3. You can order the boxed discs from Sweetwater. Cakewalk typically charges S&H on physical shipments. Sweetwater doesn't.

TabSel
I at least get my English back up to grips arguing with you :)

Well if English isn't your native language, you do a lot better than some Americans.
 
I always loved giving seminars in Sweden and Denmark because of their command of English. I asked a friend from Denmark why Danes speak English so well. He said "Well, no one speaks Danish." 

I don't get this at all and I feel quite unhappy about it.
Firstly - I can't get X3 anymore? I was on X2 and was so disappointed how quickly X3 came out after shelling out for upgrades since 8.5 -> X1 -> X2. I thought I'd wait for X4.
But a) no X4, and b) an annual subscription? What the ????
And I don't even have the option of upgrading to X3 any more... it's annual membership or get lost???
What's with the stupid names - "Platinum"? What version is that?
I'm pretty unhappy about this. Might be time to learn a new product? Subscription model is @#$% - hell I'm a hobbyist that fires up my Sonar maybe twice a year for editing, and usually just to play my keyboard as a piano. Yes, waste of money for Producer but I wanted the best. But a subscription model? So offensive.

ontime
I don't get this at all and I feel quite unhappy about it.
Firstly - I can't get X3 anymore? I was on X2 and was so disappointed how quickly X3 came out after shelling out for upgrades since 8.5 -> X1 -> X2. I thought I'd wait for X4.
But a) no X4, and b) an annual subscription? What the ????
And I don't even have the option of upgrading to X3 any more... it's annual membership or get lost???
What's with the stupid names - "Platinum"? What version is that?
I'm pretty unhappy about this. Might be time to learn a new product? Subscription model is @#$% - hell I'm a hobbyist that fires up my Sonar maybe twice a year for editing, and usually just to play my keyboard as a piano. Yes, waste of money for Producer but I wanted the best. But a subscription model? So offensive.

There is no subscription. Its much as it always was. What CW is doing is trying to be faster with updates and patches. For the next 12 months you are entitled to all new additions and improvements CW rolls out. That is what the membership is all about. No subscription is used. When you buy Sonar you are offered a choice to pay the full amount for the upgrade as we have always done or pay monthly until its paid off.  Either way you get the membership.
 
As to the name its Sonar Platinum or Professional or Artist. Those are the versions. You can call it X4 if you like I may do that myself. Beside I used Logic Platinum 5 when it was cross platform and owned by Emagic. It didn't bother me that it was called that.
 
  

Geo524
 I won't do a subscription based DAW.  I really loved Sonar and will continue to work with X3 for as long as I can, but it looks like Reaper will become the new DAW for me. 

Geo524, what to you consider to be a subscription ?  It think the term is usually associated with programs that you continually pay to use and when you stop paying, you can longer use the product.

This is not the case with the new Sonar.  Once you've paid for it, you can use it forever.  After a year, you have to pay for updates, but that's the way it's always been with most programs.
 
It may be worth your while to read a few pages of this thread as all the details are gone over in depth.
 

No need to be connected to the internet.
 
If you are connected to the internet here is the auth process http://youtu.be/oG62qz0_q88
If not, here is the auth process http://youtu.be/roIgly_GjoI
 
Or you can read about it here http://www.cakewalk.com/D...=Introduction.28.html#

watercourse
I have a question regarding ProChannel modules.  I apologize if this was already asked and answered.  I searched the thread and wasn't able to find my specific question.  I currently have X3 Producer and am considering switching to the new Professional version (not Platinum).  I understand that any separately purchased PC modules will show up in Professional, but what about PC modules included with X3 Producer that are not purchased separately and also not included in the default Professional version? I'm specifically referring to Breverb Sonar, PC76, PC4k bus compressor, Console Emulator, Tape Emulator and Tape Saturation.  Since I 'own' these from X3 Producer, will they still be available to me if I switch to Professional?  And, if I do get access to these modules within Professional, what is required to activate them? Does X3 need to be installed on the machine or does activation happen through the command center, etc.?
 
Thanks in advance!

Hi Watercourse,
 
Yes all your existing ProChannel plugins will work in SONAR Professional. You will also get the new REmatrix Solo.

ontime
I don't get this at all and I feel quite unhappy about it.
Firstly - I can't get X3 anymore? I was on X2 and was so disappointed how quickly X3 came out after shelling out for upgrades since 8.5 -> X1 -> X2. I thought I'd wait for X4.
But a) no X4, and b) an annual subscription? What the ????
And I don't even have the option of upgrading to X3 any more... it's annual membership or get lost???
What's with the stupid names - "Platinum"? What version is that?
I'm pretty unhappy about this. Might be time to learn a new product? Subscription model is @#$% - hell I'm a hobbyist that fires up my Sonar maybe twice a year for editing, and usually just to play my keyboard as a piano. Yes, waste of money for Producer but I wanted the best. But a subscription model? So offensive.

