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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 14:58:43
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 14:59:21
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Well it is a forum run by Cakewalk so if they saw it as advertising for PT they do have the option to get rid of the thread.
As for me: Sonar is my DAW. I am absolutely amazed at how powerful it is...the bang for the buck ratio is insane. And if I had any talent I would be able to get fabulous sounding recordings on it...as it is they sound okay. But they keep getting better.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:03:33
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So it's settled then?
This fred is over?
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:06:07
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I hope so, I view it as target marketing.
Ya let's put a Pro Tools infomercial on Sonar's website.
Sleazy, sleazy, sleazy.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:11:27
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djwayne
Well how would you feel if you just bought a new Chevy and your neighbor starts telling you how wonderful his new Toyota is ?? It's the same thing, I just spent a lot of money on Cakewalk's Sonar, and don't want to hear about Pro Tools. I tried out Pro Tools and it kept crashing on me. I think it sucks. But I have to listen to this crap about it being the industry standard. I DON"T WANT TO HEAR IT !!!!!
Chevy's & Ford's share the same road. DAWS share the same industry. If you don't want to hear it simply don't participate in this thread.
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:20:13
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Congradulations !! You've just been suckered into reading the Pro Tools infomercial.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:30:58
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Several years ago there was a very well done thread that demonstrated that all non-linear EQ plugs were identical. Don't flame me about it's method or results - but they were well documented and resulted in putting to rest a lot of speculation on the subject. DomM ..i dont have the techneological education or any scientific proof to go out on a limb for either or... so studies, charts, and test, mean nothing to me, if its not on my setup. but common-sence tells me ..."how audio is handled, and how a plug responds in a program can vary, from user to user". i have been a UAD user for many years.. and the difference between the 1176 and bombfactory's 1176 is dramatic. so it is more to the code and algorithms than just cosmetics..
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 15:55:27
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djwayne
Congradulations !! You've just been suckered into reading the Pro Tools infomercial.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:05:29
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So to rap it up!
If you want the second best or shall we say the oldest outdated piece of software on this planet; GO FOR PRO TOOLS!
VS
If you want the best!! use something else like SONAR X1 x64 or what ever. any DAW are better then Pro Tools...
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Middleman
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:09:56
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Sleezy sales techniques??
People want to know that the differences in the Sonar and PT are and there was some good dialogue happening until the 3 year old who doesn't want to hear that there is no Santa Claus comes along and starts bullying the playground.
Can you go away now and let the adults continue the conversation? You are not representing North East Ohio very well.
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:12:12
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So now you're resorting to persoanl attacks ?? GFY.
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Middleman
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:13:02
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You are the one creating the scenario here.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:14:41
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You really need to work on that temper of yours, Wayne. I was trying to forget your completely over the top flip out in the GR5 thread but this is ridiculous. Good bye.
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:16:36
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BYE !! You got creamed with that thread too. Want a tell me again how I can buy GR5 for $79 bucks ??
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:19:49
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soens
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:20:16
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post edited by soens - 2012/07/27 01:21:37
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:21:33
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:22:34
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Guitar Rig for only $79 !! Just ask beepster !! He'll be happy to give mis-information !!
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 16:30:15
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That's right folks. I'm only here to spread lies. It makes me feel like a big man.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 18:26:19
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hey everyone makes mistakes,no one is perfect.
im sure he wasnt intentionly trying to throw the whole forum for a dive.
this thread is turning into a skelleton in the closet and surely to be shut down by the mods very soon.
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 18:29:03
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chuckebaby
hey everyone makes mistakes,no one is perfect.
im sure he wasnt intentionly trying to throw the whole forum for a dive.
this thread is turning into a skelleton in the closet and surely to be shut down by the mods very soon.
Good, it's just an infomercial disguised as free speech.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 19:33:15
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i can see everyones points here i really can.
funny how these things happen its usualy just a comment or two that throws the whole thread in the toilet(not pointing fingers)
its also none of my business.
but i happen to think your a good guy dj.
i also think beepster is too.
carry on as you wish.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 19:39:36
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Quit trying to sell me that camera in your avatar djwayne.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 20:14:31
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i'll be back im going to North East Ohio, to go get some of whatever djwayne is on. and then im going go out to tell grown ass men to discuss what i want them to discuss. and if they dont they can take there discussion and SHOVE IT!! and i mean SHOVE IT!! LMAO..
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 20:23:43
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post edited by soens - 2012/07/07 22:54:53
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 20:39:03
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What a bunch of traitors !! Just keep kissing up to the Pro Tool salesmen on the Sonar forum, and maybe you too will get banned !!!!
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 21:04:55
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Seriously, Cakewalk busts their buns off developing great software for you guys at a reasonable price, and how do you thank them ?? You suck up to the Pro Tools fanboys ?? Go on beat it if that's how you feel.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 21:14:04
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Well, I'm only on page four of this "controversial-done to death- DAW comparison" thread. I haven't even looked at PT10. But it seems the details are missing in this and most similar threads. And those details are the high end, high dollar hardware that you can get for pro tools apps. I doubt it's PT 10 that runs on the stuff and I'm sure it's engineered right on the installation spot so to speak. But the rating of pro tools as the industry standard does not even touch the off the shelf applications we're talking about here.
Sonar and Cakewalk started to introduce dedicated hardware at the consumer level that was a level above many and the competitors jumped right on the band wagon, including PT. The war is on, on that level.
But comparing any of it to a custom build studio console with software engineered to fit it and all its peripherals, is just plain BS.
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 21:22:45
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Crg
Well, I'm only on page four of this "controversial-done to death- DAW comparison" thread. I haven't even looked at PT10. But it seems the details are missing in this and most similar threads. And those details are the high end, high dollar hardware that you can get for pro tools apps. I doubt it's PT 10 that runs on the stuff and I'm sure it's engineered right on the installation spot so to speak. But the rating of pro tools as the industry standard does not even touch the off the shelf applications we're talking about here.
Sonar and Cakewalk started to introduce dedicated hardware at the consumer level that was a level above many and the competitors jumped right on the band wagon, including PT. The war is on, on that level.
But comparing any of it to a custom build studio console with software engineered to fit it and all its peripherals, is just plain BS.
And that, my friends, is the whole point. Commercial studios need that kind of hardware and NO ONE else has it. Also the software is behind the curve in many ways but for tracking audio it is great. Add that to the integrated, robust and mature control surfaces and there is simply no competition. I think Pro Tools software may be a bad choice for many project and home studios but for commercial studies it is usually the best choice.
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Middleman
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Re:Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1
2012/07/07 22:07:27
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I think Pro Tools software may be a bad choice for many project and home studios but for commercial studies it is usually the best choice.
I agree here. Things are changing right now and the Avid world is in limbo waiting for V11, not the best of times to go down this path. Basically TDM, Digi hardware and RTAS are going bye bye. They started down the path of open third party options but it's not clear whether that will remain. HD Native, unless you really need disk cache or 5.1 and/or if you want to use Avid hardware which is very expensive, really offers nothing huge over PT10 on an i7 platform & decent ASIO converters. If they go to x64 later this year, I can't even see the need for HD. HDX will continue to attract the high end people but a decent i7 offers all the power you need for homerecording to well beyond 100 tracks plus a heavy load of plug ins. Their future is a bit undefined at this point and now the announcement that they are shedding MAudio and AIR, well, I think the home recording type might want to look elsewhere until their future is clearer.
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