LOSTinSWIRL
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 02:40:05
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I found out looking for Deals for Thanksgiving. There are probably more user out there that do not know.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 03:19:53
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I am one who just now found out!! And I found out while looking on a Presonus forum!
I have been using Cakewalk products since 6 months after it was released to DOS. I didn't receive an email notice or anything. The last I heard from Cakewalk was when they emailed me to get me to update my 12 month subscription with a special offer... IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER right before they shut 'er down. Coincidence?
I had held out with the unsettling feeling that maybe something was afoot, and did not trust my instincts to save that $200. End of an era for me. On to new frontiers.
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LOSTinSWIRL
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 03:36:10
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There was no email or anything just the posting in the forum. I just put in a request for the crossgrade to Studio One. I decided to do so after Sonar crashed again for no apparent reason during playback. It seems like I get at least one a day. It just could be my old computer though. Ya I paid for Lifetime updates back in June and for 168 and should have know that something was up after they went to 99. Well live and learn.
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daveny5
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 04:52:57
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A program that is no longer supported will surely have a limited shelf life. All it will take is a change in Windows, the C++ runtime library, or a driver and you could be out of business with no recourse. Sure, it may work for a year, and I'll continue to use it, but I don't want to wait until it's dead to make other plans.
By the way: here's some research:
Reaper: For non-professional use $60, Professional: $225
Steinberg Cubase: Elements $99, Artist $309.99, Professional $559.99
Avid Protools: $24.92 per month or $599 for the Perpetual version (sounds like "lifetime".... buyer beware)
Presonus Studio One 3: Artist $49, Professional $349, Crossgrade from Sonar X3 and newer $299.
Those are the only ones I've researched so far. Trying some demos to see which I like best.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 05:06:54
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Studio One 4 Professional, REAPER, CbB-(Couldnb't be Bothered)
More Plugs than Plumbers Warehouse.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 05:07:37
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 12:36:25
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Does Presonus Studio 1 support SYS EX ????
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 14:15:47
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scook
daveny5
By the way: here's some research:...
Consider checking out the special cross-grade prices for SONAR users http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3701893
The Samplitude deal is winding down today
Clicking on the link and then on UPDATE: the sale has been extended until Dec 20. Follow this link for the extended sale. Valid until December 26, 2017
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Brian Walton
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 16:23:07
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☄ Helpfulby Barak9 2017/12/30 07:51:13
daveny5
A program that is no longer supported will surely have a limited shelf life. All it will take is a change in Windows, the C++ runtime library, or a driver and you could be out of business with no recourse. Sure, it may work for a year, and I'll continue to use it, but I don't want to wait until it's dead to make other plans.
By the way: here's some research:
Reaper: For non-professional use $60, Professional: $225
Steinberg Cubase: Elements $99, Artist $309.99, Professional $559.99
Avid Protools: $24.92 per month or $599 for the Perpetual version (sounds like "lifetime".... buyer beware)
Presonus Studio One 3: Artist $49, Professional $349, Crossgrade from Sonar X3 and newer $299.
Those are the only ones I've researched so far. Trying some demos to see which I like best.
And at the same time there are literally people using a 10 year old version of Sonar on a modern machine without problems.
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batsbrew
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 16:39:45
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that'd be me.
built a DAW in 2008, put Win XP on it,
2 gig of ram,
it's basically the build in my sig.
have done 4 albums and 17 collabs on that rig.
it's still going strong.
secret?
it's not on the web.
ever.
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jjj.fcc
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 16:41:27
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It's not just be able to run a program. The problem is the lack of support, the lack of updates, incompatibilities with new hardware/software standards (MIDI implementation is about to change, I've heard somewhere).
You can probably use Sonar for a long, long time. But someday, even still working, it'll look old, dated, plugins that don't install or don't run 100%, new technology that don't fit...
I bought Sonar, because I was looking for a regularly updated good software. Without updates for a long period, even working, it will shrink, weakens...
It's sad, VERY sad (I was a 'Cakewalk for DOS' user), but if it is indeed dead, we have to move on.
