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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/03 14:46:29
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hi, i dont rerecord and i dont use any external fx. i have a condenser mic that goes directly into the delta44 or the mobilepre (both maudio drivers). sonar records pretty easily everything i want. also midi-connected ext. synth that i want to recordlive - but the recording is late (just a few msec. but it is late. i have to slide the whole part a bit to the left. to put it in time.. i dont know. what do you all expenrience? try this with a MIDI synced Synth or rerecord a MIDI or audio clip into a new audio track (without bouncing) ahh, one more FF or FR: 2??. please let me press R and arm and record into different tracks while playback...
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/03 17:10:53
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ORIGINAL: planist
...also midi-connected ext. synth that i want to recordlive - but the recording is late (just a few msec. but it is late. i have to slide the whole part a bit to the left. to put it in time.. Ah, I see. You'll have two delays in that path. a) MIDI transmission (up to the production of audio)
b) Audio recording (the a-to-d conversion and on-card buffering) (a) will depend largely on the synth and MIDI port setup, and can really only be compensated for manually. Have a look at the section "Keeping The Beat" in this old article from MS - the rest of the article is out of date, but the maths gives you an idea of the scale involved... http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnargame/html/msdn_mlatency.asp . (b) should be compensated for if the driver supports it; there was some kind of problem with M-Audio's implementation of this IIRC - perhaps another M-Audio owner could chip in here. If you can use ASIO and reduce the buffer size to the minimum possible that may help. Did SampleSlide help by the way?
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/04 06:38:30
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i havent tried it yet...
thanks alot
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/07 17:22:04
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Due to the way ReWire has been implemented in Sonar, a maximum of 16 Reason MIDI outputs are available. This means that only the first 16 Reason devices - in the order they were created - will be available on Sonar's MIDI Output menu. would be good to be able to fix this limit to make more available. as it can be a real problem .Apparently not an issue in cubase (oh bugger...) 
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/08 12:33:07
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RJT - give us one key bindings. I want one hand on the mouse when I edit, try hitting ctrl/alt/F5 with your left hand when you are in a hurry. - different keyboard-shortcut-sets
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/10 13:55:33
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i just noticed, am i wrong or does the preview of audio only work with .WAV files? if yes, then: Feature Request: Please let me hear .mp3, .aiff, and other audio types! once more: implement the real automation of instruments. i want to "tweak the knobs" and not actually draw all these envelopes of the vstis - BUT at the same time i want to use the synth rack ;) Its all good
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/12 14:29:18
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200 and ??:
Quantization - Shortkuts:
E.G. in track view: Key 1-Whole, 2-Half, 3-Quarter, … or FREE assignable.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/12 22:39:55
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I don't know if these have been mentioned or not, but it'd be nice to have a "disable envelope" feature (without losing data), and the "extentions" of MIDI groove clips should be edit-linked.  Shayne
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/12 22:47:13
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I want one hand on the mouse when I edit, try hitting ctrl/alt/F5 with your left hand when you are in a hurry. yeah ! cheers .. OUCH .. my hand .. just tried it now ! i can reach the ctrl+alt+f5 but .. you should have said "Don't Try This At Home ! " :)
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/13 10:44:54
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Quantize should really go beyond 32nd triplets. Since tempo goes to 1000, why not bring quantize up to at least 64th notes... maybe even 256th notes. In cakewalk, you can actually use any quantize setting you want (it just takes a little math), the problem is you have to type in the tick values. Assuming your midi resolution is 960ppq a value of 60 ticks would be 1/64 quantizing. I agree though that cakewalk should probably put it in the presets since it has become so popular. default sequencer resolution= 960 ppq note value in this example = 1/64, inserted as (1 divided by 64) tick value = (sequencer resolution)*4*(note value)
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/14 10:39:19
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Quantize should really go beyond 32nd triplets. Since tempo goes to 1000, why not bring quantize up to at least 64th notes... maybe even 256th notes. i just made a song with BPM 1000 and with a 64th bassline - you dont want to hear.  just joking. i agree with preset for 64th.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/14 11:41:24
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ORIGINAL: bubblefish
Due to the way ReWire has been implemented in Sonar, a maximum of 16 Reason MIDI outputs are available. This means that only the first 16 Reason devices - in the order they were created - will be available on Sonar's MIDI Output menu.
would be good to be able to fix this limit to make more available. as it can be a real problem .Apparently not an issue in cubase (oh bugger...)
I was just going to put this! This is HUGE to me. Full 64-channel support of the Rewire spec.
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/17 10:19:51
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when exporting i want to put some info into the file within sonar. not afterwards. wav/mp3: name, year, etc..
