls? lol. No I have a low post count because I spend my time making music and living life. I really cant imagine life posting on forums all day. Get some sun fellas. :)
I still don't get what he big deal is if they didn't upgrade their software in five years. Or even ten. So what? The product they sold you works. I used it the other day on my widows 8.1 laptop. It still works and sounds fine. They missed their deadline? So what? That's IK's loss. They lost costumers that moved on.
It wont take long to think of any company that hasn't done the same or worse. Remember p5? I was a p5 user. And Cakewalk even promised an update and never delivered. I moved on, but if I wanted to, I could still use p5. I got what I bought.
I do agree that companies should be held accountable for their promises. (Like cakewalk promising a p5 update lol). And how do you hold them accountable? There really isn't much a customer can do except not buy anymore from them. And tell others.
But even so, the product I bought works. Anyone that has bought software for enough time knows...you never buy the on first release (public beta) and you buy the product for what it does right now.
All this bullying however, is just silly. Missing a deadline? Big deal. How does that hurt anyone but Ik? The only thing I really don't like is the ik spam and their reps. Those two reps are annoying.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:49:15
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/17 17:10:07
Low post count dudes are better looking than high post count dudes.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:49:42
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mandrake
Trolls? lol. No I have a low post count because I spend my time making music and living life. I really cant imagine life posting on forums all day. Get some sun fellas. :)
I still don't get what he big deal is if they didn't upgrade their software in five years. Or even ten. So what? The product they sold you works. I used it the other day on my widows 8.1 laptop. It still works and sounds fine. They missed their deadline? So what? That's IK's loss. They lost costumers that moved on.
It wont take long to think of any company that hasn't done the same or worse. Remember p5? I was a p5 user. And Cakewalk even promised an update and never delivered. I moved on, but if I wanted to, I could still use p5. I got what I bought.
I do agree that companies should be held accountable for their promises. (Like cakewalk promising a p5 update lol). And how do you hold them accountable? There really isn't much a customer can do except not buy anymore from them. And tell others.
But even so, the product I bought works. Anyone that has bought software for enough time knows...you never buy the on first release (public beta) and you buy the product for what it does right now.
All this bullying however, is just silly. Missing a deadline? Big deal. How does that hurt anyone but Ik? The only thing I really don't like is the ik spam and their reps. Those two reps are annoying.
IK
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:55:51
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/17 17:10:27
mandrake
Trolls? lol. No I have a low post count because I spend my time making music and living life. I really cant imagine life posting on forums all day. Get some sun fellas. :)
i was thinking the same thing.  A high post count is not necessarily something to boast about.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 14:57:19
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mandrake
Trolls? lol. No I have a low post count because I spend my time making music and living life. I really cant imagine life posting on forums all day. Get some sun fellas. :)
i was thinking the same thing.
A high post count is not necessarily something to boast about.
IKR
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:07:32
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tom1
Low post count dudes are better looking than high post count dudes.
lol. And they have bigger penisis (peni?). IK? does that mean I work for them? lol. They should hire me. Other then spending all day on forums, I would do a much better job than the two reps they got now. Where do I apply? Getting paid to waste time posting on forums makes a lot more sense. :) BTW,, I really don't care either way. My life is unaffected by all this. As is all of yours, really. I just had some time and was reading through all of this and though it was silly and I felt I need to comment for some balance. But im not looking for wars (lol) or to offend. Good luck with your crusade. Whatever the point of it all is (to shame IK? To punish them for not updating something that didn't need to be for five years? for missing a deadline? I don't get it. whatever). I will sign the petition to get rid of their reps though (hey maybe there will be a job opening for me lol). Those two conduct themselves in a very unprofessional manner and their spam is crossing the line of good taste.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:21:15
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Monkey23
mandrake
Trolls? lol. No I have a low post count because I spend my time making music and living life. I really cant imagine life posting on forums all day. Get some sun fellas. :)
i was thinking the same thing.
A high post count is not necessarily something to boast about.