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CoteRotie
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 17:37:18
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The way I see it, continuing to use SONAR is definitely a valid choice. It depends on what type of user you are:
Group 1
If you're happy with your system's performance now, and don't plan any significant upgrades, hardware, plug-in or otherwise, you should be fine. Image your system drive, back up everything, keep your machine off the internets and you can be happy for a long time.
Group 2
If you like occasional/frequent upgrades to your hardware (computing or audio interface, etc.) and trying new plugs or new features on existing plugs (Melodyne, Vocalign, etc.) you might be in trouble.
The problem for the second group of users is you don't know when SONAR will break, and you may have no warning at all. You can always go back to a previous drive image, but then that effectively puts you back in group 1.
Most of the Cakewalk developers are gone, the ones who agreed to stay through the shutdown are looking for work, and Gibson may go under at any time. So there may be no one to give you an activation code when/if the servers go down. There will certainly be no one to fix SONAR related problems with drivers/operating system upgrades. Something could break at any time or never.
I plan to keep SONAR on my system for a long time, but I don't plan to do any new projects with it. If it weren't so onerous to port projects from one DAW to another I would port everything and consider freeing up disk space by uninstalling SONAR, but I don't see a way of doing that efficiently.
Maybe another option is a dedicated SONAR DAW. Keep one older machine off the net with SONAR installed and have another machine for whatever other DAW you want to work with. Then you can be in both groups at the same time :)
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 17:46:18
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I was recording for many years with hardware as a hobbyist (audio and MIDI, beginning with a 8-track tape recorder). 7 years ago I began to try out some music software on a PC and 2014 I started with Sonar X3 Studio (upgraded later to Platinum Lifetime).
Some weeks ago I had purchased Samplitude Pro X3 Suite. A real good deal for 149 EUR, because it included SpectraLayers Pro and Sound Forge Pro. Actually I was more interested in the 2 latter ones, 'cos I thought I never would really work with Samplitude, I was convinced of Sonar.
Then I had read about the Cakewalk stuff on the Magix forum and I thought it was a joke! There was a link to the Cakewalk site and I was shocked it was true. Till today I feel deep frustration!
The only thing I am glad about is that I always backed up my tracks for any project as audio (also the one's produced with VSTi's), since I was used to from the old hardware times.
Instead of making music, I have spent now a lot of time in reading the Sonar Forum, checking which VST(i)s I still can use in another DAW (happy, most of them), reorganizing them and comparing other DAWs to Sonar. Yeah, you could also work with them and they have sometimes advantages, but many things are not so clear structured like in Sonar (e.g. Export Audio or the own plug-in layouts).
I think I will still do a lot of my music in Sonar, even when I inspect Samplitude Pro X more deeply now. It is a absolutely recommendable DAW (includes DDP export, very good guitar amplifiers, lot of usable instruments and FX). I have also a good impression of Reaper, but the others DAWs on the market do not convince me at all.
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Kamm Schreiner
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 18:17:10
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Matron Landslide
You can get the crossgrade to Studio One Pro for $149 until the end of the year.
Hmmm. A $1,397.95 program for $149.00??? Could this be another Cakewalk in the works? Just sayin'... Edit: Oops! I quoted the wrong email. This was supposed to be quoting the one about Samplitude. Sorry!
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Alkan
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 18:43:13
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Kamm Schreiner
Matron Landslide
You can get the crossgrade to Studio One Pro for $149 until the end of the year.
Hmmm. A $1,397.95 program for $149.00??? Could this be another Cakewalk in the works? Just sayin'...
But can Studio One import .bun or .cwp do you know? Apologies if anyone has already answered this - I couldn't find it on the previous 41 pages - but maybe I've got Gibson Complaint Fatigue Syndrome! I'm still using Sonar 8 Prof on an off-line XP machine and wondering what I am going to do when the hard disc crashes and I have to re-install it. Alternatively, if I move to another DAW like Studio One, does anyone know if I can import my midi and audio tracks with the clip envelopes in place?
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karhide
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 19:20:16
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Alkan
Kamm Schreiner
Matron Landslide
You can get the crossgrade to Studio One Pro for $149 until the end of the year.
Hmmm. A $1,397.95 program for $149.00??? Could this be another Cakewalk in the works? Just sayin'...
But can Studio One import .bun or .cwp do you know? Apologies if anyone has already answered this - I couldn't find it on the previous 41 pages - but maybe I've got Gibson Complaint Fatigue Syndrome!
