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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:10:09 (permalink)
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:15:34 (permalink)
Could you enlighten me; "What if i want to tranfer all of my work to another PC after all cake servers go to down?"
What am i goin to do? I bought Sonar Platinum by using Steam and i got lifetime pass. Also i have got sonar Steam Edition key?
 
I am waitin reponse from Gibson Guys if you are here.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:15:49 (permalink)
From the FAQ webpage after Gibson acquired Cakewalk..
 
Will SONAR continue to be developed?
Of course! As a market and technology leader with many industry firsts, SONAR will be the flagship product of TASCAM Professional Software. The program will continue to innovate in exciting, unique, and even surprising ways. Who will handle technical support and questions about the program? Cakewalk will continue to handle customer support and questions.
 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:17:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2017/11/22 14:09:37
Greg Hendershott, if you're out there, here's a chance to save what was once yours. Please!

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:23:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Electric1Gypsy 2017/11/22 21:09:46
To be honest I'm kinda heartened by the amount of empathic reactions here. I also feel very sad for all the folks at CW, I've met and worked with Jim Landry personally and I know he's a stand up guy working his ass off for this company, I'm sure the same goes for everyone else.
 
But mostly I'm livid at Gibson. This has to have been part of their plan all along. Either that or the top level management is nefariously whimsical. To switch to the monthly membership deal, get many people to pay another 200 bucks for a "special lifetime deal" and then pull the plug less than two years later (if my math is correct) is just a complete FU to the consumer (in many cases working pros who depend on the product).
 
I hope the folks at CW all get nice jobs in the industry, honestly I don't suppose many feel very enthused about staying with Gibson.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:26:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/11/22 18:15:04
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But mostly I'm livid at Gibson. This has to have been part of their plan all along.

"Plan" is not a word I've associated with Gibson for quite some time now.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:27:51 (permalink)
As a Cakewalk user since the Twelve Tone days I am really disappointed with this. Having read all of this thread I think it would be a good idea for the Bakers to issue a .dat file to all registered users which would allow re-installations when the servers die. That's what you get if you register off-line, so surely there must be a way to produce a generic file. 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:27:52 (permalink)

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:33:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wmountney 2017/11/22 17:30:37
Unbelievable... 
Been using this since the days of DOS Cakewalk, then synced with Samplitude, then took a break and discovered Sonar 2.0. Why do this guys? I just "subscribed" like 6 months ago after running 8.5 forever.
Unbelievable...
Look at what you are shutting down, 30yrs of freaking development, tweaking, insight, and features. This is one of the few if not the "oldest" DAW software out there... and you are just going to kill it?
No regard to those who spent on it, who dedicated time talent and cash to the product you now own?
This is the problem with business in general today, we have been sold a bill of goods by the MBAs of the world, and nothing has value. 30 years of development guys!!! 30 freakin' years, older than the operating system it now runs on... "oh lets reorganize and streamline our operation, what can we cut to achieve an artificial number someone came up with in finance"
I know its hard to see a piece of software as a classic... 
Unbelieveable...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:36:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby papacucku 2017/11/22 14:28:41
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Unbelievable... 
Been using this since the days of DOS Cakewalk, then synced with Samplitude, then took a break and discovered Sonar 2.0. Why do this guys? I just "subscribed" like 6 months ago after running 8.5 forever.
Unbelievable...
Look at what you are shutting down, 30yrs of freaking development, tweaking, insight, and features. This is one of the few if not the "oldest" DAW software out there... and you are just going to kill it?
No regard to those who spent on it, who dedicated time talent and cash to the product you now own?
This is the problem with business in general today, we have been sold a bill of goods by the MBAs of the world, and nothing has value. 30 years of development guys!!! 30 freakin' years, older than the operating system it now runs on... "oh lets reorganize and streamline our operation, what can we cut to achieve an artificial number someone came up with in finance"
I know its hard to see a piece of software as a classic... 
Unbelieveable...




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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:38:05 (permalink)
How much of a loss was it making anyway? Does anyone know? Any recommendations on moving to an alternate DAW, migration paths etc.?
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 13:51:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Taurean Mixing 2017/11/22 13:58:18
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It's like a death in the family!


