SteveStrummerUK


 
Did I miss the group hug  

John T


Where did everybody go? Surely we can get this up to 20 pages. I'd like to pick up on brozobob's point: I think a lot of mix problems I have are the fault of his son. I'm wondering how widespread this is.

Lanceindastudio


Exactly what I was thinking 

Jind

Jonbouy


The inference I get is that when folk here don't like what's being said about their favourite DAW software they'd rather collude to make a bunch of noise to drown out that voice rather than listen to what is actually being said.

I think that's a bit unfair - the end result turned out being that it was not any inherent flaw in the audio engine, that regardless of DAW used, the sound was the same.  This thread went off topic the moment folks started responding with the premise that somehow certain DAW programs were better for certain types of recordings or had inherent "flavor". I suspect if that path was never taken and the original OP had posted audio files with his original post, this would be a much shorter (albeit less entertaining) thread. This was not Sonar fanboys protecting the almighty DAW, it was people saying it must be something other than the "flavor of a given DAW".  Ultimately those that ruled out the DAW being the culprit (aside from a valid complaint about the Interleave button no longer being visible) were correct - human error ruled the day (none of can say they have not made assumptions in the past or are error free 100 percent of the time - human error tends to be the most likely culprit in many cases).


Lessons learned:


If you have a problem with the "sound" of something it's always helpful to post samples of what you are hearing with the original problem report so others can use there ears to see if they hear the same thing. 


We have some very experienced folks with very good ears here. Great catch on the underlying issue.

SteveStrummerUK


 
 
I've certainly been keeping taabs on it
 
 

BenMMusTech


17 pages on the sound quality of Sonar, go learn how to mix and then debate the sound quality.

Apples and Oranges, if you know how to mix even audacity will sound great.

Sorry 5 in the morning here and still a little drunk, but come on guys there is little difference in DAW's it all about YOU and how you use your tools, hmm sounds vaguely sexual.

I suppose music makeing is a form of masturbation, so is talking on forums about the sound quality of DAW's.

Smiley Face Smiley Face and then some.

Peace Ben 

John T


Frankandfree is right, though, Reaper allowed 64 bit recording right from the off. Whether this means the whole signal path was 64 bit, I'm not sure.

John T


The face thingy is where the prizes are.

Jind

Jonbouy


Jind and Lance before you snowball into a whole defence force I was talking about this forum generally not the thread specifically.  If you check back you'll see it was a response to Karl's light-hearted general post. 

I note you bypassed the bit about the new Rewire too.

And there ya go as if to provide a perfect example of what I'm referring to. 

You really think I'm reinforcing your "defense force" claim by simply pointing out the OP's problem could have been resolved earlier by:


1. Instead of venturing into the "This DAW is better for Dance music, this one for Rock" conversation that ensued early on instead of troubleshooting with some sort of logical removal of variables most likely to result in differences in audio quality.


or


2. The lesson learned - include sample files of the audio when trying to determine if/and/why two different items sound different.


You truly think that's an example of Fanboism, a great Sonar Defense Force public relations statement?  
Truth be told, I have always been pretty clear that I could care less what any other person uses as a tool to make music as I too use many tools with the only bottom line being what works for me.  If anything I'm much more in the Craig Anderton school of thought of using the best tool for the task you are attempting to accomplish and that one size definitively does not fit all. 


My golden rule of product usage is the day I'm no longer happy with a product I use will be the day I stop using it, and that I could care less how anyone else creates music.


I'll continue to see happy users as nothing but happy users and people with problems as people with genuine problems they are trying to work through, it does not change whether they are on the Sonar Defense Force or the Moving on to Another Product team - use the tool that gets the work done for you is as simple a statement as there is.