I'm still using Sonar 8 Prof on an off-line XP machine and wondering what I am going to do when the hard disc crashes and I have to re-install it.
Alternatively, if I move to another DAW like Studio One, does anyone know if I can import my midi and audio tracks with the clip envelopes in place?
No Studio One cannot import .bun or .cwp because they are Cakewalk file formats. This might help: https://www.youtube.com/w...ue=4&v=88CpQFRCM9E
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Alkan
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/21 20:17:14
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karhide
Alkan
Kamm Schreiner
Matron Landslide
You can get the crossgrade to Studio One Pro for $149 until the end of the year.
Hmmm. A $1,397.95 program for $149.00??? Could this be another Cakewalk in the works? Just sayin'...
But can Studio One import .bun or .cwp do you know? Apologies if anyone has already answered this - I couldn't find it on the previous 41 pages - but maybe I've got Gibson Complaint Fatigue Syndrome!
I'm still using Sonar 8 Prof on an off-line XP machine and wondering what I am going to do when the hard disc crashes and I have to re-install it.
Alternatively, if I move to another DAW like Studio One, does anyone know if I can import my midi and audio tracks with the clip envelopes in place?
No Studio One cannot import .bun or .cwp because they are Cakewalk file formats.
This might help:
Thanks Karhide The problem is that, ideally, I don't want to import 'processed' audio and midi, I want some way of carrying the clip volume, PAN and Aux envelopes into the new DAW - but maybe there is no way of doing this I suppose I would have to take screenshots of the tracks, strip out the automation in Sonar, save the tracks as .MID and .WAV files and try and duplicate the automation in Studio One after I have imported the tracks. Seems a lot of work. Maybe I'll just hang on to Sonar 8 and hope nothing goes wrong! I wonder if Studio One works offline under XP?
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rharris99
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 03:36:14
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I am shocked. I have been with Cakewalk for over twenty years. 2.0 was my first version. I'm not sure what to think or do. Any thoughts out there on Cubase vs Studio One? I know both are offer special Sonar cross grade offers.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 03:45:40
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If it is an intensive program with midi and audio - I would go with Cubase. Probably a steep learning curve. But really so was Platinum - it is just that we got use it to incrementally.
Also Cubase can read OMF files. So I would save the Sonar files as OMFS right away, and then be able to load them into Cubase.
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scook
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 03:46:41
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rharris99
Any thoughts out there on Cubase vs Studio One? I know both are offer special Sonar cross grade offers.
See the software area in this forum. Post there for help on other DAWs.
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daveny5
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 03:53:53
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Tis the Season!!!
Since it is the giving season and apparently Cakewalk has no buyers for Sonar, how about Cakewalk/Gibson offering the Sonar product openly to any (somewhat qualified) company or buyer (Greg Hendershott or Craig Anderton are you listening ???) for FREE!!! This would get it off Gibson's books with maybe even a write-off and give THOUSANDS of Sonar users HOPE. Maybe even some of the old Sonar bakers would band together to take it on as a venture. I'd love to see them profit from their many years of hard work.
C'mon Cakewalk/Gibson. Time to think out of the box! This would be an unprecedented act of kindness and good will. DO IT!
Dave Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic. Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 05:36:50
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daveny5
Tis the Season!!!
Since it is the giving season and apparently Cakewalk has no buyers for Sonar, how about Cakewalk/Gibson offering the Sonar product openly to any (somewhat qualified) company or buyer (Greg Hendershott or Craig Anderton are you listening ???) for FREE!!! This would get it off Gibson's books with maybe even a write-off and give THOUSANDS of Sonar users HOPE. Maybe even some of the old Sonar bakers would band together to take it on as a venture. I'd love to see them profit from their many years of hard work.
C'mon Cakewalk/Gibson. Time to think out of the box! This would be an unprecedented act of kindness and good will. DO IT!
To the list of goodwill + cash I would add Chuck Surack of Sweetwater Sound. You listening, Chuck?