 

No, it really isn't. Only someone who is emotionally r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d. would actually say or believe that. Reality check: A software product you've enjoyed using extensively over a long period of time will no longer be updated. Deal with it. Try googling: Grief counselors for discontinued computer applications re Opcode Vision et al



 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:01:06 (permalink)
I do not find any other DAW that is able to do our job in digitizing thousends of tapes, vinyl ...
There are a lot of DAWs on the market - but not with the capacity of SONAR for our job.
I can hang myself.
It's no fun anymore to play on my Gibson guitars. It's no fun anymore to use a Stanton record player (Stanton = Gibson).
 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:04:53 (permalink)
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I do not find any other DAW that is able to do our job in digitizing thousends of tapes, vinyl ...
There are a lot of DAWs on the market - but not with the capacity of SONAR for our job.
I can hang myself.
It's no fun anymore to play on my Gibson guitars. It's no fun anymore to use a Stanton record player (Stanton = Gibson).
 



I suppose for digitizing you could take the entire system off the internet and just keep running the show? Or do you need to keep updating your software and OS?

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:10:27 (permalink)
Oh crap...

Just recording and mixing two albums right now on Sonar and I have to admit that I'm a little bit concerned if I can wrap them up before some plugins I'm using start to popup some errors, etc. I guess I just have to check out some options; Reaper, Cubase, something else?

I still enjoy playing my Gibson guitars, though. :/
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:11:46 (permalink)
Hey exit the lemming, check the acoustica pages. This weekend thru Tuesday, Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio is on sale for $99 (45% off SRP of $179). Please share with your SONAR friends. Thank you for the inquiry.
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I just heard the news that Cakewalk’s Boston HQ offices have closed. My name is Anthony Conte (currently VP for the Mixcraft DAW), and I spent 19 years at Cakewalk, including 12 years as the Vice President of Sales. For decades I worked with many of the brilliant, incredibly talented folks that now find themselves out of a job.  My heart aches for the current Cakewalkers and the thousands of SONAR users across the globe. Simply put, this is the end of an era in the world of MIDI and Digital Audio recording.
 
While I do not know the fate of SONAR or what Gibson’s plans are for Cakewalk, I can assure all the current Cakewalkers that their future is bright. For the last six years, I have been lucky enough to have landed at a like-minded company, Acoustica, makers of Mixcraft 8, an award-winning DAW for the PC. Not coincidentally enough, Acoustica freakishly reminds me of the early days at Cakewalk. A small but growing music software company made up of great people who are passionate, innovative, hard-working, and who have all become my family. Acoustica is committed to making Mixcraft a DAW that SONAR users will want to seriously consider adopting. Thanks,Anthony

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:15:00 (permalink)
good job guys SONAR was great (still is!)

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:18:21 (permalink)
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It's like a death in the family!


 
A software product you've enjoyed using extensively over a long period of time will no longer be updated. Deal with it. 



 




LOL while you are correct ....the emotional impact is a result from the truth that for many of us old folks, it a software product we have enjoyed using extensively over a lifetime.  The fist commercially available PC based midi sequencer. Add this to the fact there are much better ways to announce/plan/communicate the discontinuation of software.  Many examples of how to effectively do this since as you alluded to ... this happens folks.  While sonar is no operating system.  I might have looked at how Microsoft deals with the end of life of operating systems.   I personally kind of questioned the verbiage of all the lifetime updates etc.  Aluminum siding companies for example are known to sell the 30 year and lifetime warranty pitch, while the companies routinely pack up and close only to open under new names.  Moving companies also routinely get horrible reviews and lawsuits and then just open under a new roof, only to repeat the same corporate graft. No offense to any siding or moving professionals.  I studied this kind of thing while getting post graduate degree in business and it interests me. 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 14:57:00 (permalink)
My heart goes out to the cakewalk staff who need food on the table for their families. Thank you for contributing to a product wich has been a joy to use.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:04:15 (permalink)
(facepalm) ~ Gibson...

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:16:24 (permalink)
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Knock on the Microsoft's door they are more fit and uptodate in PC softwares than Gibson !


genial idea!
and they were looking for developers & audio specialists short time ago.
they have the power to make sonar the "logic" from Microsoft :-)

Yes, I read that somewhere some weeks or so ago.
 
Incredible amount of knowhow in Cakewalk staff/devs to be hired by MS.
 
There have been things like dll-count causing plugins not to load on windows etc - seemingly that MS does not know audio industry that well. So they need to up their game a bit.
 
