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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 06:35:15 (permalink)
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I'm curious about the lifetime upgrade. Does the lifetime upgrade give the same options that the current 12 month option gives? The 12 month option gave those members things like vocal sync and help integration, but it also updated plugins and added new things like AAS analog synth.



We need some cliff notes in the opening post to avoid having to post the same stuff over and over again :(.
Cakewalk reps have explicitly said that there will be no difference in content between a lifetime membership and the regular monthly/yearly membership. There have been no promises however on to what that content would be like in the future.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 09:39:39 (permalink)
This is a little weird! I had 2 options in my logged in store for Lifetime one at $149 and one at $99, the other day. Today I clicked on the link in an email from Joey Adams and now I only have the $149 one.
 
Anyone know what that's about? I bought SPLAT and renewed it, once.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 10:29:28 (permalink)
Please let it be they have FINALLY ported a version to Mac OSX!!
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 11:33:05 (permalink)
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This is a little weird! I had 2 options in my logged in store for Lifetime one at $149 and one at $99, the other day. Today I clicked on the link in an email from Joey Adams and now I only have the $149 one.
 
Anyone know what that's about? I bought SPLAT and renewed it, once.
Michael


I just resent the email. Use the link in the email. There's no way you got a link that had a $149 price. You are probably using the current Membership one.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 11:35:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Geo524 2016/05/27 15:25:03
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Juggernaught
I'm curious about the lifetime upgrade. Does the lifetime upgrade give the same options that the current 12 month option gives? The 12 month option gave those members things like vocal sync and help integration, but it also updated plugins and added new things like AAS analog synth.



We need some cliff notes in the opening post to avoid having to post the same stuff over and over again :(.
Cakewalk reps have explicitly said that there will be no difference in content between a lifetime membership and the regular monthly/yearly membership. There have been no promises however on to what that content would be like in the future.


What he said. There's not going to be two flavors of SONAR. Only difference now is that Membership only runs for 12 months. Updates will be the same. In fact, people who bought lifetime updates for Platinum just got an update yesterday. So did Membership and monthly folks. It was the same.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 12:59:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/05/27 13:31:22
I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 15:02:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Geo524 2016/05/27 15:24:37
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I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)


That was actually part of the reasoning for the agile delivery. It can be overwhelming to learn a bunch of new features at once and sometimes you never get around to them. By doing the updates incrementally, we are allowing people to adopt and learn new features at a slower pace which I think ultimately is beneficial.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 15:51:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Notecrusher 2016/05/29 20:19:42
This better not turn out to be trivial.
 
Marketing........
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 15:56:15 (permalink)
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I cannot think of any other vendor that is engaged to the level CW and you are.


Harrison Mixbus forum is pretty close. In fact I would say that Ben has an almost open door policy followed by x42 (an Ardour Developer I believe).
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 16:27:42 (permalink)
Hoenerbr already mentioned online collaboration on page 2. Maybe it is some form of tightly integrated realtime collaboration. Imagine being able to invite other SONAR users to your session from within SONAR, and then the project gets synced between the two (SONAR uploads the full project, including all audio etc). The two will then play back in sync etc, and you can record on either/both.
 
Lots of technical challenges with that, including latency, both needing the same plugins, similar IO setups etc.
 
Maybe a more limited version, where one SONAR is the master, and you can add new audio and/or MIDI tracks on the slave that can be recorded to. The master would need to at least send pre-rendered versions of tracks to the slave to make sure the user on the slave can hear the full project (they need to be individual tracks to make sure mute/solo works correctly on both sides).
 
Kinda like Steinberg's VST Connect Pro, but built into SONAR.
 
Or something.
 
 
 
 


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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 17:14:57 (permalink)
You're going to include a "Do what I meant to do" feature.... no, really. 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 17:35:24 (permalink)
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This better not turn out to be trivial.
 
Marketing........


I don't think this will be trivial. I would say lifetime updates is already pretty significant. The other two are significant as well. 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 17:45:13 (permalink)
If they go Mac Im back......
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 19:33:03 (permalink)
My wife says: "It's Probably a new compressor, cause you can't have enough of those, right?"
 
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 19:51:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby doyouwannit 2016/05/29 16:45:53
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This better not turn out to be trivial.
 
Marketing........


I don't think this will be trivial. I would say lifetime updates is already pretty significant. The other two are significant as well. 


Definitely so. I'd like to see Avid, Presonus, Cubase, etc... or any other company offer free lifetime updates. I for one am very grateful to be part of this most gracious offer. I would have gladly paid $200 but $99 was a steal. Just wanted to say thanks again to all at Cakewalk.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 19:53:50 (permalink)
well like the new colour interface i'm using sonar platinum steam edition! :)
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 20:05:42 (permalink)
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I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)




We don't plan on stopping frequent updates. I strongly believe its the way all software will be distributed in the future. The days of monolithic updates are numbered. Its not only expensive in the long run to support (we used to have multiple patch releases to an annual release), but it also is much more disruptive to users esp when there are changes to the user interface since there is a big learning curve. With more frequent updates users are more engaged and we can also adapt to any requests much faster and efficiently.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 21:47:10 (permalink)
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I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)


That was actually part of the reasoning for the agile delivery. It can be overwhelming to learn a bunch of new features at once and sometimes you never get around to them. By doing the updates incrementally, we are allowing people to adopt and learn new features at a slower pace which I think ultimately is beneficial.




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I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)




We don't plan on stopping frequent updates. I strongly believe its the way all software will be distributed in the future. The days of monolithic updates are numbered. Its not only expensive in the long run to support (we used to have multiple patch releases to an annual release), but it also is much more disruptive to users esp when there are changes to the user interface since there is a big learning curve. With more frequent updates users are more engaged and we can also adapt to any requests much faster and efficiently.


