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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 10:39:32
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Pan65 1. If I pay the monthly fee for a full year I get to keep everything I received during the period, that much is clear. But lets say I keep paying for another six months, will I keep everything I downloaded during this period too or do I have to pay another full year to keep it?
No, you're current version reverts to demo mode, but you can roll back to the full version you owned at 12 months. You only get to keep what you buy during a 12 month period by paying up front, or paying 12 monthly payments. Pan65 2. Will this monthly payment system apply to other products too such as pro channel effects, softsynths etc?
This I don't know... Regards, Dan
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 10:40:42
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Pan65The biggest benefit is of course that you don't have to dig a deep hole in your wallet at once, and you get to keep the software after one year of payment any way.
This point is the EXACT reason I'm doing the monthly payment. I wonder, though, if after a few monthly payments we can choose the pay rest of the 12 months at once?
Yeah an early 'settlement' option would be cool
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 11:09:52
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wizard71
Vern C
Pan65The biggest benefit is of course that you don't have to dig a deep hole in your wallet at once, and you get to keep the software after one year of payment any way.
This point is the EXACT reason I'm doing the monthly payment. I wonder, though, if after a few monthly payments we can choose the pay rest of the 12 months at once?
Yeah an early 'settlement' option would be cool
Hi- I wondered about that, too. In: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3144986Andrew Rossa said:Honestly, that's not a path we want to manage. There is no way to make that really automated. We'd be managing a lot of SKUs and scenarios. I understand why you might want to do that and then hope you can go back to paying upfront. I think that's why we want to offer a demo on day 1 so people can have 30 days to try out some of the new features. -Susan
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:06:15
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Has there been any update on the official release date?
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:12:21
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Don't think so Drew, as far as i can make out, the 21st was just their best guess. Oooh the anticipation....
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:15:30
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wizard71 Don't think so Drew, as far as i can make out, the 21st was just their best guess. Oooh the anticipation....
Yeah, that was my understanding, but some people apparently took it as more. Personally I'm happy if they take a little extra time if it helps them get it right, but it'd be nice to know the rough time frame.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:22:24
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As impatient as I am, I'm with you here. Saying that, it seems a few stores are quoting the 21st so maybe it will be today. Given that the forum has gone 21st crazy, noone from cake has stepped in to say otherwise.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:26:07
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As I've never purchased software 'Pre-Release' before, this is a new experience.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:27:15
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wizard71 As impatient as I am, I'm with you here. Saying that, it seems a few stores are quoting the 21st so maybe it will be today. Given that the forum has gone 21st crazy, noone from cake has stepped in to say otherwise.
They're probably too busy baking. Or ironing...
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:30:44
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wizard71 Given that the forum has gone 21st crazy, noone from cake has stepped in to say otherwise.
Maybe their preparing it for release?
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:46:56
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wizard71 Given that the forum has gone 21st crazy, noone from cake has stepped in to say otherwise.
Maybe their preparing it for release?
My understanding is the lottery winners used the same mechanism we all will use , so in a sense, UNLESS there were some beta bugs revealed the release is in the chute already.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 12:59:38
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Hi There So will the Mix re call module will save settings of 3rd party plug ins also ??? Thanks
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 13:14:46
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musicman100 My understanding is the lottery winners used the same mechanism we all will use , so in a sense, UNLESS there were some beta bugs revealed the release is in the chute already.
I know Craig said they put out the wrong versions of his amp sims in the pre-release.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 13:19:53
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Many probably saw this, but Andrew said this in another thread: It's almost certainly coming today. There will also be an update to it to fix a couple of issues. Customers who already purchased will also have an update available in Command Center. Stay tuned. It won't be much longer.
http://forum.cakewalk.com...-m3153752.aspx#3153926
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 13:56:20
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Pan65 1. If I pay the monthly fee for a full year I get to keep everything I received during the period, that much is clear. But lets say I keep paying for another six months, will I keep everything I downloaded during this period too or do I have to pay another full year to keep it?
No, you're current version reverts to demo mode, but you can roll back to the full version you owned at 12 months. You only get to keep what you buy during a 12 month period by paying up front, or paying 12 monthly payments.
