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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/05/31 15:45:53
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A more powerful and simple drum machine DXi along the lines of ReDrum would be incredible!!
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/01 11:01:37
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1.Piano roll track focus... I cant believe you havent done this one already.
2. Solo groups......at a click of a button you can instantly mute solo or record groups.
3.Piano roll needs better grid lines. It is a mess as it is.
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planist
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/01 13:07:53
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You can do this using the Track > Property > Output menu. It could be easier to get to though..! thanks, ill try this out... at least it works then in one way..
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/01 13:10:14
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Piano roll track focus whats that?
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planist
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 14:34:36
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Looks like a source for already added Features New Sequencer: --> http://www.zynewave.com/ Foldertracks and free envelope drawing is already there, as far as i can see...  (this is no ad ... but as you know i want to improve sonar or at least talk about improvements..) Jeff
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JJ
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 14:56:08
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Piano roll track focus = simple highlighted line which moves along with your note vertically so that you can see what drum or key is what without having to chase it down on the left side of the piano roll. I think it's a necessity but what the heck do I know.
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 14:59:33
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Is it possible to write a script which allows you to save solo or mute groups in Sonar? This is my only major gripe with this sequencer. We should be able to save solo or mute groups so we dont have to solo every time we want to isolate certain tracks.
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moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 15:44:17
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I wish very much to see the keyboard in the piano roll view displayed as one would see it in reality. It makes perfect sense. That the transport would then scroll vertically is absolutely fine.
Several pianists have commented how weird it is to have to view the keyboard sideways which is totally unnatural and very tiring to work with. I doubt that guitarists would put up with "fret view" being cock-eyed!
Thanks,
Moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 15:46:21
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Several pianists have commented how weird it is to have to view the keyboard sideways which is totally unnatural and very tiring to work with. I doubt that guitarists would put up with "fret view" being cock-eyed! That may be true, but the more natural way to draw with a mouse on screen is side-to-side.
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moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 15:57:29
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That may be true, but the more natural way to draw with a mouse on screen is side-to-side. Not when you're head has been leaning painfully on your shoulder for too long it isn't! Seriously, it's like being forced to read a book sideways; one simply shouldn't have to! Moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/02 17:22:49
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But a piano keyboard is horribly unnatural in itself (just historically convenient): there is an implied difference between naturals and sharps/flats which doesn't actually exist in a mean tempered key. Given everything else we do (in the west) has time-changes flowing left to right, it makes far more sense for time to be marked out horizontally and the other dimension (pitch) to be marked out vertically, as it is now.
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planist
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 11:36:36
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simpler way to create custom vst fx and i menu..
from the sonar interface or like the adapter outside, maybe from within the adapter..
jeff
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RickH
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 14:19:11
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ORIGINAL: moniker
Several pianists have commented how weird it is to have to view the keyboard sideways which is totally unnatural and very tiring to work with. I doubt that guitarists would put up with "fret view" being cock-eyed!
I'm a keyboardist and have no trouble with it being vertical. It's much easier to see the timing the way it is (for westerners, anyway)... we tend to associate time from left to right. Every other view also associates time from left to right (track, notation) with the exception of the event view. R. ==
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moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 20:23:09
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Rick, I'm genuinely impressed and pleased that you are mentally adept enough to adapt to working with a cock-eyed representation of the keyboard. I find it unnatural and unnecessary. Perhaps the solution would be the provision of a choice of views? Ideal!
Playing and viewing the keyboard is a left - right experience. Timing and transport is more easily viewed vertically than a keyboard is experienced sideways imho.
Moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 20:28:52
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Yes, choice. The left-right dimension provides more control and it's easier to visualise -- sometimes you need that for time, sometimes for notes.
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moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 20:43:00
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 20:51:03
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ORIGINAL: moniker
It's about shapes.
Moniker
moniker@southwestjazz.co.uk
I totally agree -- spoken like a true piano player -- playing the piano, harmony is all about shapes -- when the keyboard is 90 degrees out of kilter you can't see the shapes any more.
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moniker
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/04 20:57:49
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planist
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/07 05:33:58
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Looks like a source for already added Features
New Sequencer:
--> http://www.zynewave.com/ i looked at the demo and it seems to be a nice program but with still alot to do.. lets wait and see what happens to it. BUT there are some features that are worth to mention. i will add them as soon as i i spent some time with the seq.. Jeff what the hell is an envelope?? <G>
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RE: SONAR 4: Future Features
2004/06/07 06:48:48
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I have seen Podium as well and from what I have seen on their forums the developer is very much in contact with his users..to say the least... but sends will not be implemented for about 2 months. Almost there but a bit to go just yet...
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/07 11:22:29
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ORIGINAL: tommydee
Input quantize.
Nudge.
Mute clip.
... just those three, and i'll be happy.
and add group editing features. just those four, and i'm good.
great song + crap gear = great song crap song + great gear = crap song
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/07 11:45:51
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i looked at podium - first things..that mostly correspond to the already pointed out things: - top of track view has (like abl live) an overview over projects track view. - "plugin manager" very informative (even though its alittle bit too much ;) - good folder track interface (assigning controller, fx, etc .. to any track or making new ones - free drawing of controller - data with pencil tool and other geometric tools - more later... especially some new ideas i am just discovering jeff
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/10 07:33:57
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if you guys got some news just post ´em and i will add them to the list.now that we all know that well have to weit untill namm spring 2005 we got enough time to compile...  Jeff
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/14 06:24:24
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loki, im quoting you on this one: Gapless work flow.
This is a subtle one. Although Sonar can copy and paste while the song is playing the "now time line" is also the editing line. So to make all the edits you can do when stopped...You have to stop. Logic, Acid and Live dont have this problem. You press play, listen and edit. Only when you want to press stop, it stops. Not having to press stop because the program dictates you do so is a big thing for me and I suspect the reason why alot of people who make rythim based music like programs that dont force you to press stop. => 2 NOW LINES - one for editing, one for playback => 2+ Loop (Looppoints) to set in the same project
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/14 10:26:02
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Hello
I would like to be able to export parts from the playlist as separate files...
So, if I have several song I can export the whole bunch and have them automatically cut at the markerpositions (with the markername).
/Johan
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/17 03:58:15
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- more options/flexible within groove quantize/quantize..like realtime preview and changing parameters of quantized material
- why does moving of groove clips takes so long? theres is even a "clock" when moving them (also, of course, during playback)
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/18 04:57:05
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Phoenix:
I really would like to see Sonar add an audio latency slider option for the toolbar!
sorry dont remember where i read your post, akshara:
something like:
flexible nonlinear - Undo History Tree/Branch, to undo only certain editings..
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/18 06:02:19
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can i split up the out signal of busses? -
example:
i want to assign the output of the
main out 1 bus -> headphones bus -> delta 1/2 -> headphones
AND
main out 1 bus -> main out 2 bus (eg. ultramizer) -> Delta 3/4 ->
if not, FR!
jeff
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sbavin
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/18 06:33:31
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ORIGINAL: planist
can i split up the out signal of busses? -
example:
i want to assign the output of the
main out 1 bus -> headphones bus -> delta 1/2 -> headphones
AND
main out 1 bus -> main out 2 bus (eg. ultramizer) -> Delta 3/4 ->
You can do this in SONAR 3 by putting a send on the bus - i.e. on "main out 1 bus" in your example.
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planist
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RE: Sonar 4: <span class="high">Future</span> Features
2004/06/18 06:38:45
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ok, is it exactly the same?
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