That is great news guys! You have certainly achieved what you set out to do - it is  infinitely more engaging for the end user. In hindsight, up until rolling updates, upon each single, large release my goal was simply to make sure I could still do things the same way I had been doing them for years before the new version - inspiring stuff:) It appears to be a two way street as well - Sonar seems to me to have moved ahead in leaps and bounds over the last 18 months. That could of course be due to my self imposed ignorance of new features previously:) 

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/27 22:00:50 (permalink)
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I have been using Sonar in the studio every day for a long time. Today I realised that I have probably explored and adopted more new features in the past 18 months than I have in the past decade or two of using Sonar, or any daw for that matter. The rolling, all inclusive updates are solely responsible for that. Whilst I am happy to take up lifetime updates, I hope the new model, whatever it may be, still leads me down that path of discovering the extras too:)




We don't plan on stopping frequent updates. I strongly believe its the way all software will be distributed in the future. The days of monolithic updates are numbered. Its not only expensive in the long run to support (we used to have multiple patch releases to an annual release), but it also is much more disruptive to users esp when there are changes to the user interface since there is a big learning curve. With more frequent updates users are more engaged and we can also adapt to any requests much faster and efficiently.


Besides I'm a really big fan of the "frequent" updates. I see an already fairly active forum being more active due to a new version out every month.  I see a closer community because of it. We all seem to have a more positive view overall here. I see CW being even more involved with the forum.  To put it in a very few words its just better all around.
 
Also in the past CW was rather tight lipped about future updates. That is not so much the case anymore.  We are not just being handed a new version once a year but brought along with the flow. I think it shows a more cooperative approach between the members and CW. That has to be a really good thing. The feedback CW gets has more importance than in the past. It helps set the direction and is a huge reserve of good ideas CW can mine.
 
 
 

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 00:14:15 (permalink)
I have to agree. Cakewalk is a unique company and I can't think of any other I deal with now, or in the past, that was so interactive with its customers. At the end of the day, that's what gets my money.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 03:05:58 (permalink)
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I don't think this will be trivial. I would say lifetime updates is already pretty significant. The other two are significant as well. 



So there's 2 other things on June 1st then.
 
Damn, i spent all this time just trying to work out what one thing could be, now i've got to worry about 2 things, lol.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 03:18:52 (permalink)
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 03:22:05 (permalink)
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My wife says: "It's Probably a new compressor, cause you can't have enough of those, right?"
 
 




This is V.V. Funny!

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 06:01:09 (permalink)
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I don't think this will be trivial. I would say lifetime updates is already pretty significant. The other two are significant as well. 



So there's 2 other things on June 1st then.
 
Damn, i spent all this time just trying to work out what one thing could be, now i've got to worry about 2 things, lol.


Doubles the chances for a Mac version.
( not really, but I can delude myself for a couple more days )

To kick this marketing buzz fest to an even higher level of frenzy, Cake should start a contest:

If you guess correctly one of the two other new things, you get your name put in a drawing for a discount on the one thing you guessed right.

If you guess both new things correctly, you get your name put in a drawing for a free version of one of the two new things.

Here are my entries to the nonexistent contest:

1) Mac version of Sonar (of course)
2) iPad Sonar control app for both PC and Mac versions
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 06:41:48 (permalink)
I am a longtime Cakewalk user. Got a nice lifetime offer I will accept.
Having said that I think I have an idea what the announcements may contain.
 
I visited a MusicFair in Europe two months ago and asked why a particular controller would not accommodate Sonar but all the other “popular” DAW’s. The manager gave me two reasons:
  1. Sonar is among DAW’s a very small player
  2. The type of programming of Sonar makes it difficult.
 
Especially with the first point I had difficulties. When I combine it with the lifetime offer I must conclude that survival chances for Sonar decline if it is the truth.
 
So my guess is that Sonar …… combines/ merges with another big DAW ! I even have an idea which DAW it is: …. Magix Samplitude. Popularity of Samplitude has been steadily declining and last month Samplitude Suite, a 600 dollar package, has been offered to me for 150 dollar.
 
Just an idea that moves in another direction than de MAC theory 
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 08:30:22 (permalink)
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So my guess is that Sonar …… combines/ merges with another big DAW ! I even have an idea which DAW it is: …. Magix Samplitude. 
...

Hmm. This strikes me as remarkably unlikely. How would one go about 'merging' Sonar with Samplitude? They have completely different codebases. I think that would quite likely be a more difficult proposition, and certainly make less sense, than starting a whole new one from scratch. 
 
Samplitude is a very fine product, from everything I've heard and read. And I don't think Magix is exactly on the ropes or anything - they just bought most of the Sony Creative Software fleet, including Sound Forge, Acid and the Vegas family. But I don't have the impression Gibson is looking to unload Sonar just yet, and it wouldn't make much sense for Magix to buy Cakewalk even if they were, so unless Gibson has secretly acquired Magix and isn't announcing it yet, I think this is a red herring. 
 
That offer on Samplitude Suite would be tempting though! Not that I need to learn yet another DAW or anything. 

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 09:33:31 (permalink)
What if Cakewalk Sonar, became Gibson Sonar?

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 11:10:54 (permalink)
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What if Cakewalk Sonar, became Gibson Sonar?


Gibsonar
 

 
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What if Cakewalk Sonar, became Gibson Sonar?


Gibsonar
 


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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/28 12:45:19 (permalink)
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What if Cakewalk Sonar, became Gibson Sonar?




A DAW in every guitar? Would help increase sales....
 
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