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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 02:26:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Leee 2017/11/23 05:57:22
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It's like a death in the family!


 

No, it really isn't. Only someone who is emotionally r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d. would actually say or believe that. Reality check: A software product you've enjoyed using extensively over a long period of time will no longer be updated. Deal with it. Try googling: Grief counselors for discontinued computer applications re Opcode Vision et al


No need for this. If you don't like the way someone expresses himself about this, you can keep it to yourself, rather than mock someone who's distressed.



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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 02:36:53 (permalink)
After using Cakewalk since 1993. I guess it is time to start looking for a new DAW. Thanks all at Cakewalk for creating such a wonderful software. Hope for the best!

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 02:49:42 (permalink)
Thanks Noel and the Cakewalk team. 
Thanks to the forum community for contributing and supporting Cakewalk over the many years. 
 I picked up Guitar Studio (12 tones) at my local GC 20 years ago and never looked back. Though I'm a hobbyist, Cake was the 1st to give me outlet for my music and I am very grateful for that. 
Unfortunately, in the end it's just business....I'm keeping my Gibby's......and my Sonar.... they have always sounded so well together! 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 02:59:51 (permalink)
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Why i bought a update for ever ? i've been stole so?

 
Yeah, I used to feel so great about lifetime updates. 
 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 03:00:10 (permalink)
Man.  I was just getting used to Sonar.  I threw my lot in with Sonar after Sony bought and iced Acid.  Boy can I pick 'em.
 
But seriously, Sonar is awesome.  Is there anything else that really compares?  Who else has comparable timing correction like the transient snapping?  Where do I go now?  Ugh.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 03:55:43 (permalink)
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OK, It's been about a day now and I still can't believe this. Surely Cakewalk can't just die. I hope so much that someone rescues it. If not, then I hope something really good comes out of it. Like the bakers get together and develop a brand new, amazing DAW. Either way, Gibson will curl up into a ball and die and hopefully rot away with no one putting any flowers on its grave. I always hated Gibson with a passion since I was a kid. I might have known they would screw up my favorite DAW.


A lot of ragging here these last few days about Gibson, like that's where the blame trail leads to ?
Let's not forget the entire music industry is having the rug pulled out from underneath.
Technology and innovation have changed the way Gibson has done business for a very long time, they just haven't adapted quickly enough. I don't buy guitars anymore, I buy sampled guitars. Portable studio on a mobile phone ?
No need for wired devices, even speakers can be wireless.
Mostly, sad to see the end of Cakewalk was probably some corporate decision, by folks who aren't musicians.
 
I read Noel's original post announcement again this afternoon, and noticed he used the word "transition"
So maybe there's some hope there will be something to transition to.
 . . . but at the pace technology is moving, no one is going to wait around very long.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:07:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FettsVett 2017/11/23 04:19:01
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30 years.... too young to die 
 



 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:09:18 (permalink)
Brutal, I feared this day may come the moment I heard that Gibson was taking over I wish all of the loyal employees and users safe travels.  Oh and Gibson I will never buy another product that you sell endorse or have anything to do with 
 
 
 
 
 
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post edited by Karyn - 2017/11/23 08:03:42
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:11:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FettsVett 2017/11/23 04:20:24
There's ragging on Gibson, because Gibson is a terrible company from a management perspective.  They have some fabulous people working for Gibson, but the management at Gibson are complete morons.  Yes the economics of the day have ravaged the music merchant industry.   NAMM is a shell of what it once was.  Having said that, I know folks that work at DW, and that work for Behringer Music Group, and while those guys are struggling to, they treat their employees like family.  They have also for the most part stuck to their core business.
 
The stuff on Glassdoor about Gibson isn't an accident.  It's the result of a flailing company who has forgotten who they are, and have tried to branch out in areas where they have no expertise and then gather more debt, and run those subsidiaries into the ground.  The employees have been suffering and Gibson has created a toxic work environment while at the same time bleeding their stockholders dry.
 
Gibson had no business buying Cakewalk in the first place, or Onkyo or any of the other ventures they got into that sullied their core business.  The Gibson name has heritage and will survive this mess, but their CEO is a complete idiot, who put them in this mess that they are in.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:18:28 (permalink)
Lots of threads around yesterday's events.  Not sure where to ask the question, but I was going to buy a new DAW machine this week and reinstall SPlat.  The servers are still on, so is this still doable?  I plan on keeping the machine off the Net so there (probably) won't be any authentication issues.  I'll still have to figure out how to access Native Access, etc.... 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:27:35 (permalink)
@june61944 don't worry about Native Access. You can just download your NI VSTs via the traditional method on NI's site. Look hard, because I remember having a hard time finding it on their site. I had disconnected my computer from the internet when I had a massive f*ck up with Sonar after a Windows update, so I didn't use Native Access, I found a way to download the files on another computer and put them on a thumbdrive. TL;DR just don't worry. Theres a way to get NI stuff to work on an offline PC.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:34:18 (permalink)
I couldn't edit Noel's post to add this, but... 
 
