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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/13 22:07:37 (permalink)
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/13 22:23:19 (permalink)
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I wonder who will kill the thread. Some people believe they are thread-killers. They hate to post on a thread because no one ever responds to them. Their insecurities create a fear of posting. They sense no one likes them and don't wish to prove it by being the last and only unanswered post in the thread. Is that person you? Only one way to find out.

          "In to the flood again".............I wonder?

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/13 22:39:24 (permalink)
it's the fred that never ends my friends...
come inside...
come inside...

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/13 22:49:29 (permalink)
The request of the OP was 20,000 views and 2,000 posts.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 00:15:51 (permalink)
This thread has taken over my life. It's just gone 4 am here and I've had to get up to see where it's going now.... same place it's always been going apparently. Nowhere.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 02:30:16 (permalink)
The Superstars have gone elsewhere.

I still wanna know,wether PCIe cards in the realm of under $500 for Sandy Bridge exist[or will ever exist] besides 8 year old EMU 1212/1616/[they come with Sonar 6!!!] and of course my question is "Right on Topic",as I need to retain the "SOUND QUALITY OF SONAR"!!!
RME used to, or do make the PCI only HDSP[$499],only to be replaced by the HDSPe at nearly TWICE the price!

Could it be worth changing to this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153216&Tpk=NAF92-Q67 apparently it has NATIVE PCI!! something that is completely gone with ANY post z68 1155 boards,["I just don't wanna find the bridge"]


I won't be able to overclock with THIS board, or will I?


It is an endless quest this Audio Interface thing,and it's driving me nuts more than being an un-included noob recluse ex [very] whatever.

So again ESI? 

Any others?


I know I will be ignored [sigh] 

Oh yeah

Really just hoping for something WAY better than my UA25-EX[absolute minimum 12.6ms RTLatency!!]
So many modern USB interfaces look NO BETTER even though they ARE USB 2.0[UA is USB 1.1!!!]

I got burn't on 3 interfaces so far,trying not to make it 4 or 5 or 6 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

So being the un-official Thread Killer on GS,here we go!


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I could teach him Eruption.


What was I on about?......Oh yeah :SOUND QUALITY OF SONAR X1





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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 02:42:05 (permalink)
PCI is dead.  Long live PCIe

(and this thread)

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 04:08:11 (permalink)
No......no.... PCI is far superior, I can hear the difference. I've just tried hammering my PCI firewire card into a PCIe slot and my system doesn't boot any more.

Is it possible that it's X1's fault? I'll try switching it on blindfolded with two blindfolds later, that will let me know for sure, apparently.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 04:21:08 (permalink)
ISA cards had the edge and were far more 'musical sounding' than todays cards.

They were dumped because of rising manufacturing costs despite their clear superiority for audio work.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:03:00 (permalink)
Please do not begin filling this thread with misinformation.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:06:37 (permalink)

Agreed. I personally use ISA cards impulses on almost everything I do.

Except vocals - I have an impulse of Sonar's stereo bus which works terrific - it makes anyone sound just like old Smokey Robinson...

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:12:33 (permalink)
BOYEAH! I got post #700!

So, I heard about this guy who went thru an intersection going
2 miles an hour over the speed limit and he saw the flash
of the traffic camera as it took his photo.

He was PO'ed and went around the block and came thru the intersection
at exactly the speed limit and the traffic camera flashed again.

He was really peeved this time and went around the block and came thru the intersection at exactly 5 miles an hour below the speed limit and the traffic camera took his picture a third time.

He was fuming when he got home.  A week later he receives three tickets in the mail for not wearing a seatbelt.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:28:04 (permalink)
All PCs should have seatbelt recognition technology as standard, in my opinion. Macs shouldn't. I like the idea of their users heads going through the monitor.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:50:33 (permalink)
MacPro's sound much more betterer than those other things....

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 05:55:10 (permalink)
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MacPro's sound much more betterer than those other things....
Funny you should say that.  I was hitting one with my drumstick today and it did indeed sound better than my PC.  More of a "twang" compared to the PC's "thwak"



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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 06:04:48 (permalink)
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MacPro's sound much more betterer than those other things....
Funny you should say that.  I was hitting one with my drumstick today and it did indeed sound better than my PC.  More of a "twang" compared to the PC's "thwak"
Countless MoTown records were made that way.
 
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 06:07:49 (permalink)
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MacPro's sound much more betterer than those other things....
Funny you should say that.  I was hitting one with my drumstick today and it did indeed sound better than my PC.  More of a "twang" compared to the PC's "thwak"
Countless MoTown records were made that way.
 
Yeah, but back then, Mac was the guy playing the bass.  And it was a lot harder to get that MoTown sound without Sonar.  They had to put a hammer through the tweeters to get that Sonar sound.


