Rocsee70

bapu
your current membership (sheesh.... how many times must it be said, CW does have NOT a subscription plan)

Just out of curiosity. How do you see a difference between a membership and a subscription ? I know how SPlat works, and just thinks you can call it either.
 
Also out of curiosity and totally off-topic: what is this 'bakers' reference that I see popping up now and again ?

In the world of magazines and newspapers, when you cancel you subscription you get to keep the physical copies you already have but get no more.
In the world of software, when you cancel your subscription the software stops working.
In the world of Cakewalk, if you cancel your membership you stop getting updates but as long as you've made 12 consecutive part payments, you own the software and it will always work.
 
Cakewalk programmers = Bakers...   Cake -> Baker....

Morvejones

Rocsee70

Morvejones
One thing i am confused about is how is my price £176.14? ($199 = £136 + 20% vat = £163.20) minus 5 months ive paid already £11.89 x5 = £59.45 , (£163.20 - £59.45 = £103.75) Shouldn't £103.75 be the price? 

What makes you think you should be able to deduct the 5 months you already paid ?! There has not been a single mention about being able to do that. Wouldn't make that much sense either since almost everyone will already have paid until some date in the future and so you expect everyone would still get some discount on an already discounted price.
Pricing is really very simple:
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum + you have renewed for 1 year Platinum : your lifetime offer is $99 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum, but no renewal yet : your lifetime offer is $199 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).

Because if you read the email the price is $199 for lifetime updates minus what you have already paid , thats why people get it for $99 right? As they have already renewed for the year.i have paid for 1 year of platinum plus I renewed paying monthly so instead of paying up front i have made 5 months payments so shouldnt i have them deducted? understand? 

If I understand correctly, you started paying month-to-month in Jan, right? So you paid for time that has already passed, with at the most 1 month in advance. On the other hand, if you paid for a year's worth of membership earlier this year, you paid for quite some time into the future. For example if you paid for a year's worth of membership in Jan, you still have more than 6 months left.
 
So I think that is the difference.

Rocsee70
 
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum + you have renewed for 1 year Platinum : your lifetime offer is $99 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).
 

I paid for one year of platinum and renewed for another year in February this year. I've not received the $99 offer, but I have received the email. So I don't think it's that cut and dry.

Kamikaze
I paid for one year of platinum and renewed for another year in February this year. I've not received the $99 offer, but I have received the email. So I don't think it's that cut and dry.

From what I have seen the reps post here, you should definitely be entitled for the $99 price. So I would drop them a mail or PM.

AllanH

WallyG

AllanH
...That's the best Amiga news in 16 years!
I miss my Amiga!
EDIT: I miss my Amigas! I had quite a few over the years.

I can't tell you how many hours I spent in front of an Amiga(s)...Lots! Bars & Pipes, Deluxe Music Construction Set...  Memories...
Walt

I had both of those. This is turning into an "old fart" thread
 
I went to the Amiga 30 event in the fall! I now have new Amiga T-Shirts ... Life is good!
http://amiga30.com/
 
Allan

That's Mr. Old Fart to you! 
 
Walt

I've not been receiving emails or the newsletter either.

Let the people eat cake, I say.

I appreciated the membership model rather than the subscription model (which seems onerus and heavy-handed). Ownership vs rental is always preferred.
 
As a marketer (and musician), the change to a lifetime model makes a lot of sense. SONAR is a essentially a mature product. It's not going to have any MAJOR changes or updates...the engine is the engine.
 
The notion that the focus is going to be on plugins etc also makes sense. It's easier to manage and do QA for smaller projects which are customizations for users. Maybe CW will develop a plug that is like Sibelius or Notion etc. The users who need it (not me) would pay a little extra coin when they know it's integrated into SONAR...AND knowing they don't have to pay for SONAR upgrades every year.
 
My take: SONAR is a platform and it's going to get more plugs and customizations to consolidate its market for various audiences. It makes a lot of sense. But we'll see on June 1.

Karyn
They still haven't said who's lifetime they are referring to...

Oh, yes, they have.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3420483

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

Soundwise

digimidi
By the way, I have been with Cakewalk for a very, very long time, going back to Home Studio and then getting the Pro Audio range, then the Sonar range, the X-Series range, and finally the Platinum series range.  I have been using Cakewal FOREVER!

Good point! I wonder, what lifetime are we talking about? User's lifetme? Company's lifetime? PC Lifetime? Or product line lifetime?
If this update plan actually means flagship product of the company for user/company lifetime then it's quite an offer. If it's something else I'll probably stick with annual updates.

The lifetime updates are of course in reference to the lifetime of the product. We've been doing SONAR for about 16 years, no intention to stop. The future is bright. I see your price is $99 to get lifetime updates (because you already paid $99 earlier this year). If you opted to stick to annual, at the current price you would pay $149. Let's say you multiply this by 5 years. After 5 years, you'd pay $750 going annual. With lifetimes you have essentially paid $99 now (and $99 earlier this year) for a total of $200. Let's use the same logic for 10 years, after 10 years you'd pay $1500 vs. $200. 
 
Now, no one, not even us, can answer what the lifetime of SONAR is...is it 10 years, 100 years, 1000 years. What was the recording industry like 40 years ago? But we are more committed than ever and don't forget this our job as well. 
 
And finally, this is for the SONAR Platinum, our flagship. Clearly stated in the email.

SONAR for Mac OS?

streckfus

elderbj@aol.com
SONAR for Mac OS?

Based on what Cakewalk has said about this in the past I kinda doubt it, but who knows. That's been a pretty common speculation in this thread.

Yeah, I don't understand why though...   I'm not aware of any changes in DAW-dom or in AppleLand that would suddenly give CW a valid business case for re-creating SONAR from scratch.
 
 
 
 
 
 
PS...  Would it be big news though?   Uh, yup.  
 

stevec

streckfus

elderbj@aol.com
SONAR for Mac OS?

Based on what Cakewalk has said about this in the past I kinda doubt it, but who knows. That's been a pretty common speculation in this thread.

Yeah, I don't understand why though...   I'm not aware of any changes in DAW-dom or in AppleLand that would suddenly give CW a valid business case for re-creating SONAR from scratch.
 
 
 
 
 
 
PS...  Would it be big news though?   Uh, yup.  
 

My guess is that because Cakewalk stated that the upcoming news would affect existing and potential new users, people assumed that meant they could be widening the net to try to get Apple users onboard. But as has been discussed, there are already a handful of go-to DAWs on the Mac platform and it seems unlikely that Pro Tools/Logic users would jump ship if SONAR was made available to them. While there would certainly be some extra business on that front, it seems unlikely there'd be enough potential to justify the development resources it would take to get SONAR on Mac OS.
 
But yes, if that were indeed what they have planned, SONAR on Mac would absolutely be big news!

What I mean is, something like this, but very tightly integrated with SONAR.