jerrydf
Hi Andy,  Over the weekend I've been playing with Cubase AI8 (free from my Steinberg UR22 interface).  It has the basic audio and midi (PRV) editing. I'm really keen on it now (sorry folks ...) and becoming much more familiar with its foibles. I have no doubt I'll be able to operate it with the same workflow efficiency I had with Sonar. If I had one suggestion to make to Cubase guys - can you give me the same right-click tool access I had on Sonar.  Cubase is almost identical but not quite as ergonomic. It could also use the "star" tool Sonar has in that context. This is a very minor issue. Most other procedures are becoming second nature. 
Cheers
Jerry
 

Thanks for that comment, Jerry, I'd completely forgotten that I have the AI option with my recently purchased Steinberg UR242 interface !   Just downloading now to give it a trial; according to the Download Assistant it's for Cubase AI 9.5 as well. 
 
Bob

Well, the hangout video has made me even more certain that Cubase is the right way to go.

They need to get the demo up. I would be happy with the v9 demo,
but I get why they want it to be the "latest greatest" and
understand why they wait for the first maintenance release.
The only thing I don't understand is the constant ****ing about the price...
 
T

I'm leaning towards SO Pro but with the seemingly good points being made about Cubase I'm on the fence. If we (or I) knew what the final Cubase cross grade pricing was it may help. The Presonus sales VP seemed pretty helpful.

Yeah, very informative, answered most of my questions in the affirmative. One thing kind of disappointing (although I may have misunderstood, he went through it kind of fast), it doesn't look like the piano roll editor has any place to actually manage what tracks are being displayed/edited. He said it displays whatever is selected in the track view, which would mean you have to switch views to select different tracks to edit? Yeesh, I hope I missed something. The PRV improvements like filter sets are pretty recent in Sonar but really useful.

The issue here is whether I can actually afford the crossgrade offer while it's active. I've noted I'm not really anxious to leave Sonar, but if I'm going to learn something new, I may as well get started. I just can't break my budget to do it. We'll see what happens, I guess.

DeeringAmps
The crossgrade is $255 at Sweetwater, that does not include the dongle.
I picked up a dongle locally for $32 from Amazon, I'm a prime member, same day delivery was free.
Maybe, and this is just a maybe, Steinberg will not offer a crossgrade box with dongle; I don't know.
 
T

I'm in the UK so I get mine direct from Steinberg in Germany and my only choice is a boxed version with or without a dongle, but from what I can make out there is local distribution from Yamaha worldwide. The Sweetwater deal is download only without dongle and I think if you get it direct from a Yammi authorized dealer you can get a boxed version with or without dongle.

I did see that Europe and the UK were getting boxed product from a "local" distributor.
DarinBad is here in the states, and JoeA had a question as to pricing.
A assume that the European pricing works out to about $290 when converted to USD?
 
T
 

$290, including the dongle and VAT (about 10%; right?) sounds like a "deal" to me.
I did see that the box was coming from the continent, that's why I quoted "local".
 
T

Also thinking of Studio One 3 Pro crossgrade for $125 at JRR (with proof of Sonar ownership).
Willing to look at Cubase (including dongle) if their price is similar.

I setup an account this morning.
Response was slow.
Still waiting for the demo download link, but Greg did say that the demo would not
be ready until (hopefully) tomorrow.
 
T

Thank you for your response, Greg. Actually, I'm in Argentina. So you say that if I go to the local distributor and tell them "hey, Steinberg's website says that the competitive crossgrade is 50% off worldwide, so you must half the price of whatever the price is", they will cut the price? I doubt they will do that...

khapahk1956

riojazz
There does not appear to be info in the 1064 page manual specifically about the differences.  There is a section about the Artist version but no description of what is missing that you would get in the Pro version.

There is a specific manual for notation called Score Layout and Printing in Pro 9.5 on the Pro 9.5  Manuals page.  This seems to cover all aspects of the notation function and runs to over 200 pages !  Might this have  the information you're looking for ?
 
Bob

Thanks, I read that, too.  Does not give any screen shots of actual notation.

riojazz

khapahk1956

riojazz
There does not appear to be info in the 1064 page manual specifically about the differences.  There is a section about the Artist version but no description of what is missing that you would get in the Pro version.

There is a specific manual for notation called Score Layout and Printing in Pro 9.5 on the Pro 9.5  Manuals page.  This seems to cover all aspects of the notation function and runs to over 200 pages !  Might this have  the information you're looking for ?
 
Bob

Thanks, I read that, too.  Does not give any screen shots of actual notation.

Trust me, I saw screenshots of notation, which was extremely detailed, and showing several measures in the view. Also, I'm on their forum, because I have a UR-22 interface and needed some help. I asked about this, and they answered all my doubts as to the robust nature of the score editor in Pro. But the only way to really know is to download the demo. Assuming you can find it. And have a dongle. I do, I needed it for my Vienna instruments. But I can't find the dam demo.

My Sweetwater order has gone through. Just awaiting an email with serial number so I can download.

I did receive account affirmation last night. Product registered and downloaded. It will be good to learn things in a new program from a slightly different angle. When I get time I will need to look into the BLACKLIST classifications. Actually feels great to have made a jump. I have loved Cakewalk and its program for many years. It is time to go and eventually use Sonar as a backup for now .

Perhaps we could smudge the Cakewalk severs once the issue of off line perpetual activation is clearly defined.