Sonar is too good a product to just be barried as well. It will turn up somewhere.

 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:16:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rspagnuolo 2017/11/25 00:47:53
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It's like a death in the family!


 

No, it really isn't. Only someone who is emotionally r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d. would actually say or believe that. Reality check: A software product you've enjoyed using extensively over a long period of time will no longer be updated. Deal with it. Try googling: Grief counselors for discontinued computer applications re Opcode Vision et al
 

 
As an analogy, likening the loss of Sonar/Cakewalk is perhaps a bit too dramatic and unrealistic. Nevertheless, it is still a loss. Many here on the forum, including myself, 'love' Sonar and use it daily - and have invested many $$ into it over the years. 
 
Many here exhibit aspects of loss - like anger (at Gibson, for trusting in whoever offered 'lifetime' updates, recently spending money) sadness (at the thought of staff losing their livelihoods at this time of the year), depression and anxiety (over thoughts of the potential of loss of countless projects, fear of future re-authorization issues) etc.
 
All common and normal reactions to something that has a deep value for many of us. We are familiar with, have made great music with it, know it well and have great support - if not with Cake support recently - at least with the very supportive forum members here.
 
Yeah, I'm sure we'll all deal with it in our own ways as time move on. It might take some of us longer who may perhaps be holding out for some future life of Sonar, or a wealthy benefactor and the like. Many of us will become proactive - and are already doing so - in looking at alternates in case of bizarre Window updates, etc. Some may be proactive at continuing Sonar in another form. So I'm sure we'll 'get over it' in time but I certainly don't believe it's supportive saying someone is emotionally '****ed' for maybe believing their loss is great. 
 
PS. And I agree that nothing lasts forever - even lifetime updates...maybe they should have said a year - and this includes software.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:27:20 (permalink)
Have you guys tried voicing your displeasure in The Bakery? 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:27:22 (permalink)
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I do not find any other DAW that is able to do our job in digitizing thousends of tapes, vinyl ...
There are a lot of DAWs on the market - but not with the capacity of SONAR for our job.
I can hang myself.
It's no fun anymore to play on my Gibson guitars. It's no fun anymore to use a Stanton record player (Stanton = Gibson).



I'm curious as to what is this special feature of Sonar that other DAWs don't have?
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:29:49 (permalink)
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didd
Knock on the Microsoft's door they are more fit and uptodate in PC softwares than Gibson !


genial idea!
and they were looking for developers & audio specialists short time ago.
they have the power to make sonar the "logic" from Microsoft :-)

Yes, I read that somewhere some weeks or so ago.
 
Incredible amount of knowhow in Cakewalk staff/devs to be hired by MS.
 
There have been things like dll-count causing plugins not to load on windows etc - seemingly that MS does not know audio industry that well. So they need to up their game a bit.
 
Sonar is too good a product to just be barried as well. It will turn up somewhere.



MS is not interested in the audio world - it's too small potatoes in comparison to the home use and business use world which is what they have the market in.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:35:38 (permalink)
Hey mods : Why was my post deleted?

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:42:19 (permalink)
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Hey mods : Why was my post deleted?


Yip .. I have had a post AND a new thread removed today. Was not railing against anyone, was just asking about Cakewalk going forward re Momentum .. and is the future in Cloud and Apps. The post was link to an article about slash being made a brand ambassador for Gibson recently .. I had no comment otherwise, just quoted text in ""
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:42:48 (permalink)
I thought of Harmony Central Last night as the perfect place to take this crew of ours. So happy to see Craig say the same. I say we follow Craig ad not loose touch with each other by scattering to a dozen forums. 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:44:02 (permalink)
I'm sorry to see Cakewalk go. I used it faithfully for about 10 years until Sonar just didn't meet the needs I had working on film post production. But I still had a warm part in my heart for Sonar and Cakewalk. Perhaps someone could come along and purchase the rights and make Sonar happen again? Perhaps not. This is always the risk we run when working with software, sadly. 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/22 15:44:18 (permalink)
 

MS is not interested in the audio world - it's too small potatoes in comparison to the home use and business use world which is what they have the market in.




My view on this would be different. MS is pushing subscription cloud based software plans for a while now .. ie OFFICE 365. Surely CAKEWALK fits in with this due to its subscription payment thing of recent times? 
 
 
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