Rick, I'm genuinely impressed and pleased that you are mentally adept enough to adapt to working with a cock-eyed representation of the keyboard. I find it unnatural and unnecessary. Perhaps the solution would be the provision of a choice of views? Ideal!

Playing and viewing the keyboard is a left - right experience. Timing and transport is more easily viewed vertically than a keyboard is experienced sideways imho.

Moniker

hey man, I agree 100%

is it possible to quantize each slice within a grooveclip - like the way i can quantize when i have the clip split into different clips?

if not, that would be great to have:

drumclip
slicing the clip
quantizing within groove clip view..
ready to go

jeff

Possibility to LINK same clips AFTER they were unlinked..

--> Clip-Grouping

ORIGINAL: planist

Sani:

"Logic, Cubase, Protools allows you to slip, adjust the fade in, out, gain on multiple selected clips. When you have 6-7 drumtracks or backing vocals, you can very easy and fast do your edits. "

Used to do this all the time in logic and cubase - damn another feature i miss...

Kind regards

Dave Rich.

bump

please let me know if bumping this thread every now and then bothers you..

if yes, ill stop.

but i think its always good to have some kind of improvement list for any software you work with.
and everyone can contribute to it..

regards, jeff

i started changing the list.. when i have the time ill finish it..

thx for the advice,

jeff

rtgraham:

- Unlimited, name-able groups with a group view where you could manage group attributes for tracks, controls, etc.

- mfx FIX

In addition to, and in support/reiteration of the many good ideas already stated here, here's my wish list: (also submitted officially to Cakewalk)

Crop (and other edit types) multiple clips at once.

Mute Clips with one keystroke or right click option.

Ruler in measures mode - option to have markers in any subdivision.

Native metronome, with subbeat definable.

Ability to bring a clip to front or back when overlapping.

Zoom out to entire project horizontally, no matter how long.

Independently loopable clips or tracks with one or two clicks. No
ability to change tempo or pitch would still be ok. (This would be such a help in composition flow!)

A markers "playlist" to auditioning sections of a song in different orders.

Export each track to a seperate file, all at once. Would be great for transferring tracks to other hosts.

Midi out for vst/i plugins.

Mute/Solo groups - user made presets that mute/solo various combinations of tracks.

Track Manager option to copy layout from track view to console view, or vice versa (or a "synchronization" option, to have them both be affected when one changes).

Play half or quarter speed, as an alternative to scrub mode, to aurally find spots.

Track Folders/Groups, or at least a way to move a group of tracks vertically.

A mark next to group letters/colors when right clicking a control to show which are already assigned to something.

A beat detective-like function.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but...

I'd like to see a vastly improved method of creating a Tempo Map when the music is not in time with the project tempo. I find the Fit-To-Improvisation method unreliable, confusing and annoying.

I want to be able to click against any point in a wav OR midi track and tell it exactly what measure/beat/tick I want that point to represent. The tempo map should be able to add the appropriate tempo changes easily. And the more points I add in, the more accurate it becomes.

We could still make use of the 'tap in the tempo' idea, but enhance it such that it can be used as a starting place for getting all the 'hit points' described above. This should be easy to add and it wouold be SOOO useful. Imagine then, you coul play your song in freely, fit to improvisation easily, and then make use of all the loop files that match the project's beat/etc.

I'd like to see an option for selecting the type of graphical interface you'd like to use. (i.e. Sonar 4, Sonar 3, Old School, User defineable.) A great example of this is the flexibility of the windows environment. It would make everybody happy.

I'd also like to be able to select multiple tracks.

It would be great if they'd bundle Amplitube light from the guitar tracks program.

Better templates would be good.

Streamline the process for beat slicing a loop and getting it into Cyclone. It's too cumbersome.

A good and basic set virtual instruments similar to the garage band idea for basic music making. It could use the vsampler engine. Apple is on to something. This would be great for scetching quick song ideas.

last nite ive been recording a sonf with lots of tempo changes and volume envelopes.

especially with the envelopes, again:

--> Let me freely draw envelopes

--> instead of the tempo view there should be a special tempo track in the track view/ or bus view

Keep up the good work planist this thread makes for a great read.

Some more features (they may have already been mentioned)

1. Dedicated set of mastering plugs like those found in Digital performer or Ozone.

2. Time stretching quality to rival Ableton Live 4 or Samplitude.

3. 32 pads for the Cyclone DXI.

4. Wav preview and import for any wav file not just acid files from *within* Cyclone (without the need to use the loop explorer).

5. DS864 V.2 incuded in Sonar 4... Wav preview and larger piano roll view!

6. Studio verb3 (Studio verb2 in project 5 is very good).

7. Colour change option for console view.

8. More outs for the Edirol sound canvas and a complete overhaul of the GUI!

9. Over haul the piano roll! Kinetic and P5 level midi workflow (near gapless midi functionality) Maybe a P SEQ V. 2

Cheers planist keep it up. Hey you will get to do it all over again for Sonar 5!

ORIGINAL: planist

hi c,

hopefully in sonar 5 there are less things we will have to add..

one more thing. youve mentioned alot the cyclone, right?
i have never used it before.. and never wanted to understand whats it does. until now.
i probably will have a look at it in the next couple of days..

It is a very clever piece of software development. It really is to this day very unique. It has for me a major drawback though. It only works wth acidized files.

So I am about to acidize a whole lot of files and really put Cyclone through its paces! Even as a Live 3 user Cyclone is the only thing I know that lets you de- construct a wav file and rearrange peices of it in real time with other deconstructed loops.

Its like some kind of loop, beat slicer, mini sequencer that resides in Sonar.

Maybe Live can do this as well but not as a DXI in Sonar!

Before I forget...

Another feature...(possible duplication but oh well...)

1.PDC button that allows for possible gapless audio when not enabled and heavy duty mixing and mastering with plugs that require PDC when enabled.

Cheers planist.

I know this probably sounds trivial, but I love to input notes from the keyboard in FLStudio. I think that would be a great option in 4.0.
I own an Oxygen8, but since I'm a guitar player, I try to make my soft synth/MIDI work as painless as possible. I actually find I can play things on my pc keyboard that I can't on a standard midi controller/organ.