FastBikerBoy


On another note now I know the world has gone crazy.......... Johnbouy & John T agreeing on something...... 

John T


The article trimph1 linked to is a really good read, and makes an excellent point that kind of summarises this thread:

"Note also how convinced the antagonists are there's a problem and how clearly they can hear it. They are convinced because they did hear it, but what they heard was something from the above list."

The list it refers to is really comprehensive, and I'd be amazed if anyone found an anomaly it didn't have an explanation for.

Here's the link again:
http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHelp/html/app_audio.htm

kevo


Did you see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

kevo

brozobob


I blame this all on my newborn son....he occupied all of my time outside of work, so it took a few days to get those darn files posted.
 
I think John & Danny were the ones that, for the most part, stuck to refering back to my original problem.  I thank you for that.
 
In the end (although it actually looks like that we many not be done yet), I setup a dropbox account, learned how to post some public links to it, and made my presence known on the forum.  Maybe I'll be a one-hit wonder, maybe not.
 
BTW, nobody commented on how awful my playing was, so I thank you for that (ok, go ahead now :) )
 
This clown has found his circus on the forum!
 
-Bob
 
 

Hey Bob,
Since you live in Detroit wouldn't that mean every recording you do is MoTown regardless of which daw you use? 

Perhaps going to Livonia or Southfield would help...
 
EDIT:
Congrats on your son!  
 

John T


Ah, yeah, really interesting that. A better illustration of the unreliability of audio perception you could not find.

Rimshot


Hi Bob, you shouldn't blame anything on your newborn son.  Just sayin'

Rimshot

John T


The article trimph1 linked to is a really good read, and makes an excellent point that kind of summarises this thread:

"Note also how convinced the antagonists are there's a problem and how clearly they can hear it. They are convinced because they did hear it, but what they heard was something from the above list."

The list it refers to is really comprehensive, and I'd be amazed if anyone found an anomaly it didn't have an explanation for.

Here's the link again:
http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHelp/html/app_audio.htm

Jonbouy

kevo

Jonbouy

John T


Ah, yeah, really interesting that. A better illustration of the unreliability of audio perception you could not find.

Perhaps the reply to a forum post stating, "I hear what you are saying" is as good.

A popular one on this side of the pond is "I SEE what you're saying."

Another thing is that on this forum you often 'see' people complaining about the 'whiners'.

It's clear that a few more 'Winers' like Ethan would be a good thing, no?

Jind

Jonbouy


The inference I get is that when folk here don't like what's being said about their favourite DAW software they'd rather collude to make a bunch of noise to drown out that voice rather than listen to what is actually being said.

I think that's a bit unfair - the end result turned out being that it was not any inherent flaw in the audio engine, that regardless of DAW used, the sound was the same.  This thread went off topic the moment folks started responding with the premise that somehow certain DAW programs were better for certain types of recordings or had inherent "flavor". I suspect if that path was never taken and the original OP had posted audio files with his original post, this would be a much shorter (albeit less entertaining) thread. This was not Sonar fanboys protecting the almighty DAW, it was people saying it must be something other than the "flavor of a given DAW".  Ultimately those that ruled out the DAW being the culprit (aside from a valid complaint about the Interleave button no longer being visible) were correct - human error ruled the day (none of can say they have not made assumptions in the past or are error free 100 percent of the time - human error tends to be the most likely culprit in many cases).


Lessons learned:


If you have a problem with the "sound" of something it's always helpful to post samples of what you are hearing with the original problem report so others can use there ears to see if they hear the same thing. 


We have some very experienced folks with very good ears here. Great catch on the underlying issue.