bronsoncox
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:34:44
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brconflict
Lastly, does the future-proof purchase (lifetime updates) cover switching to Mac?
Beat me to it.
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:34:56
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ProjectM
I will never look at Windows again as soon as I have MacSonar installed! 
what is wrong with Windows?
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doncolga
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:35:19
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Count me HAPPY on ALL THREE COUNTS!
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:36:15
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nonametoday
LOL, 3rd announcement is just a link to the rolling updates page.
what a waste of time refreshing the website just for that.
No - Ripple editing, revamped comp etc. EDIT. Sorry - yes:) Pretty cool updates though!
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:37:07
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ProjectM
I will never look at Windows again as soon as I have MacSonar installed!
Same here. The main reason I was ever on Windows was Sonar. Totally nothing wrong with Windows, but I do other stuff on the OSX platform.
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Jari
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:37:32
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ProjectM
I will never look at Windows again as soon as I have MacSonar installed!
what is wrong with Windows?
Microsoft 
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TerraSin
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:38:49
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For me the most exciting announcement is Take Management & Comping Enhancements. This is something we've needed since comping came to Sonar.
Kind of disappointed MIDI editing isn't listed. They really need to rebuild that from the ground up.
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Anderton
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:38:56
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nonametoday
LOL, 3rd announcement is just a link to the rolling updates page.
what a waste of time refreshing the website just for that.
Maybe the link wasn't correct, I checked and it's not going to the Rolling Updates page. But the details in the Rolling Updates page are pretty interesting.
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sonarman1
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:39:34
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If someone's too lazy to check in website  -------- When you buy a product, you want it to exceed your expectations. That’s why we’re committed to making SONAR awesome -- and not just by our standards. We’ll start by addressing some of the more commonly-reported issues users are facing. In 2016, we’ll introduce a new, highly requested “ripple editing” function to improve the editing workflow in SONAR. We’ll also streamline the code for better plug-in load balancing, providing optimal performance in large projects containing many plug-ins, and we’ll revamp the comping feature so take management is more user-friendly. And with SONAR Analytics now at our disposal, and a responsive feedback portal on its way, we’ll be monitoring your comments, feedback, and requests closely so we can respond quickly and ensure that your experience with SONAR is… awesome.
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Jari
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:42:23
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Ok. Just checked my price: 237 euros (from Sonar X3 Producer). Way too much for my current budget. 
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ProjectM
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:44:29
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doncolga
ProjectM
I will never look at Windows again as soon as I have MacSonar installed!
Same here. The main reason I was ever on Windows was Sonar. Totally nothing wrong with Windows, but I do other stuff on the OSX platform.
Jepp! Same here and it came to a point where Windows annoyed me severely for one last time and I sold my PCs and had to consider Sonar a casualty of war. I haven't regretted it once - but I've missed Sonar quite a bit. When I boot up Bootcamp to do something with old Sonar projects, it runs quite well, but Windows still get on my nerves!
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:44:30
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nonametoday
LOL, 3rd announcement is just a link to the rolling updates page.
what a waste of time refreshing the website just for that.
Maybe the link wasn't correct, I checked and it's not going to the Rolling Updates page. But the details in the Rolling Updates page are pretty interesting.
The oven is HOT
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Anderton
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:45:25
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Ripple Editing is a big deal - Cakewalk wants to end the "delete hole" issues, but if ripple editing is implemented similarly to how it's implemented in Vegas, this will make a big difference in arranging. Take and Comping management will also be welcome, and the plug-in load balancing (basically doing pipelining for the audio engine) will mean being able to load more plug-ins, fewer dropouts, etc.
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TerraSin
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:46:12
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Anderton
Maybe the link wasn't correct, I checked and it's not going to the Rolling Updates page. But the details in the Rolling Updates page are pretty interesting.
It takes you to the statement of commitment page which has a link to rolling updates.