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sdpate67
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 12:27:11
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Long and McQuade may sell Sonar but they recommend Cubase at the non-pro level and ProTools for a pro DAW
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sdpate67
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 12:45:46
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It's to bad for us and too bad for the employees but the handwriting was on the wall. The consolidation of the industry around ProTools was the big one. There is only 1 winner in software, the 800 lb gorilla. It was written in the IT bible "Crossing the Chasm" decades ago. Desktops - Windows, Mobile - Apple, free mobile Android, Photoshop, and on and on.
The 800-lb gorilla has market saturation and the revenue to upgrade code cycle after cycle and the revenue to out market competition. Companies like a standard for training and support costs. You can find a ProTools expert in minutes.
There are small fish who compete, usually nimble new companies or the walking dead old timers who won't quit the battlefield. A good example is Google for search and browser beating everyone - Yahoo, Bing, IE.
The beginning of the end was X1. Sonar stumbled badly with X1 which was released in beta. Companies who needed DAW production software didn't wait for the fixes. They moved on as quickly as possible. We stayed because we're stubborn and for other reasons.
It's easier and costs less to be an upstart software developer than to be a veteran with 20 years of code to support. The cost of keeping Sonar alive has to be huge. Cubase is in the same boat but they are backed by a committed owner.
If Sonar was break even, maybe someone like Steinberg/Pioneer will keep it going. As others have said, Gibson's Moody's credit rating is near default. When companies are in trouble, they do desperate things. Any business unit that doesn't create positive cash flow is cut, which is probably why Sonar is closing.
It will be interesting to see if the code lasts. I hope so.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 15:18:38
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sdpate67
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The 800-lb gorilla has market saturation and the revenue to upgrade code cycle after cycle and the revenue to out market competition. Companies like a standard for training and support costs. You can find a ProTools expert in minutes.
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The beginning of the end was X1. Sonar stumbled badly with X1 which was released in beta. Companies who needed DAW production software didn't wait for the fixes. They moved on as quickly as possible. We stayed because we're stubborn and for other reasons.
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Education is a trick that Cakewalk seemed to have missed. The Cubase equivalent of "Sonar Power" is based on a UK A Level Music Tech resource. Logic is also a common choice in this sector. If you watch many of the Cubase videos on YouTube a theme emerges with the younger users, "I used Cubase in College...". There is no doubt that X1 was part of the problem BUT it was also part of the solution. When it was released I stuck with 8.0 but my son preferred X1 and eventually persuaded me make the switch too. It was one of those painful transitions that every software user hates and tends to define/split the user base. There seems to be a lot of 8.5 users here and technically their issue is not running unsupported software, as they have been doing that for years, its that a compatible upgrade is no longer available if their version fail. This may be semantics but the reality is for some users there is a new risk while for others this is about a change to the way they manage risk. What has happened to Cakewalk is a real shame especially for the employees.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 16:12:22
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Like most of the Cakewalk users......I am extremely disappointed in the move to abandon us. I've been using Cakewalk since the original "Cakewalk". I really never had an interest in any other DAW. Cakewalk served my needs!
When the offer for "Lifetime" upgrades came...I was very suspicious. Like some of you I tried not to give in to the yearly (usually around dec) upgrade offers.
I decided to give in to the "Lifetime" offer early last year. I am not disappointed about the purchase..yet.
However...I do align with Cactus Music about continued use.
In my opinion You are safer (for now) to stick with Win 7. I always download my upgrades and fixes from my laptop. I test them on the laptop (a cheap refurbished Dell D630) to see what happens. If all is well I copy the upgrade and run it on my main computer (Dell T7400 Workstation) by the way...I do not tie this unit to the internet). I do realize that Win 7 will go away and support with it. Unless I am lacking education in the area....as long as I stay away from the internet and any upgrades from Win 7 and what ever comes across the dark web...I should be good for awhile. (Please correct me if I am wrong)!!!!!
This forum is great for all Cakewalk users...especially those of us determined to stay the course until something more viable and 100% compatible comes along! Of course you'll probably need to mortgage your home and not eat to afford it!!!!!!!
I can't remember where I saw the post but someone was interested in purchasing Platinum online. I saw this today...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 16:15:24
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Sorry the link did not show up in my original post
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 17:10:41
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I think you will see the product resurrected, but my guess is they needed "Cakewalk the company" to die first. No one would buy a company that had free lifetime updates committed to people - that's an obligation in place of a revenue stream.
