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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 15:28:16
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I wish we had more time for the $149 promo subscription to move from X3 to Platinum. It is almost February and Platinum has not been released to the general Sonar base.
Can an official Cakewalk representative PLEASE answer this question. It has been asked numerous times and I am not aware that it has been answered. In one case, the statement was made that Cakewalk would not take our money until the product was available, but that seems to not be true. Specifically, How long will the $149 upgrade price be available? It seems to me that considering the implications of this new program, Cakewalk owed its users a reasonable opportunity to evaluate the demo version of Platinum before making the commitment. I'd like to think the offer will be good at least 30 days from the point that the demo can be installed.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 15:29:35
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To me, that's worth my $149 now. It's up to Cakewalk to ensure that it's worth my $199 this time next year.
From the "Members are also entitled to free technical support and discounted Membership renewals." quote I suspect the renewal will be more like $149 I've already upgraded for $125 to platinum at JRRShop, but for the others it would be nice if they set a more precise date for the end of the $149 offer though rather than the vague "possibly into February"
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 15:33:35
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cparmerlee
lludwick@nyc.rr.com
I wish we had more time for the $149 promo subscription to move from X3 to Platinum. It is almost February and Platinum has not been released to the general Sonar base.
Can an official Cakewalk representative PLEASE answer this question. It has been asked numerous times and I am not aware that it has been answered. In one case, the statement was made that Cakewalk would not take our money until the product was available, but that seems to not be true.
Specifically, How long will the $149 upgrade price be available?
see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3145090Andrew's answers are embedded in the quoted bit.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 15:36:02
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lludwick@nyc.rr.com
I wish we had more time for the $149 promo subscription to move from X3 to Platinum. It is almost February and Platinum has not been released to the general Sonar base.
Can an official Cakewalk representative PLEASE answer this question. It has been asked numerous times and I am not aware that it has been answered. In one case, the statement was made that Cakewalk would not take our money until the product was available, but that seems to not be true.
Specifically, How long will the $149 upgrade price be available?
see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3145090
Andrew's answers are embedded in the quoted bit.
Thank you for that reference. However <<At least through January and probably February>>
isn't an answer.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 15:41:30
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It would appear they have not fixed the date. I m sure you can recall previous Cakewalk promotions with soft cutoff dates.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 16:25:32
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scook
It would appear they have not fixed the date. I m sure you can recall previous Cakewalk promotions with soft cutoff dates.
Yes, but in all those cases, the customer knew what he was buying. In this case, you are buying a promise of some additional, unspecified features during the year, and can't even demo the features that been announced. I'm not trying to be overly dramatic because I'll probably buy the upgrade, but I don't want to mess with this until everything is shipping and I have a break in my projects in about 10 days. That will probably still be in January, so it should work out, but considering the magnitude of this policy change, it would be nice if the company would have clearer answers.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 16:29:44
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I believe there is plenty of information about what is included with the purchase. I would imagine Cakewalk will provide at least one notice when the promo will end, closer to the date. They may not have a date certain just yet. At least, that is what is looks like based on the information we have at the moment.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 17:05:33
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Kylotan
to reel people in, but for those of us already reeled in and flapping about on the boat
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 17:14:51
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mudgel
The reality is that however you purchase now you are getting the last years worth of development for your money.
The best statement of clarity so far. Upgrading now pays for all the work already performed for the new version. And therefore anything that comes next is FREE icing on the cake. Or: I get the current version for free, and for less than 67 cents per day, I get 12 months of new stuff. To those of you pissed off cuz you buy at the last minute at a steep discount:::: You have saved money for years. And even at the new rate you have still paid less over the time you have used Sonar. But now, you get to pay like the rest of us. This will mean more money for CW to use to hire people to add stuff, and respond quicker to support requests. EVERYBODY involved gets to have more fun with less stress for a WAY REASONABLE cost.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 17:25:13
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Almost 10 years ago I sent a message to the CW managers that I wanted them to charge me $50 per quarter for continuous support.
They were not ready to do so.
I have been complaining for years that Sonar was way too inexpensive.
Finally we get a great offer that covers all the bits needed to provide us with a great program for essentially no cost.
Most users will spend more on soda and coffee in a month than they will on the yearly Sonar upgrade. And they derive far more happiness from Sonar.