This is not a subscription model. Please read the FAQ:  http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Membership
 
SONAR X3 has been out for 15 months. You know eventually it will be updated, and it has with new version.
 
SONAR X3 = SONAR Artist
SONAR X3 Studio = SONAR Professional
SONAR X3 Produer = SONAR Platinum
 
If you want to buy an upgrade, our friends at GC still have it: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Cakewalk-SONAR-X3-Producer-Upgrade-from-SONAR-X2-Producer-Software-Download-109841619-i3455813.gc
 
Lastly, this new model should work out nicely for you if you think about it. You never have to worry if buy a version only to have a newer one come out the next day. You could go buy X3 somewhere but let me ask you why you would do that? If you buy say SONAR Platinum for the same price of $149, you will get:

• Everything in SONAR X3
• Everything announced in SONAR Platinum
• Plus 12 more months of new features and more

And you will own everything you receive. So explain to me how X3 is better? Maybe you can make me understand that logic.

Thanks.

No date certain have been given. There is a post early in this thread indicating it may go through February.
 

You guys answering all these redundant questions.......really have a lot of patience.... :) .  Good job...!

jgarland
I just purchased the Platinum upgrade from JRRshop for 126.65. When Sonar Platinum is released I will own the software plus any upcoming updates & bug fixes for the next year.
 
I previously purchased Sonar X3 in September 2013, and received updates & bug fixes thru the release of X3e, which came out in April of 2014 (I think). There have been no new updates since the X3e patch.
 
The only difference I see is the fact that now Cakewalk will in effect Finance the purchase for a year for those who chose to do so.
 
In the words of Aaron Rogers...everybody relax. 

I just went there and Sonar Platinum upgrade is 199.00 from Any Sonar Producer.
How did you pull that (126.65) off?
 
:Ron

Teds_Studio
You guys answering all these redundant questions.......really have a lot of patience.... :) .  Good job...!

Well, I do work in the Department of Redundancy Department.

ontime
I don't get this at all and I feel quite unhappy about it.
Firstly - I can't get X3 anymore? I was on X2 and was so disappointed how quickly X3 came out after shelling out for upgrades since 8.5 -> X1 -> X2. I thought I'd wait for X4.
But a) no X4, and b) an annual subscription? What the ????
And I don't even have the option of upgrading to X3 any more... it's annual membership or get lost???
What's with the stupid names - "Platinum"? What version is that?
I'm pretty unhappy about this. Might be time to learn a new product? Subscription model is @#$% - hell I'm a hobbyist that fires up my Sonar maybe twice a year for editing, and usually just to play my keyboard as a piano. Yes, waste of money for Producer but I wanted the best. But a subscription model? So offensive.

You do realize that X3 would have been unavailable  for purchase from Cakewalk even if they went to the traditional "X4" under the old model? Waiting to upgrade always holds the risk of missing a version.  It also saddens me that after 37 pages, people are still either unwilling to read or unable to comprehend that they still have the option to outright buy the upgrade . So most of your  complaint is based on inaccurate information, distortions  and projection of what you think may happen down the line.

I for one will not be upgrading until Cakewalk adds back in what they took out of Sonar X2.
 
They removed the ability to automatically color your clip background colors.  I barely can see the dark grey clips on the dark grey background.
 
I know you can change them in the Inspector, but:  A) you have to do it manually for each track, B) record more clips or bounce the clips, and the colors revert.  

Wouldn't it make more sense to have them automatically colored by track # (same as how they do it for the midi note/audio waveform colors?)
 
It's like they literally sucked that feature out of Sonar X3.   

For now, I am using Duckbar, but Panu said that he won't even be touching the new Sonar until at least the summer, so because Cakewalk likes to REMOVE options from their software, they lose out on my money.
 
Seems like such a little detail, but it's not.  After a long time working on the DAW, the grey on grey hurts my eyes and causes me to lose focus of what's going on.   Especially working with MIDI since the notes are small.   What is easier to look at:
 
THIS?
 

 
 
OR THIS?


 
 
So until Cakewalk puts this ability back into the product - which THEY removed, I will be keeping my money.
 
-Alewgro