My prediction is they kill the company and it's obligations/baggage, then sell the product in an asset sale to someone else.
I run a decent-sized software company - I always had this little fantasy of running Cakewalk once I sold mine; I thought that would be fun! :)
My best to the devs...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 17:16:46
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☄ Helpfulby AlanPerkins 2017/12/22 20:18:23
I have been reading this forum for a considerable time and like some of you I was also surprised by the news. I was a 2.0 version user when very few of the computer media understood MIDI and sequencers (or what they were for) and gradually I went to Bars and Pipes (for me, the best MIDI-only sequencer that has ever existed.) Came back to Cakewalk when he released his version 6 of Sonar and I have stayed there until now. It does not make sense to delve into the reasons for a decision that is clearly lapidary for both Cakewalk and Gibson. Lately, Gibson was known more for his involvement with Cakewalk than for anything else. What we must do is accept that reality and ask Cakewalk and / or Gibson to at least have the decency and consideration (they owe it to us) to clarify several points that are listed below in order of importance: - How we do to download all our products (either by Command Center or directly from the site) and activate them offline.
- How long will the servers be working online to perform the previous operation (taking into account that the demand will be huge and the time span must be broad enough for us to download all the software.
- How can we continue to use the plugins of other companies (Overloud, XLN, Melodyne, TruePianos, etc.) within Sonar.
- What will happen with the partial payments and under what conditions the refunds operate?
- Optionally, what is the future of Cakewalk, because for Gibson's I see it very clearly ...
And for us, users, only have to take one of two paths - If the time you have invested in mastering the tool has been such that your productivity is second to none. If you have come to realize you need another 2 DAWs to do what you do with Sonar. If your workflow is very attached to Sonar and you know every trick and skill of the program and all or most of its keyboard shortcuts, then by all means you must build for yourself a Sonar-Hardware DAW. Have a computer (preferably desktop) with the latest hardware, install all Cakewalk packages (32 and 64 bits) that you bought (whether you think you need it or not) of the version you will use, update the drivers to the latest possible functional version, install all the plugins you work with most of the time and the additional utilities you use to complete your workstation and test the system. If it supports all the tests without a glimse of error, if you feel is running smoothly and the latency is good enough, it is time to disconnect it from the Internet and forget about the windows updates for life. Also, if you want, you can uninstall the antivurus completely.
Think on this machine as if it were your venerable Moog or your Korg M1 or your Motif or your DX7 but on steroids. Of course, with time it will show its age but it will be a machine that will not give you any problems for many years and will be as reliable as a solid rock where you can realize your most ambitious projects.
I speak from experience. I have a computer with XP service pack 3. Is it already old?, yes. Is part of the software accusing its age?, you bet. Is still working as it did 12 years ago, of course. Is reliable as a rock, without a doubt. - If on the contrary, you are at the crossroads of deciding whether to change DAW or continue with Sonar, I suggest you change. Forget what Sonar was for you and use your time you will be mourning the Sonar's fate, learning a new program or programs and using the plugins with the hardware you have. I think the combination Ableton Live and Studio One 3 or Ableton Live and Samplitude X3 suite can be the best options when replacing Sonar.
It will undoubtedly be a difficult decision and I am sorry for all the developers who dedicated their lives and time to making this application one, if not the best, of its kind. The specialization that is required to make the software talk to the hardware through an operating system that is constantly evolving, is not easy task and yet I believe that the Cakewalk team managed to tame a beast as fickle as Windows is. My 2 cents.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/12/22 17:17:03
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I think you will see the product resurrected, but my guess is they needed "Cakewalk the company" to die first. No one would buy a company that had free lifetime updates committed to people - that's an obligation in place of a revenue stream.
My prediction is they kill the company and it's obligations/baggage, then sell the product in an asset sale to someone else.
I run a decent-sized software company - I always had this little fantasy of running Cakewalk once I sold mine; I thought that would be fun! :)
My best to the devs...
If this is the case, which I hope will be, what do you think the timeline would be that the new company would take it over? And I ask this next question only because it's not my area of expertise, but since you mentioned you run a software company, do you think the core of how we use Sonar now would exist or do you think it would be torn down and rebuilt into something different with a new interface?
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