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LJB
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:47:26
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Seems I scored - I updated the day Lifetime came out for $149-. A $50 saving is a huge amount in my currency :O)
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TerraSin
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:47:35
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I was hoping Cakewalk would have bought out Magix and merged Sonar and Vegas Pro. j/k
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PilotGav
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:47:52
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berlymahn
Whelp.... I hope they are successful with the OSX path!
Sonar X3 (and beyond) has been such a wonderful creation...truly a life saver for me. Looking forwarded to new and great stuff from CW.
That said, this whole marketing "wait until June 1st" thing (for all us Windows-based Sonar users), now feels a bit like finding out that the super-hot blind date we've been looking forward to having sex with, is actually a guy.
A really hot guy, but still, a guy. Ha!
Well played, Cakewalk. Well played.
This is the best post I've every read on ANY forum. Worth the June 1 letdown!! ;-)
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Geo524
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:48:49
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No big news for me as I could care less about MAC. I am excited for Cakewalk though. I believe running Sonar on a MAC will expand their user base which means more sales and stability for the company! Go Cakewalk!!
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rtucker55
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:49:32
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Nothing about Phone Support, or, lack of?...
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
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PilotGav
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:52:02
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I'm happy that Cakey is now working on a Mac version... but I have to say they really blew it on the marketing side.
All this buildup for two future changes, and a new way to pay for the product today.
I'm happy they did all this, but they just wasted a marketing tool that you can only blow once.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:52:21
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forkol
This is so true, but it just got me thinking....maybe you can now get into making Hackintoshes.
It might not be a bad idea. I know from a support issue it might painful, but from what I've been reading about them for DAW use, many people are running stable systems and you can put much more power than what you can get with a regular Mac for far, far less money.
I'm going to now consider building one now just to see if I can get Sonar Mac running on it.
FWIW, I built a nice Hackintosh. If you like solving problems/puzzles, it is fun/educational. Some things work well... others don't. You are by definition running a hacked OS. ie: If you want to run VE Pro as a slave, the LAN drivers for Hackintosh don't support Jumbo-Frames. On a real Mac, the LAN port supports Jumbo-Frames. When running Win10 on the same hardware, the LAN port supports Jumbo-Frames. Running VE Pro as a slave (with disk-streaming sample libraries being routed back to the Master via LAN), this makes a huge difference. While a Hackintosh does solve the "custom configuration" facet, you're left with a machine that's not a PC and not quite a Mac.  While everything "works"... you find that some things don't work as well as the real deal. Any future update to OSX can foul up your configuration. Then, there are the legal issues. No biggie if you're just experimenting and having fun. For a business, it would be a hornets-nest of legal/support issues. If Apple allowed complete customization of hardware... and got rid of iTunes (Big Brother), I'd feel a lot different.
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LANEY
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:53:00
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Seems like a good deal! LIFETIME BABY!
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JayCee99
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:53:53
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I see that "Plugin Browser enhancements" is now listed. What happened to the "Library / Browser" enhancements that was listed previously? I was really excited about the whole library / browser being re-vamped.
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John
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:54:39
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The upcoming features look darn good. I like most of them. This may turn out to be a great year for Sonar and CW!
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:54:42
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Jari
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ProjectM
I will never look at Windows again as soon as I have MacSonar installed!
what is wrong with Windows?
Microsoft
Is it worse then Apple? MAC == PC build from limited set of components. In general good quality components, that is why people think MAC is more stable then (arbitrary) "PC". But Apple does not care about "long live", it gives extreme short warranty period compare to usual PC equivalents, and many MACs are failing 1-2 month after this period is over. The "bundle" is also extreme overpriced (just "construct" a PC using the same components as in some MAC in any on-line store to see the price of the Apple sign and OSX). So the only difference is in OS. Are Windows, OSX and Linux really different? In small details only. OSX almost natively runs Linux apps, Linux can run most Windows apps and Windows has almost complete Linux apps set. Do you see what is not there? Linux and Windows are not running OSX apps, at least I am not aware about such software. Just to be complete, Android is different. It is special Java virtual machine running under Linux
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:55:23
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meh . . . at least i got lifetime updates out of this for a cheap price, so if i ever decide to come back to using sonar i'm all set, until if and when that happens i'm staying with my other daw
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:55:34
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berlymahn
That said, this whole marketing "wait until June 1st" thing (for all us Windows-based Sonar users), now feels a bit like finding out that the super-hot blind date we've been looking forward to having sex with, is actually a guy.