Many of the same users will use Sonar for more hours in a week than they use their car. And they will spend far more on the car in a month than the yearly price of Sonar.
I bet it is mostly these same people that find spending LESS THAN 67 CENTS PER DAY FOR THE NEW PROGRAM AND A YEAR's WORTH OF EXTRAS is somehow objectionable.
And we do not know yet all of the wonderful changes that await us.
Can I get an "AMEN!"
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 18:40:54
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This entire thread proves the axiom that I do not want to join any organization that would have me as a member.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 18:45:29
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☄ Helpfulby Del 2015/01/19 11:33:28
nzpaul
From the "Members are also entitled to free technical support and discounted Membership renewals." quote I suspect the renewal will be more like $149
Well "I don't have facts to back me up," but my interpretation was there would be occasional specials to incentivize people to renew. Or maybe you'd get a special rate if you renewed early. I honestly don't know. Could take one of many forms.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 19:45:50
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2015/01/19 10:02:48
We have gotten more info about the contents of this release than any other in memory.
There are videos on each of the new features and you have access to the online help file which gives all the details about some of the little less spectacular updates.
Go have a look at the Cakewalk website. It's been completely revamped and has a modern intuitive feel to it.
Anyone saying they have no idea what they're getting hasn't looked. The number of links that the bakers and others have dropped into threads is enormous. I wonder If some folks really follow them and learn.
And having had a look now at the offering, this would be one of tHe first Sonars that I could take into production nearly straight away. Usually I quarantine a new version until I'm completely satisfied it's OK. Based on the stability of X3e and what I've seen so far I'm very happy.
There have been a few issue mentioned but none of them are showstoppers nor are they yet confirmed bugs and I have all the same software and hardware mentioned and am not having those problems.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 20:36:32
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mudgel
We have gotten more info about the contents of this release than any other in memory.
There are videos on each of the new features and you have access to the online help file which gives all the details about some of the little less spectacular updates.
Go have a look at the Cakewalk website. It's been completely revamped and has a modern intuitive feel to it.
Anyone saying they have no idea what they're getting hasn't looked. The number of links that the bakers and others have dropped into threads is enormous. I wonder If some folks really follow them and learn.
And having had a look now at the offering, this would be one of tHe first Sonars that I could take into production nearly straight away. Usually I quarantine a new version until I'm completely satisfied it's OK. Based on the stability of X3e and what I've seen so far I'm very happy.
There have been a few issue mentioned but none of them are showstoppers nor are they yet confirmed bugs and I have all the same software and hardware mentioned and am not having those problems.
Another person suckered in by Cakewalk's cruel web of lies and deceit, fueled by hatred and contempt for its customers.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 20:56:25
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Yes they are doing such a terrible job. I keep saying that to myself... Terrible! Oh no credit card is coming out must resist...! Terrible I say! Terrible terrible terrible... Must keep saying terrible..
OK resisted today, I'm find another way to distract myself from buying it tomorrow.. I feel so alone...
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 22:46:55
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I just gave us a plug on GS. Not much being said over there, those people are pretty entrenched with their Macs and $1,000 DAW's. This guy is in the market for an easy to learn daw, I baited the hook for you. https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/980881-easiest-learn-2015-a.html#post10732746 Wow 40 pages and still going strong, will the hosts move this to the coffee house when the smoke clears? Has anyone read all 40 pages? I read the first 14 originally and now I only read the last page each day. If we compiled all the similar threads we'd be over 100 pages I think.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 23:20:14
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Another person suckered in by Cakewalk's cruel web of lies and deceit, fueled by hatred and contempt for its customers.
Oh, the humanity! 
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/18 23:27:34
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OK resisted today, I'm find another way to distract myself from buying it tomorrow.. I feel so alone...
Maybe we need to form a support group for those who feel their resistance is breaking down. :) "Hi. My name's Alex, and --- uh -- this is really hard -- OK, I have a DAW problem, alright?" "Let it all out Alex. We're here for you."
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 00:13:56
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Earwax
I'm obviously not asking Cakewalk to publish a list of bugs that exist in the new version (unless, of course, they can). I'm asking them to address improvements made to core functions shared between the old and new versions of the software. I mean, c'mon! They've got to know what they improved! Right?? It is generally a company's major sales technique for anything "new and improved" to tell the public...well...what is new and improved!! I got the new. What's the improved?