Update: 11/22 Stores closed and you will no longer be able to purchase Cakewalk products.
 
Very sorry.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:42:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dazarz 2017/11/23 12:50:05
What about the monthly subscription?
I left 1 payment before full purchase!
If this is no longer possible, the store is closed, payments are not accepted, does this mean that after a while my version of Platinum will go into Demo mode and die in 30 days?
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:44:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby manfromplanetx 2017/11/23 13:59:02
To me, this is nothing more than how Harvard and Yale business school and law school graduates are killing music in America.  They started with the record companies.  Those ignorant business school and law school graduates new nothing about what was good music.  They had tin ears, but they knew about money or at least thought that they knew what they though which music would make a profit.  I know for a fact that they had no idea who Mozart, Beethoven, Pat Metheny, Phillip Glass, Yes, Gentle Giant or Spock's Beard were.  What they knew was back then, if they got drunk at a club in New York and got to abuse women, what made their pants want to dance.  They would not know an F sharpe from a G flat.  Yet they got to kill music in America because they got control over the board of directors.  Now their protege's are killing Sonar, because they in their wisdom, after seeing the rage at shows regarding Euro rack, have decided that the best thing to do is to go back to hardware, and produce things that run in 128 mB of memory in a black box, rather than support something that runs on a computer with 128 GB of memory because that is the trend.
 
What nobody has told them yet, is while they are drunk or taking ecstasy at the theater and enjoying life, the film composers who made the music and soundtracks that they so loved while they were hammered were made on computers with  software that they are killing because they are totally ignorant.  They will wake up from their high one day and say to themselves "Why does this music suck?"  Some wise guru may hear them and say to them "It is because you killed all of the cool music tools in your ignorance."
 
I heard this story once.  A comedian was appearing in an oppressed country once.  After the show, a guy says to the comedian  "You are funny as all get out.  Why is there no person in my country that is so funny?"  The comedian says "That is because your government killed all of the funny people."
 
OK, Gibson is not killing musicians, so I am overreacting, but they are killing dreams.  But it is not the original people at Gibson, who may still be there, who are causing this.  Those people are still artists at making Les Pauls.  It is those ignorant people who are Harvard graduates who have control over the Gibson board of directors who are causing this to happen to all of us.
 
As Johnny Carson, portraying Carnac the Magnificent once said, I say to the Gibson board of directors "May the fleas of a thousand camels make a nest in your groin area."
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:54:14 (permalink)
I say we burn down Harvard!

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 04:58:02 (permalink)
StaringIntoNothing...it's deviation on the thread, but there is definite trend supporting what you've just described. Just look at the demonetization of YouTube. Look at using internet patrons as commodities a la Google and Facebook. Greed has overtaken in the business landscape (not actual service or a quality product), and what follows is the public. The public doesn't know any better and/or are too lazy to vote for who can change this.
 
The way Gibson gets this way is because they live off of a legacy of great instruments. "Only a Gibson is good enough" So they (the royal "they") are abusing that legacy to get a few people rich and then f*ck off somewhere else while the company dies.
 
You are wrong to think Harvard and Yale students give two S*its about music. They will never wake up and say anything about how music sucks. Everything else is taken care of for them, so why should they have emotion?  That's what music is about. Emotions. The people that are given everything have no emotion, because they don't experience loss and denial of what they want. The only emotion they have is greed, dude.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 05:08:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby burgerproduction 2017/11/23 09:03:00
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What about the monthly subscription?
I left 1 payment before full purchase!
If this is no longer possible, the store is closed, payments are not accepted, does this mean that after a while my version of Platinum will go into Demo mode and die in 30 days?

 
I checked your account.  I think you're all set and shouldn't be in demo mode.  





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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 05:12:10 (permalink)
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What about the monthly subscription?
I left 1 payment before full purchase!
If this is no longer possible, the store is closed, payments are not accepted, does this mean that after a while my version of Platinum will go into Demo mode and die in 30 days?

 
I checked your account.  I think you're all set and shouldn't be in demo mode.  






Thank You!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 05:47:56 (permalink)
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What about the monthly subscription?
I left 1 payment before full purchase!
If this is no longer possible, the store is closed, payments are not accepted, does this mean that after a while my version of Platinum will go into Demo mode and die in 30 days?