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/19 05:34:15
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Logic, SX, PT , Reason Users , ... !! Lately there are more and more threads regarding missing features. We compiled already alot. But since i am using Sonar i merely have an idea what the others sequencers can do. And what they offer i want to see implemented in sonar in the next version or update or patch or something .. So if you have any new ones post these features.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/21 11:40:52
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Finally, there are a few people from (what i understand) who have the same Recording-Issue that i mentioned in FEATURE REQUEST 10. Namely that the Recording with Sonar is NOT Sample Accuratea and depends (as far as we know) on the buffer settings or the driver or sonars audio engine..or all together. I also experienced this without knowing that this is a real Problem that probably everyone has -without noticing it. Please read this Thread and you will understand: http://www.cakewalk.com/forum/tm.asp?m=130201 I would like to hear something about that from Cakewalk as well. I dont recall that this issue was brought up or discussed often - but it seems to be a real problem!!
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/22 11:24:49
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2 added features by DJKEPI
1 - Slide by samples
2 - In the Audio section, have a setting that asks "Auto Slide Recorded audio by [ ] samples".
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/24 09:29:44
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FR: Snap Markers in Audio/MIDI Clips and Quantization: - Markers should be moveable with mouse - More than one snap marker per clip - Keybinding: insert snap marker
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/24 10:24:08
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i wonder if the admins are at least reading this thread.. it seems to me that im the only one left adding FRs. yes i know ... i always send them to the cakewalk FR site as well  ... oh well, i just continue posting and posting ...
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/27 16:58:00
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mcanicos added
Automatically detect and offset - hardware record latency
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/28 03:57:59
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even if all these features were added and it became so damn expensive, it would still pop up on kazaa or something like that which would still make it usable, but those features kick @ss though
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/29 11:25:53
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even if all these features were added and it became so damn expensive, it would still pop up on kazaa or something like that which would still make it usable, but those features kick @ss though there are many people in the forum right now, that request mostly all the above mentioned features. so cakewalk shoud be adding these features in the upcoming versions. wigthout them i wouldnt know why upgrade.. i like to pay for the sonar4 upgrade once again but only IF these features are implemented. i dont know about sonar popping up on kazaa - i want to support cakewalk.. ;) and i also think that adding these features does not make sonar more expensive than it already is.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/29 11:31:33
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ah.. once again.. i just thought about the missing 3.2 patch.. either the competition is too strong OR too weak for cakewalk. it seems to me that it is too weak (with logic stepping out of the XP arena) - otherwise they would make a patch for their customers that now dont have too much choice.. just a thought...
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/29 14:09:30
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I haven't read this whole thread, so perhaps some of this has been mentioned already, but here are features I would love to see in SONAR 4 (hopefully none of these are things that SONAR 3 already does that I just haven't figured out ):
* Better use of groups - grouping should be more flexible with better access to the parameters. It should be possible to group an entire channel strip so all controls respond together (all volumes together for that group of tracks, all pans together, etc.). It should also still be possible to group individual controls. Any group of controls or tracks should be name-able, instead of being limited to A-Z, so that it's easy to tell by looking at a group what it does. There should be a group view listing the groups by name, where clicking on the name of a group will highlight the applicable tracks or controls. Group view should also allow you to access the parameters for a group to review or change the assignments.
* Reintroduction of the metronome, with both MIDI and built-in audio outputs
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/29 16:57:45
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Reccord automation and notes at the same time would be useful, today when you're using a Midi controller to control a Sonitus Wha or something like that you have to record your track, then convert midi to shapes, then copy the shape and assign it to the wha parameter. Quite a bit heavy, ain't it?
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/31 06:46:08
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Reccord automation and notes at the same time would be useful...
Any group of controls or tracks should be name-able, instead of being limited to A-Z, so that it's easy to tell by looking at a group what it does. There should be a group view listing the groups by name, where clicking on the name of a group will highlight the applicable tracks or controls. Group view should also allow you to access the parameters for a group to review or change the assignments
still, some new thoughts! .. thanks guys
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/31 06:51:54
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Flexible IN/OUT Assigning: abbility to assign more than one track to busses, to outs, ins eg.: highlight tracks, right-click, assign to bus
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/31 09:27:54
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Input quantize.
Nudge.
Mute clip.
... just those three, and i'll be happy.
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RE: Sonar 4: Future Features
2004/05/31 12:31:42
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What I like about Pro tools is how you can use the "+" & " -" keys to nudge a track back and forward by a set of predetermined values like various note, and tick, and sample amounts.
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/31 12:32:46
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I feel you on the input quantize. I've been wanting that feature for a while now.
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/05/31 14:07:24
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abbility to assign more than one track to busses, to outs, ins
eg.: highlight tracks, right-click, assign to bus You can do this using the Track > Property > Output menu. It could be easier to get to though..!
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