The link was to a bug fix list for X3/X3a and X3b, so it covered the ones from X2 to X3. Presumably the one for Platinum will include the ones from X3 to Platinum. It seems one bug that mattered to me is you can now bounce with MIDI FX in real time as well as fast bounce mode. Also...
I CAN PASTE BUS AUTOMATION FROM ONE BUS TO ANOTHER! FROM A BUS TO A TRACK! FROM A TRACK TO A BUS!!
I guess someone was listening to Stickman 
Actually it seems like automation has a bunch of clean-ups. Maybe that happened in the process of doing Mix Recall.
There are plenty of bug fixes across multiple areas of the app. We fix bugs in parallel with development of new features and some commonly reported bugs get highlighted. For example a ton of editing and automation bugs got addressed as a result of mix recall since it serves as a giant macro for automating a large number of operations on track parameters and envelopes.
We will publish a list of known fixes when we get some bandwidth to sort through the database and separate stuff that was fixed as part of development vs older preexisting issues. Right now everyone is too busy with the immediate release to do that.
Thanks Noel. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 00:35:44
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NICE OPTION FOR THE USERS. [HIRE-PURCHASE]
I took about an hour to read the posts. I would like to mention the following:
I. if user upgrades on monthly payment basis and later decides to discontinue, sonar should not go to demo mode rather to the point from where it was upgraded.
ii. there should be a brief notification on the upcoming planed additions/modifications so that users can contribute their ideas before it is done.
iii. Melodyne with pitch shift and time shift is not at all sufficient for serious users. Essentials to be upgraded. As if user has to buy Melodyne separately then inclusion of Melodyne is not any benefit [ARA certainly is]
iv. Cakewalk can have a CAL community.
Now my wish :
I. A chord track input Text entry, output MIDI (defined channel), Automation Lanes - Inversion, Octave, Hold, Transpose... as of now.
ii. Input list of a MIDI Track to have another option as Track. So Midi data can be send from one track to another MIDI track.
iii. Pattern Library (MIDI) which can be imported to Arpeggiator for MIDI Track.
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Cakewalk is always strong in MIDI it can be stronger.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 03:12:08
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1. I'm on the payment plan. If I stop after 2 months why should I be entitled to a full program. On the other hand if I want to get around that just pay annual instead of monthly.
2. There are already notification of several upcoming features but I'll let you search for them. There are 2 already defined and a 3rd listed as a surprise
3. Melodyne Essentials is a basic taster. You want more feature,go upgrade. Celemony offered Sonar users a 50% discount on updating to editor.
4. Put in a Feature requests. Maybe we could have a section on the forum where Cal could be discussed. I think you may find a bit of support for it. I would.
Put your wishes into feature requests. Writing it here will only prompt discussion by forum members not Cakewalk. For that, put in featur requests.
Hope all that helps.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 04:29:34
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YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson To those of you pissed off cuz you buy at the last minute at a steep discount::::... But now, you get to pay like the rest of us.Do you understand that you continuously distract people from new SONAR, trigger up to 50% of emotional statements in this thread and do that without any arguments === Troll.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 04:34:28
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To those of you pissed off cuz you buy at the last minute at a steep discount::::
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But now, you get to pay like the rest of us.
Do you understand that you continuously distract people from new SONAR, trigger up to 50% of emotional statements in this thread and do that without any arguments === Troll. I think you are the one who misunderstands. he has been supportive all along and you've taken two statements out of their context which is a bit rude.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
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Well, may be I misunderstand... But I was very emotional myself right at the beginning, reading his early posts. I have cooled down after reading FAQ, other posts, etc. so I could understand real situation better. In case I am alone with that, I am ready to apologize. EDIT. After reading his later posts, no, I am not going to apologize. I do not like trolls.
post edited by azslow3 - 2015/01/19 16:25:39
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 06:05:09
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☄ Helpfulby Del 2015/01/19 11:41:31
That's OK Alexzy. It's been very frustrating with so much negative emotion being dropped here when it appears that Cakewalk have really been trying to do their best. And as far as I'm concerned they have succeeded.