 
I checked your account.  I think you're all set and shouldn't be in demo mode.  

 
Keith,
What are the chances of an official fix for any potential authorization problems in the future?
I'm a lifetimer and would like to be able to use 2017.01 until I can use anything anymore.
Thank you!



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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 05:54:27 (permalink)
I've been using Cakewalk in a serious way since 2003, and it's been really great. I don't think there's another company that knows more about how audio works in Windows and how to get the most out of recording in the Windows environment. 
 
Thank you, and I hope other software companies recognize the great work you've done here when they're recruiting.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 05:58:54 (permalink)
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What about the monthly subscription?
I left 1 payment before full purchase!
If this is no longer possible, the store is closed, payments are not accepted, does this mean that after a while my version of Platinum will go into Demo mode and die in 30 days?

 
I checked your account.  I think you're all set and shouldn't be in demo mode.  

 
Keith,
What are the chances of an official fix for any potential authorization problems in the future?
I'm a lifetimer and would like to be able to use 2017.01 until I can use anything anymore.
Thank you!




I'm a lifer too. The way I see it we purchased life time sonar which is listed as expiring in 2033 or something. So presumably unless they go out of business, Gibson will have to honor that by continuing to provide authorization until at least 2033 ;)

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 06:15:04 (permalink)
I too have been on cakewalk since the DOS days. I've purchased every update. 
Sonar has some unique and useful tools, some they've written and some they licensed. 
Here's hoping a group forms around Sonar just like the Ardour group. Users monthly subscriptions could keep the project going indefinitely without the overpriced, under-performing management team implemented by the investment bankers. 
I think they owe it to all of us to sell the code and it's rights to a group. 
Until then, I'm testing Ardour/Harrison Mixbus system. It's a little unintuitive in places but seems functional. Most of my plugins and virtual instruments work. 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 07:01:05 (permalink)
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 07:34:23 (permalink)
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I too have been on cakewalk since the DOS days. I've purchased every update. 
Sonar has some unique and useful tools, some they've written and some they licensed. 
Here's hoping a group forms around Sonar just like the Ardour group. Users monthly subscriptions could keep the project going indefinitely without the overpriced, under-performing management team implemented by the investment bankers. 
I think they owe it to all of us to sell the code and it's rights to a group. 
Until then, I'm testing Ardour/Harrison Mixbus system. It's a little unintuitive in places but seems functional. Most of my plugins and virtual instruments work. 


The Cakewalk Store IS closed. No more monthly revenue and there were never any monthly subscriptions. Only those who elected to pay monthly instead of in one go.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 08:07:52 (permalink)
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With other words: (I guess ...) Gibson has no money to pay Cakewalks developer team.
And I hope they will sell Cakewalk as fast as possible to a new company.


From what I've seen of Gibson and what they've done with previous acquisitions, it's more likely they will just bin the product rather than sell it on.  I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 08:19:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby randyehayes 2017/11/24 19:08:10
Please Gibson, sell cakewalk Sonar to someone who will keep developing it. It is my program of choice and I will be upset if I cannot continue to use it in future..
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 08:19:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby backwoods 2017/11/23 08:31:47
Please Gibson, sell cakewalk Sonar to someone who will keep developing it. It is my program of choice and I will be upset if I cannot continue to use it in future..
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 08:55:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby randyehayes 2017/11/24 19:08:30
This news makes me feel sad, angry, frustrated, and basically I still cannot believe it. How can anyone in their right mind kill software that is so top-of-the-bill, with so much more potential for further development...? I wish Noel Borthwick and everyone else at Cakewalk who put their hearts and souls into Sonar all the luck in the world. It must be heartbreaking for them too
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 09:40:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Del 2017/11/23 17:18:55
My thoughts.
 
1. Cakewalk is in financial trouble so they announce lifetime licenses to make fast bucks.
2. Gibson realises they wont make any future money since the majority of users is on lifetime license.
3. Slap together a new DAW using the core code of Sonar, make some visual changes, give it a new name and voila hey you can sell new licenses. Like heeey are you a previous user of Sonar. Then we got this FANTASTIC crossgrade upgrade you just cant miss!
4. The majority of the Sonar users get Studio One licenses instead.
5. New product dies.
 
No, I'm no genious and know nothing about anything so I'm of course totally wrong here but...
 
PS
I think we as consumers should be very suspicious of all companies who bombard us with offers. A lot of companies feel desperate. Just by the epic bombardment of offers I get from Izotope I really think that company is in financial trouble.
 
/M
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2017/11/23 10:00:34 (permalink)
Maybe they iZotope just have a good marketing department?
 
The kind of thing Cakewalk needed 
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