Can you point on some reply from CW about that? Because that is not logical. If you continuously pay 18 months, that imply you have payed last 12 month before the day you stop the membership. So, according to the defined rules, you can keep everything you have. Why someone who will start to pay in June this year should be able to keep more then someone who started to pay this January, in case they both stop next June? If I get it right, either in case you have paid up front or 12 month continuously, you get "not expiring" version with whatever updates you download till the end of your membership.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:28:37
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I'm pretty sure the monthly option works in 12 month intervals and not at any random month in between that a person decides to leave the program.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:30:14
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dcumpian
Pan65 1. If I pay the monthly fee for a full year I get to keep everything I received during the period, that much is clear. But lets say I keep paying for another six months, will I keep everything I downloaded during this period too or do I have to pay another full year to keep it?
No, you're current version reverts to demo mode, but you can roll back to the full version you owned at 12 months. You only get to keep what you buy during a 12 month period by paying up front, or paying 12 monthly payments.
Can you point on some reply from CW about that? Because that is not logical. If you continuously pay 18 months, that imply you have payed last 12 month before the day you stop the membership. So, according to the defined rules, you can keep everything you have. Why someone who will start to pay in June this year should be able to keep more then someone who started to pay this January, in case they both stop next June? If I get it right, either in case you have paid up front or 12 month continuously, you get "not expiring" version with whatever updates you download till the end of your membership.
See the FAQ: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Membership Regards, Dan
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:35:45
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:41:50
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:45:10
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dcumpian See the FAQ: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Membership
As far as I can see, that doesn't say anything about the "discontinue membership after 18 consecutive months" scenario. Not that it matters until next year sometime...
The simple answer has always been. Pay for 12 months (monthly or up front) and you have an unlocked working version. Pay monthly < 12 and you revert to demo mode. In an 18 month pay plan you already have paid for 12 months. You have that unlocked working version (as of the 12th month). You are effectively now (month 13) on a new payment plan and stop at 6 months. Implied in the only pay 6 moths scenario is you revert to demo mode. BUT, since you have an unlocked workable version (albeit 6 months old) you should and would revert to that. Simples.
What Bapu said. It's also explained (over and over again) in various posts throughout this 44 page (and counting) thread. Regards, Dan
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:49:33
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stevec I'm pretty sure the monthly option works in 12 month intervals and not at any random month in between that a person decides to leave the program.
Monthly option should obviously work in 1 month interval, otherwise it should be called "yearly" option And in case I pay 18 month, that means I have payed last 12 months as well. There is no info we should start in January, so it should work starting from random month as well. drewfx1
dcumpian See the FAQ: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Membership
As far as I can see, that doesn't say anything about the "discontinue membership after 18 consecutive months" scenario.
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/01/22 01:55:26
As Dan and Bapu say, you get to keep what you have at the 18 month. But if you come back, it starts over.
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/01/21 14:58:49
What Bapu said. It's also explained (over and over again) in various posts throughout this 44 page (and counting) thread. Regards, Dan
If someone from Cake said that, I have not seen it. And if they did it that way, would it not severely encourage us to all let our membership lapse between the end of 12 months and whenever the next really desirable release came?
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:51:28
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Grem As Dan and Bapu say, you get to keep what you have at the 18 month.
But that's not what they said.
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2015/01/21 14:54:25
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bapu In an 18 month pay plan you already have paid for 12 months. You have that unlocked working version (as of the 12th month). You are effectively now (month 13) on a new payment plan and stop at 6 months. Implied in the only pay 6 moths scenario is you revert to demo mode. BUT, since you have an unlocked workable version (albeit 6 months old) you should and would revert to that. Simples.
So, once again: I start pay monthly NOW, and you start to pay monthly 6 month later. We both stop in 18 months from now. By your "simple" logic, you are allowed to keep the latest version (you will just finish your 12 month cycle) while I will be reverted to the old version. ???
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:54:30
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How about a friendly ground rule: If someone here is going to speak for Cakewalk, either find an exact quote from the Bakers or don't purport to speak for them.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:54:38
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Yes it is. Look for it. I'm not.
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Re: Introducing the new SONAR: New lineup, new features, plus membership
2015/01/21 14:56:58
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Even more... if I stop after 5 month and restart one month later, I am able too keep the latest version. But without one month "skip", I am not
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2015/01/21 14:57:26
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And I never said I'm speaking for anyone. I know what I read.
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