Those of us who have been Cakewalk users for going 20 years understand how great this deal is. Cakewalk are banking on turning more JJC users into long term customers and not the fair weather ones who will go crying off the Steinberg or throw their toys out of the pram. Subscription is the new model as far as creative products is concerned. The price point is low enough for people to take a punt and you will get new features as often as you used to and then some. I am getting used to the new features and of course thankfully it's not overwhelming us with things. Well done Cakewalk.

Sorry for the reply 
Another one  --"Sonar" its an new version or just Big Update
I must Do an clean setup ?
 
Got Sonar X3e !
 

Karyn

kenny@vhprecords.com
Those of us who have been Cakewalk users for going 20 years understand how great this deal is. Cakewalk are banking on turning more JJC users into long term customers and not the fair weather ones who will go crying off the Steinberg or throw their toys out of the pram. Subscription is the new model as far as creative products is concerned. The price point is low enough for people to take a punt and you will get new features as often as you used to and then some. I am getting used to the new features and of course thankfully it's not overwhelming us with things. Well done Cakewalk.

Everybody...  Please stop calling it subscription.   It is not.

Indeed - it's "Rent to Buy" with "Evidence based Trialling".

Karyn
 
Everybody...  Please stop calling it subscription.   It is not.

That may be the case, but I doubt seriously if people will stop calling it that. It's just human nature! : )

Like all other Sonar installation, they are seperate from each other and completely independent of each other. Be careful though uninstalling earlier versions once you've installed this version. There is some file sharing going on and it's easy to lose some previous functionality.

You only need to install Sonar, Craig's fx chains. Install the help and tutorial material if you want them.

benvenisti
Had to set Audio Drivers. It picked up ASIO4All for my MOTU 828 Mk II but the ins and outs were not correct and the correct ones were greyed out. No big deal because every Xx (or Cantabile or Overture or Finale) I installed did the same thing. I just revert to  WDM and re-profile then set it back to ASO4All and all the ins and outs are selectable again.

Are you aware that there is (apparently) an ASIO driver for your interface ?  If so, you shouldn't be using ASIO4ALL with it.  From the manual :
 
"The 828mkII also includes a Windows ASIO driver for multi-channel compatibility with any audio application that supports ASIO drivers."
 

Grem

Karyn
 
Everybody...  Please stop calling it subscription.   It is not.

That may be the case, but I doubt seriously if people will stop calling it that. It's just human nature! : )

You *might* get people to call the payments "membership dues"  ;)

Karyn
Everybody...  Please stop calling it subscription.   It is not.

In case someone pay for less then 12 months monthly, the result is the same as when it is subscription.
 
So, I think it is reasonable to distinguish:

• up front payment - you buy current version plus support and updates next 12 month
• you pay 12+ monthly - you buy membership for the period you pay (and can keep everything you have at the end, so that is NOT subscription
• you pay <12 monthly - you buy subscription, you can use the product when you pay and you get nothing once you no longer pay

So, the subscription is now POSSIBLE. But that is not the only option.

Paul P

benvenisti
Had to set Audio Drivers. It picked up ASIO4All for my MOTU 828 Mk II but the ins and outs were not correct and the correct ones were greyed out. No big deal because every Xx (or Cantabile or Overture or Finale) I installed did the same thing. I just revert to  WDM and re-profile then set it back to ASO4All and all the ins and outs are selectable again.

Are you aware that there is (apparently) an ASIO driver for your interface ?  If so, you shouldn't be using ASIO4ALL with it.  From the manual :
 
"The 828mkII also includes a Windows ASIO driver for multi-channel compatibility with any audio application that supports ASIO drivers."

Thanks for that! True. The problem is that the MOTU ASIO driver simply will not deliver at anything less than 512 samples without some random pops and crackles, while I can get ASIO4All to run clean at 64 samples. I don't know what the issue is. I have the latest drivers. This has always been the case with the 828 Mk II as far as I can remember. I could be wrong as my main system has been SCOPE (with bulletproof ASIO) until I finally replaced my aging PC with a game spec laptop.  I might build a new desktop with PCI slots for all the Creamware cards (one of these days).  I just love SCOPE but building a machine to support it is not financially feasible now.  The laptop is great, especially live.  As far as the MOTU 828 Mk II is concerned I'm sure there is some low level driver issue with the ASIO and I really don't want to spend my life researching and experimenting to get it to work when I can get what I need from ASIO4all or even the WDM drivers and make music!
 
If anyone else has some ideas about the 828 MkII running with the native MOTU ASIO drivers Please PM as I'm definitely open to that. Just bear in mind that I've been through all the theories and Google stuff.

Hi there,
 
Ok - I'm all Platinumed-up, and it was a painless exercise, straight in!
However I do have an issue registering Dimension-Pro; when clicking on the register button (in the grey D-Pro pop up box) I'm taken to a page which says this product is already registered; If I enter the reg-code given in Command Centre, I get an "invalid code" message (and the serial number is different to that given in the D-Pro pop-up box).
 
This also happens back in the X3 set-up too.
 
Any thoughts?
Jerry
 
 

benvenisti
Thanks for that! True. The problem is that the MOTU ASIO driver simply will not deliver at anything less than 512 samples without some random pops and crackles, while I can get ASIO4All to run clean at 64 samples.

ASIO4All is just a wrapper around WDM to make it look like ASIO.  You might as well just use the WDM driver direct.
 
See :
MOTU 828 MKII - Anyone using it?
MOTU-ASIO or WDM
 
If you'd like further discussion, I guess it might be better to start a thread in the Hardware forum.

Thanks benvenisti, but it seems to have unregistered the X3 version of D-Pro, and the previous reg code now doesn't work
 
jerrydf
 

 
No problem. Sounds like you have an issue that needs to be escalated to support. Does Dimension show up in your Synth list? (insert menu or browser window)?

 
Yes it's there.  I can insert a D-Pro track (but can't play, obviously)
 
I have sent a feedback to Cakewalk
 
Cheers
Jerry

rainmaker1011
Hi there,
 
I went for monthly payments (Platinum) via PayPal, but could you shed some light on how are the future payments going to work? Is it going to be handled automatically through PayPal? In my PayPal account Cakewalk is not marked as "Subscription" but as "Credit card payment" and is also marked as Completed.
 
Thank you in advance.
 

I would like the answer to this too

1 - if purchased from Cakewalk store
5 - redemption of product code, if purchased from a retailer