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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 06:59:18 (permalink)
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MacPro's sound much more betterer than those other things....
Funny you should say that.  I was hitting one with my drumstick today and it did indeed sound better than my PC.  More of a "twang" compared to the PC's "thwak"
Countless MoTown records were made that way.

Yeah, but back then, Mac was the guy playing the bass.  And it was a lot harder to get that MoTown sound without Sonar.  They had to put a hammer through the tweeters to get that Sonar sound.



The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:17:28 (permalink)
My E-MU 1616m uses a PCI card w/dsp effects built-in...
It sounds great...but I'm sure it would sound a whole lot better if it had an interleave button on it
 
E-MU does have a PCIe card that replaces the PCI....same dock for ins/outs.  It's a great interface in you're looking for one.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:33:25 (permalink)
Little known fact but in Æsop's fable of the tortoise and the hare my round trip latency came in a distant third.

Æsop was a lazy man. He didn't even separate the A from the E because it saved writing one extra vertical line.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:36:44 (permalink)
What exactly are the rules to playing Scrabble?  

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:40:55 (permalink)
It's 11 v 11 and one bowls and the other bats.

Just checked and that's actually cricket but it sounds like scrabble through my DAW.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:46:06 (permalink)
I wouldn't play Scrabble with Sonar. Cubase is better for that. Sonar is more suited to Monopoly. ProTools I'd use for Hungry Hippos.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 09:51:04 (permalink)
Did you get that scrabble information from Gearslutz or was that your own work? They don't know a thing about scrabble over there. I've used Kerplunk on Reaper and Buckaroo on Studio One 2 and never had a crash. Maybe 2 but that's because I looked at it the wrong way. User error.
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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:01:16 (permalink)
WOW fianlly 98.7 % of population that using computers finally agreed on that WINDOWS 7 X64bit  and x64bit programs work and are much faster and better then XP x32 OS and 32bit programs.
Lots of resistance took over 7 years for majority average people to get it...that x64bit ROCK! 



Lets see how many years it will take before majority will get this one...It is doesn't sound the same..64 bit double precision or 128 bit precision is better then 24bit or 32bit floating calculation.
 
 
 
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http://www.randelshofer.ch/fhw/gri/doubleapplet.html
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/X1-Producer/feature.aspx/SONAR-Core-Technology-and-64-bit-Double-Precision-Engine
 
 
SONAR Core Technology and 64 bit Double Precision Engine
There’s a reason SONAR just sounds better. SONAR's industry-first, end-to-end, 64-bit double precision floating point mix engine allows you to mix with sonic clarity using a suite of versatile effects, powerful mixing tools, and endless routing possibilities. The 64-bit audio mix engine means you are mixing with the best audio quality in the industry today. The 64-bit engine is featured in SONAR X1 Studio and Producer only.




Best of all, you can take advantage of this audio engine on both 32-bit and 64-bit PCs giving you unmatched audio quality with spacious amounts of headroom and footroom through extended dynamic range. SONAR X1 also features native support for 64-bit floating point audio files, allowing you to import, stream, and render tracks and mixes at the highest quality available in the industry.

The 64-bit Double Precision Engine provides greater resolution, meaning more accurate audio reproduction and more headroom. You'll especially notice the benefits of the 64-bit Double Precision Engine when working in large projects containing many audio tracks and plugs-ins. Your chances of clipping will be significantly reduced.

The 64-bit signal path includes plug-ins and buses. SONAR sends and receives 64-bit data to and from all plug-ins that accept 64-bit data. Combine this 64-bit data chain with SONAR’s line of Linear Phase accurate audio effects and you have true a mastering environment. If a plug-in requires 32-bit data, SONAR will automatically handle the conversation

 
 
 
 


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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:02:19 (permalink)
What?

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:07:23 (permalink)
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What?
 
Just answer the OP question
Check OP question what this thread is all about...


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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:10:20 (permalink)
OK. While I'm doing that, and noting that the OP's question is actually to do with a problem he was having with amplitube, you read the rest of the thread, and note that it pretty much completely debunks what you've posted above.

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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:18:16 (permalink)
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 he was having with amplitube, you read the rest of the thread, and note that it pretty much completely debunks what you've posted above.

Ahh No I did not.. Great that it work out for him thanks for the heads up!!  
I work acuationally too so I haven't read all the 20000 posts yet 
 
About soundquality and double precision..No the status is still the same sounds better...


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Re:Sound Quality of Sonar X1 2012/03/14 10:24:29 (permalink)
Really. You have test data for this? Next person who says "I can hear it" gets shot. Twice. In the face.

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