A really hot guy, but still, a guy. Ha!
Well played, Cakewalk. Well played.
Don't know if I would have thought about it that way... but yeah.
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forkol
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:57:44
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Mac Support: My thoughts...
It's going to be a challenge for Cakewalk to grab market share enough to make Mac development worthwhile. Most initial interest will be in those PC users that actually want to move to MAC, or a brand-new Mac user that is not already satisfied with their choices already. In other words, Cake would need to get market share from Logic, Live, Studio One, and Pro Tools. I don't see them pulling many from Logic and Live, mainly because Logic is almost given away in price, and I believe Live users are their for the clip views. Studio One you might pick off a few. Pro Tools, well, if you're still using it on a Mac, you are probably going to keep using it.
Feature wise, the 1st release of Sonar Mac will have to go up against DAW's that have quite a bit of head start in that space. And I know I've seen the comments from Bakers saying this won't affect PC users in terms of quality or support, but I would have a very difficult time believing that. Any resource spent on creating/supporting a Mac version could have been also used to fix or create new features for PC users. If you're of the mind that having this on the Mac will create new customers to help fund this, well, I'm having a hard time RIGHT NOW in seeing the economics in this to 'flip' a user to Sonar MAC.
I think for this to be successful, it's going to take a LOT of work, support and money, money, money. It's going to have to pretty stable coming out, and it's going to have to have compelling features AND also a compelling price point. You have to make the price very competitive in order to attract new users. It's a lot to have to try to get right. Best case, you are successful enough so that you're at least a 3rd, 4th, 5th place player against Logic and Live. Worst case, you have another Project 5-level failure that could end up sinking Cakewalk.
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e.Blue
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:58:58
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This is indeed GREAT news! The only reason that I'm still on the PC platform is that I have about 20 years of experience using SONAR and its fore-bearers. During that time I've created hundreds of .CWB and .CWP projects. Despite also owning just about every other major DAW including Pro Tools, Logic, Studio One, Ableton, none of them can touch SONAR when it comes to workflow.
However, lately I've been growing increasingly concerned about the lag in audio hardware support on the PC platform. Several major hardware vendors have hot products that simply cannot be fully-utilized on modern PCs. This includes Universal Audio's latest Apollo rack-mount interfaces, Slate's Raven touch consoles and Avid's latest control surfaces. Currently when new audio interfaces are announced, it's not uncommon for PC support to lag by years, as was the case for Mark of the Unicorn's AVB line. The bottom line is that Microsoft has lost a lot of ground in the audio market by not fully-supporting Thunderbolt at the OS level.
Ironically, this may be changing soon as Microsoft is finally finishing up a brand new Thunderbolt audio stack which is based around USB 3.1/C and promises to greatly simplify what developers need to do to get their hardware up and running on Windowa 10 PCs.
I think that finally having SONAR on the Mac platform will open it up to an entire new generation of DAW users.
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TerraSin
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016
2016/06/01 11:59:07
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PilotGavI'm happy that Cakey is now working on a Mac version... but I have to say they really blew it on the marketing side.
All this buildup for two future changes, and a new way to pay for the product today.
I'm happy they did all this, but they just wasted a marketing tool that you can only blow once.
I kind of agree here. We're still months away from the Mac client actually being available. It would have been better to wait until they could download it immediately. Nice to know it will be available but a lot of people will likely forget about it by Autumn. I still stand by my comment that handing out an Alpha/Beta client to users who aren't knowledgeable in testing is a HUGE mistake.
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