There have been quite a few people who seem to have been hell bent on spreading disinformation about all that's happening. I hope it starts to quieter down and people focus more on the software again. All the best
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 09:15:22
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@mudgel
When I first saw this thread, it was the next morning after the announcement. There was already like 7-8 pages of posts. I realized something was going on so I followed the link Andrew provided with the intention of informing myself before I made a decision about this "New Version."
I then read all the info, watched most of videos, found all the answers to the questions I had except one. So I came back to this thread and started reading hoping to find someone asking the same question I had (off line registration). After about five pages of mostly misunderstanding of people who obviously didn't read all the info, I found my answer. The question was asked on the first or second page, but an answer wasn't found till the fifth page.
So Mike, I (like you) think CW provided enough info to answer most all questions had most people read all the info. I think they did a great job and their presence and continuous participation in this thread shows that they had a plan all along. They didn't just make it up the day before the announcement! Did they make some mistakes? Maybe a few, but nothing to really complain about!
I won't have the chance to use Sonar Platinum when it comes out. But I did get it. And my next days off will be centered around getting the new version installed and working.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 09:29:28
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cparmerlee
...but considering the magnitude of this policy change, it would be nice if the company would have clearer answers.
My "outside looking in" guess; they want to first see how the initial "lottery" folks make out before releasing to the general public. As mentioned above there are reports of issues with Kontakt and Melodyne, neither of which I've encountered so far myself, so that may be why the release date is a bit nebulous. Perhaps they are putting the new system to the test right out of the gate.
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michaelhanson
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
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I ran Platnum all weekend with out as much as a glitch....I'm very impressed. Great work, Cakewalk.
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benvenisti
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
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YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Almost 10 years ago I sent a message to the CW managers that I wanted them to charge me $50 per quarter for continuous support.
They were not ready to do so.
I have been complaining for years that Sonar was way too inexpensive.
Finally we get a great offer that covers all the bits needed to provide us with a great program for essentially no cost.
Most users will spend more on soda and coffee in a month than they will on the yearly Sonar upgrade. And they derive far more happiness from Sonar.
Many of the same users will use Sonar for more hours in a week than they use their car. And they will spend far more on the car in a month than the yearly price of Sonar.
I bet it is mostly these same people that find spending LESS THAN 67 CENTS PER DAY FOR THE NEW PROGRAM AND A YEAR's WORTH OF EXTRAS is somehow objectionable.
And we do not know yet all of the wonderful changes that await us.
Can I get an "AMEN!"
AMEN
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ralf
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/19 15:01:00
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What will be pricing to switch between versions? What will I have to pay if I get Professional now and decide to switch to Platinum later? Or in the other direction, will it be possible to switch from Platinum to Professional later?
I own X3 Producer, but for what I'm doing as a hobbyist it's a bit oversized. When going with Professional, I could keep all the Producer instruments and effects, I just would not get the new Platinum things like VocalSync and DrumReplacer, which for sure I don't need. I will loose only Pow-R dithering and QuadEQ fly-out, not sure if this is really worth $100 a year on the long term.
While I'm here, my opinion about the new membership system is rather neutral, after all it's not that a big change as it may seem. Upgrading from X3 to the new Sonar is pretty much the same as upgrading before, just with some unknown upcoming extras. But keeping membership after 12 months is different. It will be paying for something that is at least partly unknown, upcoming features will not be announced too long ahead. This requires more trust in the company from the customer than providing upgrades with known new features.
While this may be no big issue for professionals and enthusiasts, hobbyists like me probably may rather tend to give membership a break and only catch up with new features from time to time as they see fit. But then, this is not that much different than before again, where some people were upgrading immediately for each new release, and others were waiting for sales or skipping a few versions to save money. Customers still have the choice to pay full and have the most actual version, or to pay less and get new features later, maybe missing some extra content.
Overall, this is much better than a subscription system, but still a bit risky considering that customers will have to pay up front to renew membership with having only vague information about what they will get for their money. Except if they wait and only get a new membership when the already released new features are convincing enough.
Finally, I wonder what will be the higher discounts: the discount to keep customers staying a member, or those to convince them to return being a member? I guess both will happen. And will it be possible to renew or rather extend membership before it is expired when there is a special discount?
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