It usually means you don't have a life.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:23:08
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:26:57
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Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:30:29
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MGC59
Vintagevibe....try to keep up here....you clearly haven't followed the many other reasons IK has created all the ire directed at them. Go back and read some of this history before you start throwing the "grownup" card around. ST hasn't been updated in YEARS.....not just 2013. I'm not going to repeat myself for your benefit.
For the record I LOVE IK products. I own a majority of them. I use them on EVERY project I do. Does that sound like someone who "hates" them?
You missed my point completely.
I've followed this thread since it was created. I know the history if ST as well as anyone. Most of the posters here, including yourself, have created a little cult of whining about ST. I will repeat myself for your benefit. Grow up and get a grip. You're obviously hobbyists who have no professional pressures in the music business and have nothing better to do such as make music. The funny part is that your cult thinks about ST more than any one else and will apparently be the first to purchase it. So for your benefit I'll repeat.. grow up and get a grip and perhaps even a life.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:40:19
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Grem
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:40:52
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I just don't get the part of posters complaining about other posters needing to get a life - I don't think it's out of generosity, and why are *they* wasting their lives here..then?
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:44:09
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vintagevibe
I've followed this thread since it was created. I know the history if ST as well as anyone. Most of the posters here, including yourself, have created a little cult of whining about ST. I will repeat myself for your benefit. Grow up and get a grip. You're obviously hobbyists who have no professional pressures in the music business and have nothing better to do such as make music. The funny part is that your cult thinks about ST more than any one else and will apparently be the first to purchase it. So for your benefit I'll repeat.. grow up and get a grip and perhaps even a life.
Couldn't have said it better. Larry,good luck my CW brother. No hard feelings on my side. but your getting ludicrous again and I'm outta here. Peace and love!
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SuperG
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:49:57
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Oh well, I guess he wanted to get a life...
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 15:58:40
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Wow, what a half time show, that was some serious good monkey soft shoe, thanks Mesh
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MGC59
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:02:57
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Vintagevibe "You're obviously hobbyists who have no professional pressures in the music business and have nothing better to do such as make music." Please feel free to check out my "hobby"... https://soundcloud.com/mark-casta/kyrie-cover and for the record IK products were used on all my tracks.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:10:14
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No need to go the personal route folks.... I love a good rousing debate but... 
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MGC59
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:36:43
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Sorry Frankie please don't throw me down the well....
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:39:25
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Frankie not mad... 
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:45:19
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Guys,
What are we doing?
We're losing the music and the reason we are here for if this tirade doesn't burn out soon.
This stuff belongs on Gearslutz or the Reaper lounge.
If this much energy could be sublimated into constructive, progressive analytics, we'd have killer machines with all the software one could want yesterday.
Got to get back on track and patch this cyber masacre? Too much emnity amongst warriors who should be coming together as allies.
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:56:13
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It's a bunch of IK reps boys...
No one with half a brain would post such absurdities...coming out of the woodwork
from nowhere with no post count....just to make a show here...
That's all it is...nothing more...nothing less....
I'm not going away...and I'm not letting it go...
Too many people I represent here...sorry...
The REAL children are the ones trying to justify IK's lack of support...and misleading
and misrepresentative comments...
They're trying to hijack MY thread...
Your objections have been duly noted and summarily rejected...
Thank You!
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:56:33
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We're losing the music and the reason we are here for if this tirade doesn't burn out soon. Keep it in perspective - for some of us, the confrontational is a muse...
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 16:59:55
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JohnKen
I'm working on a project as we fling dung at one another. It's a primal instinct I guess....a form of multitasking one might say......
Hey Frankie...want some fire?!
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Re: SampleTank 3 Release
2014/02/14 17:00:55
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MGC59
Vintagevibe
"You're obviously hobbyists who have no professional pressures in the music business and have nothing better to do such as make music."
Please feel free to check out my "hobby"... https://soundcloud.com/mark-casta/kyrie-cover and for the record IK products were used on all my tracks.
Mark, your stuff sounds really good. You've got a very nice voice. You're still way off base on this subject IMO.
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